What sells more?

[conner01]

That 15-1 team gets you at least one more home game while the 8-8 team is cleaning out lockers in an empty stadium. Even Jerry would see that.

Jerry wants to win, he just can't admit that he lacks the significant amount of skill needed to put a winning roster and staff together and he doesn't have the time to even pretend like he's trying.

Winning sells jerseys too
Jerry really does want to win
He is passionate about winning
His ego just won’t let him replace himself as the main man
I do think he listens to those around him more than ever now

 

[Diehardblues]

Bob—winning does sell better than anything else but when your already #1 in Revenue by a long shot it allows for other or personal agendas to creep into the equation.

Winning isn’t directly correlated with generating revenue anymore like it was before all of Jerry’s HOF contributions.

 

[Bobhaze]

Booger is a follow the ball GM and other than TDs being scored, the offense has always gotten more cheers and excitement from the crowd. To the point that Romo had to quieten them down when coming to the line all too often.

I have a theory about this but it calls for another thread. But this thread and your other got me to thinking about this today.

Write it Coach!

 

[cern]

I honestly wonder what Jerry Jones’ answer would be to this question:

“What sells more? An 8-8 team with a very exciting offense....OR a 15-1 team with an average offense and a killer defense?”
Which of those two team models would Jerry rather have?

There are fundamental core issues here-
1. Does winning sell more than excitement? In other words, if you win a super bowl regardless of how, isn’t that the ultimate in marketing- winning? YES!
2. Does the excitement of just being close to winning also a great money maker? Is 8-8 with a 500 yard offense as good for profits as a Lombardi? NO!

Anyone who puts WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP as the ultimate organizational goal should know that WINNING SELLS better than anything else.

Just win baby! Right?

15-1 is better than 8-8. Moral victories are worthless.

 

[Sarge]

I miss the days of truly STOUT defenses. Carry on.

 

[jazzcat22]

You host a game or multiple games and you make money on parking, concessions etc.. plus playoff success allows you to jack up the prices. Owners split the pot from TV to ticket sales, but there's still an opportunity to make more than if you didn't make the playoffs.

They do not jack up the prices for concessions or parking. Now parking that is not controlled by the team may be jacked up, but not the stadium parking itself.
Tickets prices are slightly higher. But the concession prices are the same as regular games. At least they were when I went to playoff games.

Home teams get a higher % of the ticket prices, or used to, something like 60 / 40

An off site parking area, for a game against the Browns, they may charge $40, but against the Eagles it will be $50, for a playoff game $60....but stadium parking is always $75. But if a person selling them on stub hub at times I seen the price at $150, but that is an individual not the team.

 

[xwalker]

I honestly wonder what Jerry Jones’ answer would be to this question:

“What sells more? An 8-8 team with a very exciting offense....OR a 15-1 team with an average offense and a killer defense?”
Which of those two team models would Jerry rather have?

There are fundamental core issues here-
1. Does winning sell more than excitement? In other words, if you win a super bowl regardless of how, isn’t that the ultimate in marketing- winning? YES!
2. Does the excitement of just being close to winning also a great money maker? Is 8-8 with a 500 yard offense as good for profits as a Lombardi? NO!

Anyone who puts WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP as the ultimate organizational goal should know that WINNING SELLS better than anything else.

Just win baby! Right?

This is at least your 3rd thread in about a week with the same underlying theme but disguised as a different topic.

You want them to go All-In on defense. That's the point of all the threads.

There have been more offensive driven teams to win the Super Bowl in the modern era than those with a defensive identity.

Many were good on both sides.

The Ninities Cowboys SB teams were known for their offensive identity. They had very good defenses on those teams but offense was their identity.

On the flip side the Eagles in that timeframe with Reggie White and Jerome Brown didn't win a Super Bowl despite having one of the all-time great defenses.

Side Note:
Many younger fans probably know about Reggie White but Jerome Brown was one of the best NFL players of any era at any position.

It is much like how everybody knows about Larry Allen but Erik Williams pre-accident was one of the most dominant players in NFL history. Players fearing being beat up by LA but other players feared that EW might literally kill them because that genuinely appeared to be his mindset. LA beat people up for fun but EW was a very angry player.

