What we allow, we teach

[Juke99]

If you watch the clip at 1:15...Stephen Jones is calling for a time out...Jerry joins in late with "Time out Jason" but the best part of the clip...there's a woman sitting behind both of them calling for the time out before either Stephen or Jerry do.

The entire box knew...we all knew..Garrett froze....again.

Folks, in my opinion, this comes down to one thing and one thing only...leadership. The guy on the sidelines sets the tone. If crunch time arrives and he comes apart at the seams, that's not a good sign.

Phillips was a great assistant (he's proving that again this year) but did not have the leadership qualities needed in a head coach. His teams were a reflection of his "We won a playoff game because we had a first round bye" attitude.

I have been watching this team for 48 years. I have never seen a team lose in the way this team has for the past bunch of years.

Four years ago, Deion Sanders made the comment that the team lacks the killer instinct.

This crap has been going on for way too long. Yet....

Losers tolerate a losing mentality. The talent level in the NFL is not defined by what happens in the first 3+ quarters of a game but by what happens in crunch time.

In that sense, this team is NOT a good team. It's like a fighter piling up points and then getting knocked on his backside and out in the last round.

Different guys have taken turns choking away games. Last night, they all chipped in. Yet, nothing will be done.

A long time ago, I was taught, "What we allow, we teach"

 

[JakeCamp12]

Juke,

How come we see this and no one else does??? We have been saying this since I first joined here. I never thought I would have my passion for this franchise and this sport drained like has happened since Jimmy Johnson was fired. Even when Landry's final years were coming to a close, I never felt this team was filled with soft, dumb quitters. But Parcells was the toughest task master we had and even he couldn't break the stench this franchise has with just Jerry running the ship. I only hope that Stephen is a better GM than Jerry.

 

[Juke99]

Juke,

How come we see this and no one else does??? We have been saying this since I first joined here. I never thought I would have my passion for this franchise and this sport drained like has happened since Jimmy Johnson was fired. Even when Landry's final years were coming to a close, I never felt this team was filled with soft, dumb quitters. But Parcells was the toughest task master we had and even he couldn't break the stench this franchise has with just Jerry running the ship. I only hope that Stephen is a better GM than Jerry.

I take a business approach to this stuff. It's a business organization. I see a lot of folks who only focus on the product, which in this case, is the team.

The team is nothing more than the product created by the organization called the "Dallas Cowboys"

Another great thing I learned from a brilliant business consultant, "Your organization is perfectly structured to give you the results you are experiencing today"

It's the same as any other business with a faulty product. This faulty product happens to be a football team.

 

[TNCowboy]

Bibles full of truth, Juke.

 

[Haley94]

I agree, Jerry is the constant in all this. But he is too much of an attention ***** to give up the reins completely to his son or anyone else. We have not had the killer instinct since the glory days 16 years ago, because of the psychology Johnson instilled. The core of this team was built by Parcells, a known quitter who swims in serious self doubt, despite his facade. I expect this to go on at least another four to 10 years, maybe longer. This is how curses happen, like a virus from team to team, year to year. It will take a special team to break this. Make no mistake, this collapse was a result of serious self doubt, Collapses of teams are collective efforts of many different things.

They can win out and go to the playoffs. i hope i'm a fool and will gladly eat crow, but this team doesn't believe it will do that, from Jerry to the ball boy, so they won't. It all starts in the mind.

 

[Juke99]

Hold on...I never placed this at Jerry's feet.

It's an organizational issue.

I don't want this to become another thread that's a battle about Jerry.

 

[Haley94]

Oh yeah. this difference between hope and belief is that hope is passive, belief is proactive.

 

[Haley94]

Hold on...I never placed this at Jerry's feet.

It's an organizational issue.

I don't want this to become another thread that's a battle about Jerry.

Wel if it is an organization issue, how can you not look at the president and general manage who structures and leads the organization.

 

[Juke99]

Wel if it is an organization issue, how can you not look at the president and general manage who structures and leads the organization.

Surely, he holds the lion's share of the resonsibility.

But ya know, employees also need to learn how to manage their managers.

Across the board, there is an acceptance for the nonsense we see...one choke after the next.

Dallas Cowboys Airlines. The flight is great...all the way until the landing...until we skid off the runway....time and again...yet the pilots keep getting in the planes....so do the flight attendants....and repeating the same crap over and over again. It is the pattern that's disturbing...and it's a pattern that's repeated by different culprits each time...
Yet all the employees keep getting back on the plane, "Fly Cowboys Airlines...just parachute before the landing" No one speaks out.

