What we have that both SB teams don’t

blueblood70

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1. A RB being paid huge cap space.
2. A former great 38 year old TE on their roster for “sentimental reasons”.
3. (If we sign Cooper to a big deal) A WR eating big cap space.
4. A family run front office.

We at least have a new HC that has delivered a SB before.
yea do some research Watkins and Hill make big bank, I wonder what Kelce makes? Mahomes about to get 40.. it happens

you know what we will have a Jimmy Garopollo aka Alex Smith type that misses open WRS that can win games..his name is Dak , last year Goff did it twice in the SB, dak did it so much last six games of the season it was truly a wake up call..

JG makes 28 Mil is a teir 2 guy and we are a looking to pay Dak 34 and hes not better, they are in the same tier... the weak link in that game yesterday was Garoppolo.. take close look at the future, you can build around and overpaid QB, try and cover up his warts with the run game, talent in the pass game, and short conservatives passes but when the chips are down and you lean on that QB , they fail more then they deliver..Dak was more our issue then zeke was...

dont blame this on Zekes deal which BTW also the 49ers pay their 4 RBs combined MORE THEN Zeke so they have the same or more invested in the Rb psotion..

good try but there are more reasons to us not making the sb then that list.. half are gone ie the coaching staff..
 

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We just got rid of our 10 yr do nothing coach

let’s give MM a chance
 

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yea do some research Watkins and Hill make big bank, I wonder what Kelce makes? Mahomes about to get 40.. it happens

you know what we will have a Jimmy Garopollo aka Alex Smith type that misses open WRS that can win games..his name is Dak , last year Goff did it twice in the SB, dak did it so much last six games of the season it was truly a wake up call..

JG makes 28 Mil is a teir 2 guy and we are a looking to pay Dak 34 and hes not better, they are in the same tier... the weak link in that game yesterday was Garoppolo.. take close look at the future, you can build around and overpaid QB, try and cover up his warts with the run game, talent in the pass game, and short conservatives passes but when the chips are down and you lean on that QB , they fail more then they deliver..Dak was more our issue then zeke was...

dont blame this on Zekes deal which BTW also the 49ers pay their 4 RBs combined MORE THEN Zeke so they have the same or more invested in the Rb psotion..

good try but there are more reasons to us not making the sb then that list.. half are gone ie the coaching staff..
I’m curious-what would be on your list Blue?
 

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I’m curious-what would be on your list Blue?
coaching first and foremost, Bad FG kicker and special teams overall, DL was inconsistent and in this type of Defense like the same one they run in SF, if they dont effect the QB you get lit up, and defense..the offense wasn't there all year but its last on my list Zeke and Amaris deals etc dak its not something im worried oabout.

however likes been mentioned, we have new staff, a long offseason of FA and the draft..changes are coming so focusing on 2019 when its fully in the rearview mirror is not a debate as change is coming..

IN the KC mold they are paying those WRs/TE good money because they have an MVP Elite QB on a rookie deal and thats the strong point, they didnt need to pay a RB as thats not their focus or identity.. our was different Dak needs a strong run game and Oline so it wasn't a mistake paying zeke but those other warts proved to be hard to overcome.. poor field postion, no big turnover margins, Fg kicker going south etc ..our offense was good but couldn't overcome the OTHER things..
2020 we will have better STs , its cant be worse lol defense has 18FAs to be replaced and new DC and scheme.. so be patient lets see how this works out..
 

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One thing we have is an old TE these SB teams have the best in the league . We had a kicker that couldnt make 40 yrd FGs for most of the season SB teams dont have that . We have a QB that didnt throw any INTs in the last 4 game and can straight arm guys to the ground . SB teams didnt have that

We have horrible kick coverage SB teams dont have
We have a great RB that we pay a fortune . SB teams have no name guys who get the job done

We have a team that gave up because they were so poorly coached they had no hope . SB teams dont have that they fight to the end no matter how far down because there coach basically lives at the stadium and sacrificed his family time to get them there

We have a QB that struggled in games just like the the SB winning QB did most of the game when being hammered with pressure almost exactly the same . 2 fumbles 2 INTs balls thrown in the dirt, balls thrown behind , Heck I have seen kids in the punt pass and kick throw a tighter spiral , my lands what a horrible wobbly ball Mahomes was throwing . But when he finally got the ball close far from in stride but close Hill caught it and broke the game open .

Heres what we have receivers that drop the ball like Gallup did in his hands when his QB needed him in the Eagles game like Mahomes needed Hill last night
 

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1. A RB being paid huge cap space.
2. A former great 38 year old TE on their roster for “sentimental reasons”.
3. (If we sign Cooper to a big deal) A WR eating big cap space.
4. A family run front office.

We at least have a new HC that has delivered a SB before.
Sammy Watkins is eating up big cap space, and Tyreek Hill will also be eating up big cap space next season, so it's not accurate to say the Cheifs are not committing a lot of cap space to WR's.