The Brady-Belichick Patriots have had some really good defenses but their identity has always been offense. I've lost track of how Super Bowl wins and appearances they've had.

The eighties/nineties 49ers had good defenses but their identity was offense with the greatest WR and possibly greatest QB of all time.

 

[Bobhaze]

This is at least your 3rd thread in about a week with the same underlying theme but disguised as a different topic.

You want them to go All-In on defense. That's the point of all the threads.

There have been more offensive driven teams to win the Super Bowl in the modern era than those with a defensive identity.

Many were good on both sides.

The Ninities Cowboys SB teams were known for their offensive identity. They had very good defenses on those teams but offense was their identity.

On the flip side the Eagles in that timeframe with Reggie White and Jerome Brown didn't win a Super Bowl despite having one of the all-time great defenses.

Side Note:
Many younger fans probably know about Reggie White but Jerome Brown was one of the best NFL players of any era at any position.

It is much like how everybody knows about Larry Allen but Erik Williams pre-accident was one of the most dominant players in NFL history. Players fearing being beat up by LA but other players feared that EW might literally kill them because that genuinely appeared to be his mindset. LA beat people up for fun but EW was a very angry player.

The Brady-Belichick Patriots have had some really good defenses but their identity has always been offense. I've lost track of how Super Bowl wins and appearances they've had.

The eighties/nineties 49ers had good defenses but their identity was offense with the greatest WR and possibly greatest QB of all time.

Some good points here X-man about some good offenses. Well said. But since you mentioned what my “underlying theme” may be in some of my comments, allow me to clarify...

I’m not suggesting we go 100% defense in the draft, although I do hope we draft defense early if a good LB, S or DT is available. I’m not suggesting we don’t need a good offense. In fact I want us to have an effective, well balanced offense.

But here’s my bigger point: It’s time for this team to stop expecting offense to carry a larger load of responsibility to win. We need both sides of the ball to be excellent if we’re going to compete for a championship.

I want to win a championship. So I’m “all in” for whatever it takes to get there. And IMO, we will take a step closer to competing for a SB when we stop expecting the offense to carry most of the load.

Thanks for letting me clarify my “underlying theme”, lol.

 

[jday]

I honestly wonder what Jerry Jones’ answer would be to this question:

“What sells more? An 8-8 team with a very exciting offense....OR a 15-1 team with an average offense and a killer defense?”
Which of those two team models would Jerry rather have?

There are fundamental core issues here-
1. Does winning sell more than excitement? In other words, if you win a super bowl regardless of how, isn’t that the ultimate in marketing- winning? YES!
2. Does the excitement of just being close to winning also a great money maker? Is 8-8 with a 500 yard offense as good for profits as a Lombardi? NO!

Anyone who puts WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP as the ultimate organizational goal should know that WINNING SELLS better than anything else.

Just win baby! Right?

I think you are asking the wrong person. The slant towarst offense is likely more due to Garrett than then Joneses.

 

[xwalker]

Some good points here X-man about some good offenses. Well said. But since you mentioned what my “underlying theme” may be in some of my comments, allow me to clarify...

I’m not suggesting we go 100% defense in the draft, although I do hope we draft defense early if a good LB, S or DT is available. I’m not suggesting we don’t need a good offense. In fact I want us to have an effective, well balanced offense.

But here’s my bigger point: It’s time for this team to stop expecting offense to carry a larger load of responsibility to win. We need both sides of the ball to be excellent if we’re going to compete for a championship.

I want to win a championship. So I’m “all in” for whatever it takes to get there. And IMO, we will take a step closer to competing for a SB when we stop expecting the offense to carry most of the load.

Thanks for letting me clarify my “underlying theme”, lol.

There were a couple of years when the Romo era Cowboys were a couple of defensive players away from a Super Bowl.

I agree that they need to avoid that situation again.

 

[Tangle_Foot]

Victories. Everybody loves a winner!

 

[ShiningStar]

deaf loyalty.