Sometimes it only takes ONE outspoken person to catch the attention of those at the top.

Yep, Jerry holds the cards but the entire organization is to blame.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I just don't know anymore.

I seen that we were favored by a few points. I seen right before the game that Dungy and Harrison picked us to win.

I think to myself...we have not won vs the giants at home for a while now, we have a terrible record in prime time games lately...what makes people think we are going to win?

I seen people on this forum a couple of weeks ago talking about how we are going to kill the Cardinals. I think to myself...what are these people seeing or thinking?

Maybe I need to get my eyes checked because with the way this team has played the last few years I just don't know what makes people so confident that we will go into a game and just automatically win.

This team, over the last few years, has slow started to turn me into a negative nancy. Something that I normally can not stand. So for the most part I just bite my tongue and not say anything. But every once in a while I have to vent a little.

This team always seems to find a way to screw up. One week the defense does great but the offense can't score. Another week the offense scores at will but the defense can't stop anything...and sprinkled in there is some kind of silly special teams screw ups.

I also have to wonder what our penalty situation is this year. It seems like we are always getting some crazy penalties that scream lack of preparation or accountability.

I keep hearing this team is headed in the right direction but I tell you for every step forward it seems to make, it takes two steps back. And for a team that is "headed in the right direction" we still seem to be making the same mistakes and losing games in spectacular fashion.

I realize that from time to time teams will lose. I realize that from time to time you are just the inferior team on the field.

However when you have a problem that spans back a few years you have to wonder why things are still happening.

Prime time games - What is the major difference between this time of a game vs a 12 or 4 game?

Penalties - Why are we continually making the same penalties over and over even with coaching changes?

Month of December - What is it about December that we struggle with?

This team is a big tease. They start doing better and take you to the point of starting to forget about the past failing ways only to turn around and remind you of it.

People are talking about how we need to win the last three and hope other teams lose some. Some people seem to think we can do it.
The way I see it if we win more than one of the remaining games it would shock the crap out of me. Even if I did get the crap shocked out of me I just can't see this team making a run in the playoffs.

This team just frustrates and annoys me so much any more.

 

[Haley94]

Yes, but the bucks stops with him. The reality is when evaluating a company or an organization from the outside, nobody blames the employees if they are not getting it done (that should be an internal process). You look at the senior executive team of an organization because they implemented the structure and hired the managers that hired the employees.

Now i know this is a football team and not a public company. But one playoff win in a decade and a half is unsatisfactory. If it were a public company the shareholders would have fired Jerry long ago.

 

[STSINAZ]

If you watch the clip at 1:15...Stephen Jones is calling for a time out...Jerry joins in late with "Time out Jason" but the best part of the clip...there's a woman sitting behind both of them calling for the time out before either Stephen or Jerry do.

The entire box knew...we all knew..Garrett froze....again.

Folks, in my opinion, this comes down to one thing and one thing only...leadership. The guy on the sidelines sets the tone. If crunch time arrives and he comes apart at the seams, that's not a good sign.

Phillips was a great assistant (he's proving that again this year) but did not have the leadership qualities needed in a head coach. His teams were a reflection of his "We won a playoff game because we had a first round bye" attitude.

I have been watching this team for 48 years. I have never seen a team lose in the way this team has for the past bunch of years.

Four years ago, Deion Sanders made the comment that the team lacks the killer instinct.

This crap has been going on for way too long. Yet....

Losers tolerate a losing mentality. The talent level in the NFL is not defined by what happens in the first 3+ quarters of a game but by what happens in crunch time.

In that sense, this team is NOT a good team. It's like a fighter piling up points and then getting knocked on his backside and out in the last round.

Different guys have taken turns choking away games. Last night, they all chipped in. Yet, nothing will be done.

A long time ago, I was taught, "What we allow, we teach"

JERRY DOESNT HAVE IT SO IT STARTS AT THE TOP! HE BRINGS IN LOSERS FOR COACHES...EVER SINCE JIMMY....

 

[visionary]

great points juke and BP
couldnt have said it better myself

 

[Juke99]

Yes, but the bucks stops with him. The reality is when evaluating a company or an organization from the outside, nobody blames the employees if they are not getting it done (that should be an internal process). You look at the senior executive team of an organization because they implemented the structure and hired the managers that hired the employees.

Now i know this is a football team and not a public company. But one playoff win in a decade and a half is unsatisfactory. If it were a public company the shareholders would have fired Jerry long ago.

I'm politely dodging this because I'm tired of being slammed around here for getting after Jerry Jones.

