What's worse, the Cowboys needing to trade for Josh McCown or Cleveland being scared to let him go?

[DFWJC]

And basically being told he can't beat out Kellen Moore, Prescott and Showers for snaps by the owner made that comfort level much more appealing.

He said he thought he had a better chance to start in KC.

 

[Denim Chicken]

You didn't read what I posted. I specifically said I don't care how good an old quarterback is or how great he can play, if Romo's out, we need to be trying out people who can not only help us now, but help us 3-5 years from now once Romo is gone. Hopefully Prescott, Showers, etc. will rise up in 2-3 years, but just in case that doesn't happen, we should use any Romo downtime to throw another potential solution into the mix, not a bandaid. We wasted all last season on two guys are not on the team any more. We cannot afford to do that this season or any season while Romo is our quarterback given his age and injury history.

It was different 3-5 years ago. Then, a Kitna type of player was great because Romo was coming back, if not that season, the next. Romo may want to play 10 more years, but quarterbacks tend to drop-off hard. It happened to Favre. It happened to Manning. One season they are playing like they're 10 years younger, then the next season, it's like they aged 10 years. We need to be looking for a quarterback who can win if he plays but also one who could be a starter for us in 3-4 years if our young guys do not work out.

The flip side to this argument, though, is that you could potentially be throwing away Romo's last opportunities to win by forfeiting a capable vet back-up for training reps for a potential future starter. If the Cowboys find themselves it a situation where Romo is out for a few games (which has been the cases in many seasons) and returning, those games could be the difference between getting him to the playoffs and sitting home.

 

[Reality]

The flip side to this argument, though, is that you could potentially be throwing away Romo's last opportunities to win by forfeiting a capable vet back-up for training reps for a potential future starter. If the Cowboys find themselves it a situation where Romo is out for a few games (which has been the cases in many seasons) and returning, those games could be the difference between getting him to the playoffs and sitting home.

I understand the argument, but the what-if scenarios can be quite varied. The way I look at it is they gambled the last two years and lost when Romo missed most of the season. You can take risks .. you have to some times. However, if you fail horribly on one of those risks, you have to play it smarter the next time. If we lose another year of Romo at quarterback, we need multiple options on the team to improve out chances of finding our next quarterback. While I am hopeful Prescott can be that guy, it wouldn't hurt to have a Glennon type of player in the mix as well just to increase the odds of success.

 

[Alexander]

He said he thought he had a better chance to start in KC.

That has nothing to do with what Jones said prior to Foles signing in KC. And unless Alex Smith is in some Andy Reid doghouse I am not aware of, that is more Foles fluff talking.

 

[LifetimeBoysFan]

Let's be real for a second we are replacing Kellen Moore. Not Tom Brady. They should have addressed this situation before Moore went down. Yeah, Prescott may turn into something down the road, but throwing him to the wolves this early in his career (great OL or not) just doesn't seem like the right fit. At this point we don't have an option for a Kosar or Beuerlein. In fact I don't know that anyone one like those were available even at the beginning of free agency. We are doomed if we think a fodder backup is the answer to salvaging our season if the 9 car is out. Let's be real, unless Prescott does have to play, and he turns into a rookie season like Wilson or Roethlisburger I am not too fond of our winning chances with a McCown or Freeman for multiple games. I saw that horror show last year. The evidence is there. Healthy Romo or Bust.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Yeah, because we had too many QBs and not enough snaps to go around. When Moore got injured that changed, but Foles opted to sign with the Chiefs.

Well, the Chiefs have 5 QBs (I think) on their roster now. It would seem like Alex Smith and Foles would get the majority of the snaps in practice. I have no idea what the other 3 Chief QBs are going to do other than stand around and watch. Maybe the Chiefs are going green and getting rid of their jugs machines. Kudos to them for saving energy.

 

[DFWJC]

That has nothing to do with what Jones said prior to Foles signing in KC. And unless Alex Smith is in some Andy Reid doghouse I am not aware of, that is more Foles fluff talking.

