What player has been replaced during the season?

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Someone brought up a good point. When was the last time a player was replaced as a starter during the season, due to poor performance rather than injury.

Only ones that come to mind are Nick Folk and I guess Patrick Crayton.
 
I'm refering more to the Wade Phillips Regime, I should have been more specific...
 
not many. Wade Phillips is too loyal of a coach. doesn't like to play rookies and doesn't like to replace people due to poor performance. Nick Folk getting cut was long overdue by the time it happened.
 
and I like that about Wade--Parcells is also loyal, like wasting a high draft pick on the son of a former player
 
Galian Beast;3318368 said:
Someone brought up a good point. When was the last time a player was replaced as a starter during the season, due to poor performance rather than injury.

Only ones that come to mind are Nick Folk and I guess Patrick Crayton.

Crayton wasn't replaced because of "poor" performance but rather because Austin lit it up for 250 yards.
 
I have to agree with Rampage, even I was saying Nick Folk should have been dropped and I was one of his biggest supporters.

The entire idea that we can keep our offensive line the way it is, is horrible. They're a great run blocking line (even though they are inconsistent), but they are horrible at pass blocking. They're way too slow. And that is why we are the most blitzed team in the nfl.

The fact that Romo is great against the blitz evolved into us getting beaten by the Vikings. They were able to get quick pressure on Romo in a base 4 set without even having to blitz.

That game alone should have told us that we need new tackles at the very least.

Marc Colombo was a turn table

But other than LD none of them linemen really played all that well.

Believe it or not Doug Free was actually an improvement over Flozell.

I don't know why people think Kyle Kosier is irreplaceable. Can we do worse? Sure, but we can certainly do better.

Ken Hamlin is also a complete joke.

Felix Jones not starting is also a mystery.
 
Galian Beast;3318400 said:
I have to agree with Rampage, even I was saying Nick Folk should have been dropped and I was one of his biggest supporters.

The entire idea that we can keep our offensive line the way it is, is horrible. They're a great run blocking line (even though they are inconsistent), but they are horrible at pass blocking. They're way too slow. And that is why we are the most blitzed team in the nfl.

The fact that Romo is great against the blitz evolved into us getting beaten by the Vikings. They were able to get quick pressure on Romo in a base 4 set without even having to blitz.

I don't think it's the fact that they're horrible at pass blocking. Our run blocking suffered down the stretch too. Remember how dominant they were at the beginning of the season?

I believe it's the fact that they're simply older and larger than average, so they wear down during the course of the season.

Galian Beast;3318400 said:
That game alone should have told us that we need new tackles at the very least.

Marc Colombo was a turn table

He was a turn table because he wasn't at 100%. He rushed coming back from his broken leg. A completely healthy Colombo would have been fine. Don't mistake his being injured for him being a bad player.

Remember the turn table we had at RT before we got him? Yeah. Since he's taken over it hasn't been a problem, except for his injury last year.

Galian Beast;3318400 said:
But other than LD none of them linemen really played all that well.

Believe it or not Doug Free was actually an improvement over Flozell.

Gurode and Kosier had a decent game. They were getting pressure around the edges, not the middle.

And Doug Free wasn't really an improvement. Flo was handling Jared Allen until he went out. Allen didn't make an impact until Free came in. That's not an indictment on Free, because I think he would make a good LT if given the practice and preparation time. But we did need to push protection to his side after he came in.

I'd call it a push between the two for that game.

Galian Beast;3318400 said:
I don't know why people think Kyle Kosier is irreplaceable. Can we do worse? Sure, but we can certainly do better.

Do you not remember 2008 when we didn't have him? How quickly people forget.

Galian Beast;3318400 said:
Ken Hamlin is also a complete joke.

Agreed. Although our defense became outright dominant when he came back from injury. I don't know if it's a coincidence or if he had something to do with it.

Galian Beast;3318400 said:
Felix Jones not starting is also a mystery.

Perhaps. I think Choice would be a better starter. Let's see what happens when Felix gets 20 carries a game instead of 10 and defenses start gameplanning for him as a starter. Maybe it would be something like what happened with Barber after he took over as the starter? I seem to remember everyone screaming for him to start over Julius. Look what happened when he started taking over a larger load.

Galian Beast;3318401 said:
Punt Returner

You mean the guy that ended up second in the NFL in punt returns last year? Yeah, they really needed to replace him.
 
Galian Beast;3318401 said:
Punt Returner

He wasn't benched as the punt returner. :rolleyes: He had some nice returns last season 2 went for TD's including an 82 yarder.
 
KJJ;3318420 said:
He wasn't benched as the punt returner. :rolleyes: He had some nice returns last season 2 went for TD's including an 82 yarder.
He was benched. We signed Allen Rossum, who promptly got injured and Crayton was given the job back and then he had some success. But he absolutely was benched as the Punt Returner.
 
Hostile;3318429 said:
He was benched. We signed Allen Rossum, who promptly got injured and Crayton was given the job back and then he had some success. But he absolutely was benched as the Punt Returner.

Rossum got hurt and never returned one single punt last season so that doesn't count.
 
Hostile;3318439 said:
:laugh2:

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Now I got you doing the emoticons. You shouldn't stoop to my level. :p: Rossum was brought in to replace Crayton and it wasn't necessarily because of poor performance the Cowboys just felt Rossum was better. The fact is he never officially set up to return a punt so if you want to count Crayton as being benched as the punt returner even though he returned punts the entire season that's your opinion. Rossum handled the ball once on a KO return and that was it.
 
KJJ;3318453 said:
Now I got you doing the emoticons. You shouldn't stoop to my level. :p: Rossum was brought in to replace Crayton and it wasn't necessarily because of poor performance the Cowboys just felt Rossum was better. The fact is he never officially set up to return a punt so if you want to count Crayton as being benched as the punt returner even though he returned punts the entire season that's your opinion. Rossum handled the ball once on a KO return and that was it.
Read your own logic and learn something. That is exactly what others said that you deny. Had Rossum not got hurt does Crayton keep on returning punts?
 
KJJ;3318438 said:
Rossum got hurt and never returned one single punt last season so that doesn't count.

So why did we sign Rossum?
 
AbeBeta;3318456 said:
So why did we sign Rossum?

He was signed as a punt returner but he never even set up to return a punt because he got hurt on a kickoff. To making a benching "official" you would think a player would have to sit out at least one play in favor of another player.
 
KJJ;3318453 said:
Now I got you doing the emoticons. You shouldn't stoop to my level. :p: Rossum was brought in to replace Crayton and it wasn't necessarily because of poor performance the Cowboys just felt Rossum was better. The fact is he never officially set up to return a punt so if you want to count Crayton as being benched as the punt returner even though he returned punts the entire season that's your opinion. Rossum handled the ball once on a KO return and that was it.
Bringing Rossum in to replace Crayton is the very definition of what this discussion is about.

You can word it as either "poor performance by the current player" or "expected better performance by the player replacing him"....it is the same thing. Decisions based on benching someone due to relative performance vs the replacement.
 
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