jcollins28;3517330 said:Only two things motivate people. Fear and Greed.
Faerluna;3517361 said:I'm playing the bs card on this. There are plenty of things that motivate me, neither of which are fear or greed.
jcollins28;3517401 said:I'm calling the bs card on this one.
Kangaroo;3517499 said:Then you be wrong fear and greed do not motivate everyone it does some people.
I went to college not out of fear or greed I went because I wanted to go and do something. I enlisted in the Army at the age of 17 on my own no pressure it is not like greed was there I made some money and it helped with college but it was greed as to why I enlisted.
Teren_Kanan;3517516 said:Well, without getting into the technical aspects off it, he used the word greed but it's not truly what he meant. Self desire, self gain. He didn't mean greed in the monetary sense.
Both of those things, were done out of self desire. Everything we do is based on that or fear. It's quite literally impossible not to. You can donate your entire life savings to a random poor person, it's still, at the core, motivated by one of those evolutionary motivators.
theogt;3517293 said:Cash is just the means to an end -- happiness.
jcollins28;3517401 said:I'm calling the bs card on this one.
Faerluna;3519224 said:I rescue animals. You cannot tell me that my desire to help them is motivated in any way by fear or greed.
When I buy food for friends' pets/rescues when they are having trouble making ends meet, it's not motivated by fear or greed.
When I give my neighbor a ride to work instead of letting her walk the whole way...well, you get the idea.
Sometimes people do things to be kind and generous, expecting and receiving nothing in compensation.
Seven;3519230 said:No Way!!!
Faerluna;3519240 said:Shocking, isn't it?
Luckily for you there are ways to achieve happiness without it, as well.Seven;3519202 said:
That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard...........a thousand times. Sad really.
theogt;3519296 said:Luckily for you there are ways to achieve happiness without it, as well.
You may have missed it -- that wouldn't be surprising in the least -- but my point was that no one wants cash just for the sake of having cash. They want it because of what it will get you. It will get you tickets to a Cowboys game, a nice TV, a car, a boat, a dinner and a movie, a vacation, whatever. These things are fun and will bring many people happiness. Cash itself does not bring happiness. And if you read my post, you'll see that I say -- and I quote -- "It's not the only means to that end." There are other ways to achieve happiness, but those are much more difficult for your EMPLOYER to bestow.Seven;3519310 said:Tru enough, Theo. To each his own.
theogt;3519346 said:You may have missed it -- that wouldn't be surprising in the least -- but my point was that no one wants cash just for the sake of having cash. They want it because of what it will get you. It will get you tickets to a Cowboys game, a nice TV, a car, a boat, a dinner and a movie, a vacation, whatever. These things are fun and will bring many people happiness. Cash itself does not bring happiness. And if you read my post, you'll see that I say -- and I quote -- "It's not the only means to that end." There are other ways to achieve happiness, but those are much more difficult for your EMPLOYER to bestow.
Of course, like I said, it wouldn't be at all surprising if you completely missed that point when you [didn't] read my post.
No, you didn't read it. And it's very clear that that is the case. Here's why -- when I replied to your post that it wasn't the only means to happiness, you acquiesced. But I was merely repeating a statement that I had already made in the post, directly after the statement you quoted.Seven;3519486 said:I read it. You, not suprisingly, thought you'd set me up for one of your trivial, pointless, well spun rebuttals chock full of the world according to Theo.
I commented on the statement. Nothing more, nothing less. I could care less what context you put it in or what other literary devices surrounded it. I find that you take offense and crouch into the defensive mode quite easily, theo. I love how fragile you really are. It makes things clearer and quite frankly, humorous.
Lighten up dude. The world isn't out to get you nor is it as complex as you try and pretend to make it.
theogt;3520183 said:No, you didn't read it. And it's very clear that that is the case. Here's why -- when I replied to your post that it wasn't the only means to happiness, you acquiesced. But I was merely repeating a statement that I had already made in the post, directly after the statement you quoted.
But you didn't read it. And you didn't understand my point. So you didn't know that. You had some knee jerk reaction to a statement that you thought implied that money buys happiness. People without a lot of money often react strongly to that statement because they think it implies they cannot be happy. Your knee jerk reaction was so strong that you failed to even take the time to realize it wasn't what I was saying at all.
You can call it being defensive, but I call it correcting someone who obviously has trouble reading and comprehending without falling prey to their own immediate emotional reactions.