What would it take to move up to #1 overall

[BrAinPaiNt]

@Risen Star and I was talking in another thread about the possibility of the Cowboys viewing only one of the QBs as a Franchise QB and the idea that we know that Cleveland will draft that very QB at #2.
Risen suggests we move up to #1 overall to bypass Cleveland to take the QB.

The question is...what would it realistically take to move from 4 to 1.

The old draft chart says that the #1 overall pick is 3000 points.

Our picks...

#4 - 1800
#34 - 560
#67 - 255
#98 - 108
#171 - 21.8

So even if we traded all of our picks this year, that does not get us to 3000 (can't trade the the sup picks so did not include them).

So...what would it realistically take to move up and chances are we would have to overpay value as we are the ones who want to move up?


And...if we could agree on a realistic trade proposal we would have to think about...would we (as fans or the team) do it.

 

[waving monkey]

Have heard everybody wants to trade down so in that low demand market
For a one this year and next

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I personally think the Titans want Tunsil and will not trade down and take a chance on loosing him unless they are well compensated and I don't think they trade away the 1st overall pick in the draft for under market value.

 

[egn22]

What separates Wentz from Lynch or Goff at this point?
Are you that sure about that difference that you're willing to give up prime draft picks?
I think I'd prefer the draft picks since I still actually have Romo.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

What separates Wentz from Lynch or Goff at this point?
Are you that sure about that difference that you're willing to give up prime draft picks?
I think I'd prefer the draft picks since I still actually have Romo.

None of us are sure.

This is purely a what if scenario.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Have heard everybody wants to trade down so in that low demand market
For a one this year and next

Most teams probably do want to trade down in this draft. The problem is when you start talking about trading up for a qb all it takes is one extra team to get in the mix for thing so get crazy. This could very easily turn into a bidding war between dallas and Cleveland for a franchise qb. And at #1 your not trading for a pick but your basically trading for a player. Once you say what do we give up to get Wentz draft charts go out the window. If I'm the titans Im looming for an rg3 type of return.

 

[egn22]

None of us are sure.

This is purely a what if scenario.

Yeah I gotcha. My question was more of a suggestion of what you'd need to consider when comparing the players. But yeah I can see how I'm a bit off subject. I'm horrible at the whole draft trade value thing. Reminds me of salary cap talk. I can't keep up!

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Most teams probably do want to trade down in this draft. The problem is when you start talking about trading up for a qb all it takes is one extra team to get in the mix for thing so get crazy. This could very easily turn into a bidding war between dallas and Cleveland for a franchise qb. And at #1 your not trading for a pick but your basically trading for a player. Once you say what do we give up to get Wentz draft charts go out the window. If I'm the titans Im looming for an rg3 type of return.

That is another scenario to take into account.

Cleveland finds out that Dallas is trying to jump them...because the Titans are smart enough to let them know...so a bidding war ensues.

 

[Risen Star]

You'd have to dip into future picks. I have no problem with that if my scouting department tells me this is our QB for the next decade.

I'd run that trade chart through the shredder though. If you're at 1 with your QB position already settled and a team at 4 calls you for the pick offering a 2, a 4 and a future 3 for the swap and you think there's a very good chance your guy is still there at 4, would you take it? I would. Trade chart be damned.

 

[sbark]

What separates Wentz from Lynch or Goff at this point?
Are you that sure about that difference that you're willing to give up prime draft picks?
I think I'd prefer the draft picks since I still actually have Romo.

Size........and Size matters . Goff is Steve Walsh V.2

 

[Stash]

Hypothetically of course, I think if Dallas wanted to and offed this year's and next year's #1 picks that it would be enough for the Titans.

I certainly wouldn't do that for a quarterback that no matter how you slice it, is not without some measure of question marks.

I don't see a "can't miss" guy anywhere in this draft, and if I'm giving up two first rounders, that's what I would have to be getting.

 

[Stash]

Size........and Size matters . Goff is Steve Walsh V.2

 

[Direwolf63]

One can only consider a move up if one is CLEARLY better than the other. And I just don't think that's the case. I haven't read anything that says that one is far ahead of the other overall.

 

[RoboQB]

@Risen Star and I was talking in another thread about the possibility of the Cowboys viewing only one of the QBs as a Franchise QB and the idea that we know that Cleveland will draft that very QB at #2.
Risen suggests we move up to #1 overall to bypass Cleveland to take the QB.

The question is...what would it realistically take to move from 4 to 1.

The old draft chart says that the #1 overall pick is 3000 points.

Our picks...

#4 - 1800
#34 - 560
#67 - 255
#98 - 108
#171 - 21.8

So even if we traded all of our picks this year, that does not get us to 3000 (can't trade the the sup picks so did not include them).

So...what would it realistically take to move up and chances are we would have to overpay value as we are the ones who want to move up?


And...if we could agree on a realistic trade proposal we would have to think about...would we (as fans or the team) do it.

I'd guess one would start by looking at the Commanders/Rams trade when Snyder was in love with RG3...
If Dallas were to do this, Wentz had better be the second coming of John Elway... very dumb move imo...
I watched his bowl game and senior week and the senior bowl... nice prospect... has promise... just way too much hype.
However, I will happily stand by the kid if he does become a Cowboy... but they had better get it right.

 

[RoboQB]

Great point made.... a picture is worth a thousand words... I don't think Brady hits the gym very much...lol

 

[sbark]

If Wentz measured and poked at the Senior bowl is 6'5".............goff isn't 6'4".......6'2.5" my guess patting the hair down, and then lets get his hand size also--23 fumbles last year and yet they talk about pocket presence as a strength of his........

 

[Stash]

If Wentz measured and poked at the Senior bowl is 6'5".............goff isn't 6'4".......6'2.5" my guess patting the hair down

Plenty tall enough to be successful.

 

[sbark]

Plenty tall enough to be successful.

Steve Walsh 2.0........with a lot less game savy coming out from a spread/system offense.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't see Dallas moving to the 1 spot, I could see them trading out of 4 getting the extra pick and still taking one of the 3 top QB in this draft.

 

[Chuck 54]

No way I want a QB at #4....I'd drop a load if we actually traded picks to move up for one.
In last year's draft, would any of this year's top 3 be selected ahead of either QB from last year?

I'm not taking a QB at the top who didn't do something really special with his team or have a college career that leads all the pundits to say he's among the best QBs taken top 5 every year.