What makes Ezekiel Elliott Special?

Toruk_Makto

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He has been held out of two preseason games, where most starters only would play a few snaps... He isn't even actually injured, he was just being held out for precautionary reasons. If it were week 1 right now, he would have been good to go.
When Dez Bryant and Tony Romo are getting snaps and you are not.... You're behind the eight ball.
 

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I contend this offensive line would open the holes they do and Julius Jones would still find a way to run into the back of one of the guards for a half a yard loss.
Do you believe Parcells ruined JuJo?
 

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He has not run one play, even in the pre-season. So how do you know all this???

I've seen his college play and he was promoted on the depth chart for a reason. You act like preseason is the end all. As if there was no training camp.
 

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Babe Laufenberg had that stat the other night that the last 5 running backs drafted in the top 5 have made a grand total of ONE Pro Bowl..just sayin.

(I may be wrong on the total number of rb.s)
 

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Didn't love drafting an RB then and I certainly don't love it now. Help was needed on the defensive side of the ball, not the most crowded position on our team.

Now we have to deal with a weak pass rush, slow Church, inconsistent Carr, and unimpressive Jones (Seriously, I'm disliking this kid more and more each play I see him in)
 

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Why did we draft a running back 4th overall? Especially when we already had Alfred Morris who I mentioned in a previous post is probably still a top 15 running back in the league, probably jumps up to top 10 behind this line.

Well, there are a few things that make Elliott special. I think he would be a successful running back on any team in the league. On the Giants, he is still a home run, but for the Cowboys he is a grand slam..


Have you seen the Giants play this preseason? He would be more like a ground out for them. Their run blocking sucks real bad. I don't think even AP can run ok behind their line.
 

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Do you believe Parcells ruined JuJo?

Not certain.

I believe he became ridiculously indecisive, which caused him to hesitate and end up running into the linemen.

Was this Parcells' famous ridicule, and perhaps his flagging self esteem? I have no clue.
 

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The thing with vision is you have it or don't. Vision is vision at any level of football from pee wee to nfl. It's not like other positions although the speed is faster which Zeke is plenty fast. He needs some playing time in preseason but we have a ton of backs and can rotate all game and the 5 we have all being something different that defenses will have a hard time.
 

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Not certain.

I believe he became ridiculously indecisive, which caused him to hesitate and end up running into the linemen.

Was this Parcells' famous ridicule, and perhaps his flagging self esteem? I have no clue.
I think it depends on the perception of Parcells. If you love him, then you probably think Julius couldn't handle the master motivator. I think Parcells was great, but stubborn and didn't always adapt.
 

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Babe Laufenberg had that stat the other night that the last 5 running backs drafted in the top 5 have made a grand total of ONE Pro Bowl..just sayin.

(I may be wrong on the total number of rb.s)
Look at the teams they were on......Richardson with the Browns haha really
 

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Didn't love drafting an RB then and I certainly don't love it now. Help was needed on the defensive side of the ball, not the most crowded position on our team.

Now we have to deal with a weak pass rush, slow Church, inconsistent Carr, and unimpressive Jones (Seriously, I'm disliking this kid more and more each play I see him in)

Just for future reference, a pinch of salt goes a long way on a plate of crow ;)
 

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Babe Laufenberg had that stat the other night that the last 5 running backs drafted in the top 5 have made a grand total of ONE Pro Bowl..just sayin.

(I may be wrong on the total number of rb.s)

Also how often does a rb taken top 5 end up on a team this good? I would bet never. We were not a prototypical 4-12 team. And none taken behind the best offensive line in football either
 

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When Dez Bryant and Tony Romo are getting snaps and you are not.... You're behind the eight ball.

Neither position would take a beating as much as a running back would. Wasting Elliotts carries in pre-season, especially if he has a hamstring issue just doesn't make sense. He's a running back, it is the easiest position to jump from college to the pros. He doesn't need a lot of time and missing a two weeks of camp and a couple preseason games where he wouldn't have gotten many carries won't do much to set him back.

He was already named the starter. He has shown the coaches enough.
 

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Also how often does a rb taken top 5 end up on a team this good? I would bet never. We were not a prototypical 4-12 team. And none taken behind the best offensive line in football either

Amazing point. It's like QBs who go to really good teams because they drop in the draft like Rodgers. Or a player like Dez who dropped to us in the 20s. To be able to join a top talented RB with one of if not the best offensive lines in football is tremendous. There are few teams that are going to be capable of keeping up with us in rushing. Maybe the Titans and the Steelers for example.
 

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Look at the teams they were on......Richardson with the Browns haha really
Oh, I agree...but there's no argument that he wasn't a bust. He sucked with the colts as well. Can't imagine a better line would have turned Trent Richardson into a perennial pro bowler
 

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Babe Laufenberg had that stat the other night that the last 5 running backs drafted in the top 5 have made a grand total of ONE Pro Bowl..just sayin.

(I may be wrong on the total number of rb.s)

This is terribly misleading as well. How many RBs make the pro bowl in a year? 6 in the entire league? I can just easily tell you that four of the six pro bowl running backs last year were 1st round draft picks.
 

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Amazing point. It's like QBs who go to really good teams because they drop in the draft like Rodgers. Or a player like Dez who dropped to us in the 20s. To be able to join a top talented RB with one of if not the best offensive lines in football is tremendous. There are few teams that are going to be capable of keeping up with us in rushing. Maybe the Titans and the Steelers for example.

The titans I could see. Pittsburgh passes too much. Even with leveon they still have been an top 3 passing plays called team for the last 4 seasons
 

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Oh, I agree...but there's no argument that he wasn't a bust. He sucked with the colts as well. Can't imagine a better line would have turned Trent Richardson into a perennial pro bowler
Colts aren't that good either, I agree with you that Richardson wasn't that good but I feel he would have done better if he was drafted to a better team.

Zeke has no excuses here in Dallas. Top QB, WR, TE and OL so we will see
 

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Babe Laufenberg had that stat the other night that the last 5 running backs drafted in the top 5 have made a grand total of ONE Pro Bowl..just sayin.

(I may be wrong on the total number of rb.s)

Let's look at those backs: Richardson, DMac, Bush, RBrown, CBenson. Don't know why they don't add Cadillac Williams to make their point better but anyway.

I believe the hardest thing about a running back to project to the NFL is a power back, and to be successful a power back better be very very fast. Against grown men who they can't overpower, what else can they do. Trent and Benson had problems with this situation. As a college runner, DMac depended on power and speed, but very lil agility, and it showed (Fournette has a lil DMac in him so that should be interesting to see in the future). Ronnie was always so so to me with this abilities and Bush was probably the most overly hyped RB in the last 10 years coming out of college cause he was never an every down back.

The reason for these backs failures have nothing to do with Zeke cause he is totally different than any of them. His quickness and agility are on a whole nother level than any of those guys except Bush (who goes down with a stiff breeze). Zeke has a package that none of these guys have, so he really shouldn't be in the same thought with them.

I'm glad Morris is getting his time to shine and make a case, but during camp he was talking about regrets and such with Zeke on the field. I figure when Zeke hits the field again, those regrets will be running through Morris' mind once again, just like they did a while back. Morris saw in camp what Zeke is which is probably why he thought the way he did at that time, and hopefully we will see it very soon.
 
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