What successful NFL owners do and don’t do

Kaiser

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In fact, he fooled us so spectacularly that they put him in the Hall of Fame. His "contribution" to football was finding ways to get all of us to spend more money whether through direct sales or patronizing their sponsors.

Curse those blaggard villans at Sleep Number Beds!

Your analogy was Jerry buying a restaurant and trying to cook the food himself. That would be correct if Jerry was out on the field trying to be a player. Instead he is hiring the chefs, making the top decisions, doing all the marketing, etc. He is in the Hall of Fame because he did that better than the vast majority of other owners.

And revenue is how every business keeps score. Its not the complete picture and winning is paramount, but there are a lot of owners that don't care and don't win, plus guys like Daniel Snyder that care and still lose consistently.
 

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Curse those blaggard villans at Sleep Number Beds!

Your analogy was Jerry buying a restaurant and trying to cook the food himself. That would be correct if Jerry was out on the field trying to be a player. Instead he is hiring the chefs, making the top decisions, doing all the marketing, etc. He is in the Hall of Fame because he did that better than the vast majority of other owners.

And revenue is how every business keeps score. Its not the complete picture and winning is paramount, but there are a lot of owners that don't care and don't win, plus guys like Daniel Snyder that care and still lose consistently.
Yes, thats how businesses keep score. When it comes to the Cowboys, is it how fans keep score?

This is the fundamental flaw when it comes to owners being GM, a massive conflict of interest. They are entirely two different ways of defining success.

Should the goal of an owner be to make as much money as possible? I suppose in most cases but what about cases in which there is an implied obligation to a particular community? They are the Dallas Cowboys not the Jones Cowboys. Jerry once said that no one can own the Cowboys, he sees himself as a "steward" of the team.

I would suggest that the goal of any owner is to make that money during the process of satisfying that obligation.

This means that Jerry would have to recognize that his performance as GM implies that not stepping down violates that obligation.
 

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Yes, thats how businesses keep score. When it comes to the Cowboys, is it how fans keep score?

Fans want a Super Bowl every year but that isn't realistic. Post-salary cap its all a bunch of evenly matched teams with no really dominant ones. The Patriots have won more than anyone but that is because they have the GOAT HC and GOAT QB at the same time.

Jerry makes more money as owner because he has a bigger fan base and is more innovative. The NFL was horrible at marketing when Jones came in and if you look at everything like Stadium Naming Rights that Jerry started (and was hugely criticized for) every pro team in every sport does the same thing now.

Jerry has plenty of faults but the issue isn't Jerry spending money. He pays more than anyone to get the coaches he wants. He spends more on things like practice facilities than anyone. He doesn't firehose money at free agents (any more) because guys like Daniel Snyder proved that backfires more often than it helps. The formula for GMs now is to draft well and develop your own guys, which is exactly what Dallas has committed to for the last 5 - 7 years.
 

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Here we go again.

Fail on so many points, as the numbers are far more in favor of owners that have GM's. So of course they have the SB's wins in their favor.

So what happened before the 23 years, when an owner / GM hired a coach and allowed him to hire his own staff, that won 3 SB's? Not going to give him any credit?

Most owners do have family working for them. Just not publicized the way Jerry does it.
So what Jerry has his own shows, interviews. Others do also, but again, not always shown nationally. We see it as fans, as most do not pay attention or get to see all 31 other teams local media or here the talk shows.

I know what you are saying, but this is not a very good way to do it. IMO.

I'm pretty sure the Bengals are the only NFL team besides the Cowboys with an owner pretending to be a football guy.
 

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Fans want a Super Bowl every year but that isn't realistic. Post-salary cap its all a bunch of evenly matched teams with no really dominant ones. The Patriots have won more than anyone but that is because they have the GOAT HC and GOAT QB at the same time.

Jerry makes more money as owner because he has a bigger fan base and is more innovative. The NFL was horrible at marketing when Jones came in and if you look at everything like Stadium Naming Rights that Jerry started (and was hugely criticized for) every pro team in every sport does the same thing now.

Jerry has plenty of faults but the issue isn't Jerry spending money. He pays more than anyone to get the coaches he wants. He spends more on things like practice facilities than anyone. He doesn't firehose money at free agents (any more) because guys like Daniel Snyder proved that backfires more often than it helps. The formula for GMs now is to draft well and develop your own guys, which is exactly what Dallas has committed to for the last 5 - 7 years.
The problem isn't the quality of the talent being brought it, the problem is what it has always been, the lack of accountibility and the redundant cycle of building a quality team and then destroying it with poor management decisions.

It's always the same. Talented coaching and/or scouting builds up a quality team that begins winning. Then Jerry grabs the controls, takes over, makes destructive football decisions, and all potential crashes to the ground. W

have seen this with Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells and now the trio of Stephen, McCoy, and Garrett.

It's true that a team can't win a Super Bowl every year, there are 32 teams competing, 16 per conference. That means the "average" amount of times a team goes to the conference championship would be every 8 season, a Super Bowl every 16 seasons, with a Championship ring every 32 seasons.

It has been 24 seasons since the Cowboys have even been to a conference championship. Time is running out when we can justify not winning at least one Super Bowl and grossly overdue for just getting there.
 

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The problem isn't the quality of the talent being brought it, the problem is what it has always been, the lack of accountibility and the redundant cycle of building a quality team and then destroying it with poor management decisions.

It's always the same. Talented coaching and/or scouting builds up a quality team that begins winning. Then Jerry grabs the controls, takes over, makes destructive football decisions, and all potential crashes to the ground. W

have seen this with Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells and now the trio of Stephen, McCoy, and Garrett.

It's true that a team can't win a Super Bowl every year, there are 32 teams competing, 16 per conference. That means the "average" amount of times a team goes to the conference championship would be every 8 season, a Super Bowl every 16 seasons, with a Championship ring every 32 seasons.

It has been 24 seasons since the Cowboys have even been to a conference championship. Time is running out when we can justify not winning at least one Super Bowl and grossly overdue for just getting there.
Outstanding post.

Should Cowboys fans not expect to at least make a conference championship at least once a quarter century? When there’s only two other NFC teams besides Dallas that haven’t?

When I saw Jerry’s comments today that “nothing was going to change” regarding his being in charge, my first thought was this: It will not matter who the be HC is if Jerry himself keeps doing what he’s been doing...and somehow expecting the results to differ- because they won’t. I’m sick of this egomaniacal fool. Fans need to try everything possible to embarrass this fool.
 

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Outstanding post.

Should Cowboys fans not expect to at least make a conference championship at least once a quarter century? When there’s only two other NFC teams besides Dallas that haven’t?

When I saw Jerry’s comments today that “nothing was going to change” regarding his being in charge, my first thought was this: It will not matter who the be HC is if Jerry himself keeps doing what he’s been doing...and somehow expecting the results to differ- because they won’t. I’m sick of this egomaniacal fool. Fans need to try everything possible to embarrass this fool.

It won't matter if we embarass him. We're stuck with Captain Ahab until he dies. (I'm not hoping for his death..just stating fact)
 
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