But the thing is, there is no set formula for building a team or managing cap space. One team might pay a Travis Kelce a bigger salary, and pay less for RB's, and another might pay the RB and less on TE, as the Cowboys did with Zeke and Witten. Neither represents the only way to go. It just comes down to how effectively a team can use the players they choose to focus on.
 

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After watching this season and particularly the playoffs and that game last night, the Cowboys are not as far off as some might think. Better coaching and focusing on consistency could put this team playing in that game next year.

There's one thing neither of those teams is, great. There are no great teams. The Pats were the last one and those teams in that game last night are shining examples of just what the NFL is now.

This Cowboys coaching staff should be very confident about this upcoming season. They are a lot closer than far away.
 

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1. A RB being paid huge cap space.
2. A former great 38 year old TE on their roster for “sentimental reasons”.
3. (If we sign Cooper to a big deal) A WR eating big cap space.
4. A family run front office.

We at least have a new HC that has delivered a SB before.

Cooper in a Super Bowl would probably call in sick he’s as soft as they come.
 

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The Cowboys care about being the highest paid at their position as top priority.

Yep and In the area large contracts, the Cowboys have yielded dismal results on the filed.
 

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1. A RB being paid huge cap space.
2. A former great 38 year old TE on their roster for “sentimental reasons”.
3. (If we sign Cooper to a big deal) A WR eating big cap space.
4. A family run front office.

We at least have a new HC that has delivered a SB before.
But no HC has ever won an SB with one team and gone to another team and done the same (not even if they went back to their original team e.g. Joe Gibbs)
And with the Clampetts in charge in Dallas, I don’t see us being the first team to break the mould.
 

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Jason Witten is 37, and really since the Cowboys' season is over and he is an un‐restricted free agent, that won't be re-signed, what does it matter??

In fairness, that’s not certain either way.
 

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1. A RB being paid huge cap space.
2. A former great 38 year old TE on their roster for “sentimental reasons”.
3. (If we sign Cooper to a big deal) A WR eating big cap space.
4. A family run front office.

We at least have a new HC that has delivered a SB before.


- If that WR is balling, and showing up big and clutch vs big time competition, It’s irrelative how much cap space he’s eating up. And people continue to act like we are gonna be bankrupt or something .
But I have major issues if we are gonna overpay for a WR who will continue to go thru the motions and fade vs elite top CBs.
Have no problem paying out an elite WR that plays big on all critical levels. – Julio, Thomas, Tyrek, etc,.

- You mean we don’t already have a family run office with Jones and his sons ? (with Stephen Jerry Jr., not to mention Charlotte ?)

- Niners have a much stellar defense that prompt them to be in the super bowl – do we have that ?

- Niners have a much better coaching staff that help placed them in the SB – do we have that ?

- If Niners had a Zeke Elliott to “ feed” ( and assuming the HC does not abandon the run ) in not only better wearing down KC front down, but help that much more with controlling the clock
- keeping Mahomes off the field and lessen his touches, while scoring your points, do you think that would have better help their cause in this SB loss ?

- as you said in a way, the big hope is a new and established HC in McCarthy who dramatically changes the dynamics in just his first year.
 

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But no HC has ever won an SB with one team and gone to another team and done the same (not even if they went back to their original team e.g. Joe Gibbs)
And with the Clampetts in charge in Dallas, I don’t see us being the first team to break the mould.

Probably because those really great kind of HC's end up getting locked up for such a long term with one team, until they stop wanting to be HC's anymore.

even the great Bill Parcells (who won 2 SB with only NYG) and with all his various stops between Giants, Jets, Pats and Dallas, has not been be able to do so, with winning a
SB elsewhere.

Dynasty led Pats aside, winning a SB is proving quite a difficult feat, let alone just getting there, ..and that's all the more reason why we have to make every single playoff run count.
 

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And crybaby fans.

Seems we have more threads with fans crying and the usual we suck threads. And threads for love of what other teams are doing and what they have than ever before.

So actually all is the same. :lmao:

We have a new and an entire new coaching staff, with the exception of a few, which is what the fans wanted. But yet they still whine.
 

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1. A RB being paid huge cap space.
2. A former great 38 year old TE on their roster for “sentimental reasons”.
3. (If we sign Cooper to a big deal) A WR eating big cap space.
4. A family run front office.

We at least have a new HC that has delivered a SB before.
A General Manager that is the Owner and President and has not developed a Super Bowl Championship on his own and still has the title General Manager.

No accountability or responsibility but has power and authority.
 

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1. A RB being paid huge cap space.
2. A former great 38 year old TE on their roster for “sentimental reasons”.
3. (If we sign Cooper to a big deal) A WR eating big cap space.
4. A family run front office.

We at least have a new HC that has delivered a SB before.

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