That said, I am still amazed that guys go out on the field, in a violently dangerous sport and don't kick someone right in the backside for the crap we see week after week.

 

[GRD]

If you watch the clip at 1:15...Stephen Jones is calling for a time out...Jerry joins in late with "Time out Jason" but the best part of the clip...there's a woman sitting behind both of them calling for the time out before either Stephen or Jerry do.

The entire box knew...we all knew..Garrett froze....again.

Folks, in my opinion, this comes down to one thing and one thing only...leadership. The guy on the sidelines sets the tone. If crunch time arrives and he comes apart at the seams, that's not a good sign.

Phillips was a great assistant (he's proving that again this year) but did not have the leadership qualities needed in a head coach. His teams were a reflection of his "We won a playoff game because we had a first round bye" attitude.

I have been watching this team for 48 years. I have never seen a team lose in the way this team has for the past bunch of years.

Four years ago, Deion Sanders made the comment that the team lacks the killer instinct.

This crap has been going on for way too long. Yet....

Losers tolerate a losing mentality. The talent level in the NFL is not defined by what happens in the first 3+ quarters of a game but by what happens in crunch time.

In that sense, this team is NOT a good team. It's like a fighter piling up points and then getting knocked on his backside and out in the last round.

Different guys have taken turns choking away games. Last night, they all chipped in. Yet, nothing will be done.

A long time ago, I was taught, "What we allow, we teach"

Where is the clip...:bang2:

 

[Juke99]

Where is the clip...:bang2:

Sorry. I have it on my DTV.

But it is quite funny/annoying.

Very nice looking woman...sitting behind the "brain" trust. Yelling.
"Time out. Call a TIME OUT!" and she even slaps her hands together in annoyance.

 

[THUMPER]

I take a business approach to this stuff. It's a business organization. I see a lot of folks who only focus on the product, which in this case, is the team.

The team is nothing more than the product created by the organization called the "Dallas Cowboys"

Another great thing I learned from a brilliant business consultant, "Your organization is perfectly structured to give you the results you are experiencing today"

It's the same as any other business with a faulty product. This faulty product happens to be a football team.

The unfortunate thing is that Jerry doesn't believe this. He believes that what he is doing is working (somehow) and he just needs to tweak a thing here and there. Delusional. :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

 

[Juke99]

The unfortunate thing is that Jerry doesn't believe this. He believes that what he is doing is working (somehow) and he just needs to tweak a thing here and there. Delusional. :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

No sane human being can argue with the assertion.

"Your organization is perfectly structured to give you the results you are experiencing today"

Now, that said...who said Jerry sees the goal of the organization is to produce a winning team?

Perhaps, it's to produce a winning team in order to make money. Perhaps it's to produce a winning team for which I personally get all the credit.

Those are very different goals than to simply produce a winning team.
It's all conjecture but something is way outta whack.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I realize that from time to time teams will lose. I realize that from time to time you are just the inferior team on the field.

Funny you mention this, .. I have been saying something similar for most of the season, .. since the Jets and the Lions games.

It used to be that we lost because we were the inferior team. We hoped we could win, but we weren't as good as the other team, or simply not good enough to go out and win certain games.

I can live with that. I don't like it, but I can hope that through the offseason trades, or FA pickups, or the draft that we can get better.

But what is killing me is seeing that we are as good or better than the team we are playing, but we continue to screw it up to epic proportions and give games away.

We have lost three games that we led by 12 in the 4th quarter this season. We lost a game the we led 27-3!!

The way we lost the Arizona game is unbelievable, on many levels.

We lost to the Ravens in the last game at TS on two 80 yard runs from scrimmage. How often does that happen?

The skins scoring twice in the final minutes to win a game that we dominated 14-13.

I can't list them all. You know what I am talking about.

Last night we helped them in many ways in their comeback, .. in the wrong defense, game-changing penalties, shankapotamous punts, .. can't block for a simple FG.

My point is, if we are not good enough to win the game, .. I get that. I don't like it but I understand. But being good enough, and then the offense, the defense, the special teams, the coaches giving games away like we have many times lately, I can not stomach that any longer.

Something is wrong in Dallas.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Funny thing is Juke you just explained Tim Tebow... it never matters in the first 3 quarters but time and time again when the 4th quarter comes the dude shows up with a killer instinct that you just can't coach. He has a belief in himself which no one on this team has. His team stands and watches him play our team when the game is on the line sits on the bench with a dumb founded look on their faces, why? because that's the look the past 2 coaches have.