What the hell happened to Kurt Warner?

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theogt said:
He's not mailing it in if he's going with the best player at QB.


I would say he knows where is team is at mentally but I would just think that Warner is more prepared to win at this stage than the rookie....

rookie QBs rarley do well enough to win .Rothlisburg excluded
 

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Cowboy Junkie said:
I would say he knows where is team is at mentally but I would just think that Warner is more prepared to win at this stage than the rookie....

rookie QBs rarley do well enough to win .Rothlisburg excluded


And he hasnt practiced with the team as much .
 

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Taking snaps in practice I would think would be much easier than taking them with 11 monsters trying to disabilate you.


You're missing my point.

Don't you think that, just maybe, the Cardinals organization knows a little bit more about this than you?

They've got an aging, streaky QB who has been turning the ball over 4+ times a game. They also have a young talented first rounder that played well in the pre-season. HMMMMM. You think, perhaps, he's been outplaying the old guy in practice too? It's definitely a possibilty. Now, that being said, you may continue being smarter than the coaches of teams you probably know very little about.
 

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tomson75 said:
You're missing my point.

Don't you think that, just maybe, the Cardinals organization knows a little bit more about this than you?

They've got an aging, streaky QB who has been turning the ball over 4+ times a game. They also have a young talented first rounder that played well in the pre-season. HMMMMM. You think, perhaps, he's been outplaying the old guy in practice too? It's definitely a possibilty. Now, that being said, you may continue being smarter than the coaches of teams you probably know very little about.


I dont know if they know more about the NFL or not.
They haven't showed it in the last 20 years..

I can see I am the only one that feels like it is a mistake and for the future it may not be but for this year if they go with the rookie for all next week without an inhury to Warner . I would be shocked if they made the playoffs this year , would You?
 

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Warner lost his game after Roy broke his hand. He lost his confidence, and it's been a downward spiral from there.

Still, I think Leinart is way overrated, but who knows, maybe I'll eat my words. They should have stuck with Warner.
 

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Natedawg44 said:
One thing about Warner I couldn't believe the stat that Peter King quoted.
Marino games to reach 20,000 yards 75
Warner games to reach 20,000 yards 76:eek:

He also has the best career completion percentage in NFL history.

Folks are jumping the gun way too much on their assessments of Warner. Look at his stats from last year game by game--the guy had a great year when healthy. For that matter, look at his performance the first two games of the season this year.

The guy does have considerable problems holding on to the ball, but I think his release and decision making ability came back strong last season.
 

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I dont know if they know more about the NFL or not.
They haven't showed it in the last 20 years..

I can see I am the only one that feels like it is a mistake and for the future it may not be but for this year if they go with the rookie for all next week without an inhury to Warner . I would be shocked if they made the playoffs this year , would You?

Yes, I would be shocked if the made the playoffs...with Warner OR Leinart. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to attack you here, its just that DG has the advantage of seeing these two guys day in and day out. I'd be sick of seeing my vet QB turn the ball over every other series too...slightly less so if it were a rookie.
 

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I can trace this all back to one thing.

Roy Williams' hit on Kurt Warner that broke his hand and ushered in the Marc Bulger era. Warner was never the same before.




Quite a hit by Roy Williams...










Atta boy Roy.
 

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tomson75 said:
Yes, I would be shocked if the made the playoffs...with Warner OR Leinart. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to attack you here, its just that DG has the advantage of seeing these two guys day in and day out. I'd be sick of seeing my vet QB turn the ball over every other series too...slightly less so if it were a rookie.


i wasnt taking it an attack.
I understand and repect your opinion ..
The whos knows more football me or the Cards was a joke at the Cards expense not a counter punch...

You may be very well right .there are many ways to accomplish things and if there wasnt disagreement this board would be awfully boring.
 

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this move is not about Warners ability as much it is about telling the team the season is over and time to go into rebuild..

Too much talent in Arizona to give up so early.
Now after 5 or 6 more games than yeah if things arent out of control(record wise) Yeah give the rookie some game time

Too much talent? I guess they have a good squad. But realasitcally, they arent going anywhere this year with Warner. You might as well let Leinart get in there and learn now. The seasons a wash eitehr way. They have alot of YOUNG talent, and Edge should have a few good years left in him. And dont discoutn Arrington, he's a very good back.
 

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warner had a bad game. and sure the book on him is he will come unwound in the face of constant pressure. gee, now there's a familiar tune... it describes just about any QB in the NFL.

ultimately, leinart will look exactly like what he is - a rookie QB who is nowhere near ready for primetime.

green will be courting warner again shortly. book it.
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
So my questions is: What the hell happened to Kurt Warner?

one man:

Roy Williams

he broke his index finger, and Warner hasn't been right since
 

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bigbadroy said:
yeah roy broke it

yep, back in '03

I still remember stupid Quincy sliding short of the 1st down, late in the 4th, when all he had to do was keep running, and then slide, cuz he had the 1st, just he heard footsteps and slid early, that almost cost us that game
 

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tomson75 said:
You're missing my point.

Don't you think that, just maybe, the Cardinals organization knows a little bit more about this than you?

They've got an aging, streaky QB who has been turning the ball over 4+ times a game. They also have a young talented first rounder that played well in the pre-season. HMMMMM. You think, perhaps, he's been outplaying the old guy in practice too? It's definitely a possibilty. Now, that being said, you may continue being smarter than the coaches of teams you probably know very little about.

I think it's more political than anything else, Matt is a high-priced 1st round pick, your team looks bad, and so does the vet QB starting, it's early in the season, time to make a move, and start getting some of your money back, it's why Buffalo jettisoned Bledsoe even though it was clear Losman wasn't ready
 

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summerisfunner said:
I think it's more political than anything else, Matt is a high-priced 1st round pick, your team looks bad, and so does the vet QB starting, it's early in the season, time to make a move, and start getting some of your money back, it's why Buffalo jettisoned Bledsoe even though it was clear Losman wasn't ready
and Lossman still isn't ready. i was laffin' my a** off sunday watching him hang out his RB on short dumpoffs that were 4 feet over his head. dude's play is atrocious. cutting Bledsoe loose was pure buffoonery and entirely to the benefit of our heroes.
 
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