Hey, I'm just telling you the two reasons why they said went to KC.
1) familiarity with Reid and system
2) ability to actually eventually beat out the starter (did not say what year)

That's from them.
Anything else from you or me that is different than that is purely speculation

 

[Denim Chicken]

Well, the Chiefs have 5 QBs (I think) on their roster now. It would seem like Alex Smith and Foles would get the majority of the snaps in practice. I have no idea what the other 3 Chief QBs are going to do other than stand around and watch. Maybe the Chiefs are going green and getting rid of their jugs machines. Kudos to them for saving energy.

I wouldn't mind snagging Murray and letting the three battle it out.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

That has nothing to do with what Jones said prior to Foles signing in KC. And unless Alex Smith is in some Andy Reid doghouse I am not aware of, that is more Foles fluff talking.

I know. I was scratching my head at that one. The only way Foles starts in KC is if Alex Smith gets hurt, and an Alex Smith injury seems less likely than a Romo one. Foles is reuniting with his old head coach in KC and hence will know the system. That's why he's going there.

 

[Denim Chicken]

I know. I was scratching my head at that one. The only way Foles starts in KC is if Alex Smith gets hurt, and an Alex Smith injury seems less likely than a Romo one. Foles is reuniting with his old head coach in KC and hence will know the system. That's why he's going there.

He is probably thinking he can beat out Smith for #1. Much better chance of that happening than him beating out Romo.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

He is probably thinking he can beat out Smith for #1. Much better chance of that happening than him beating out Romo.

Marginally better chance, but Foles ain't beating out Smith. Smith is a good quarterback.

 

[Alexander]

I know. I was scratching my head at that one. The only way Foles starts in KC is if Alex Smith gets hurt, and an Alex Smith injury seems less likely than a Romo one. Foles is reuniting with his old head coach in KC and hence will know the system. That's why he's going there.

Plus they made it seem like he was wanted. It makes a difference more than you would think.

 

[kevm3]

Enough of the progress stoppers. Let's see what Showers or Prescott has. Get these guys reps.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Showers has nothing. I promise. Oh and my crystal ball says it will be hot today and tomorrow

 

[Idgit]

I'm shocked if Foles' decision were based on much other than money. Sure, it's nice to know the system and the coach if all things are equal. But Dallas is a perfect place to play for somebody in his position. A good place to learn, a quality starter on a team that should be in contention if and when he goes down. A good line and good skill positions to work with, and all the national spotlight and media attention you could want if you're trying to parlay the season into a long-term contract in one of the 4-5 starting jobs that are going to open up next season.

Bottom line is we clearly weren't all that interested in Foles (maybe because he's not a very good QB) and we didn't offer him very much money. He very likely took more short term money to be a backup in relative obscurity. Which is fine by me.

 

[Idgit]

Showers has nothing. I promise. Oh and my crystal ball says it will be hot today and tomorrow

You like to root for guys like Showers. But, yeah, they're a dime a dozen. Unless his learning curve is pointing straight up, he's got a long, long row to hoe.

This is a great opportunity for him right now, though. Let's hope he picked up enough last season to make things interesting.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

I'm shocked if Foles' decision were based on much other than money. Sure, it's nice to know the system and the coach if all things are equal. But Dallas is a perfect place to play for somebody in his position. A good place to learn, a quality starter on a team that should be in contention if and when he goes down. A good line and good skill positions to work with, and all the national spotlight and media attention you could want if you're trying to parlay the season into a long-term contract in one of the 4-5 starting jobs that are going to open up next season.

Bottom line is we clearly weren't all that interested in Foles (maybe because he's not a very good QB) and we didn't offer him very much money. He very likely took more short term money to be a backup in relative obscurity. Which is fine by me.

Is there any information out there on how much each team offered? You're right that money is important in the NFL. There's no way around it. However, it's not the only thing that's important. It helps a lot to already know a coach's system. If the Cowboys offered about the same amount as KC, I can see Foles preferring KC because of the scheme. Same deal even if the Cowboys only offered a little more. If the Cowboys offered a lot more, it would be surprising to see Foles turn it down. Players usually go for significantly higher pay.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

What's worse, The Cowboys needing to trade for Josh McCown, or Cleveland being scared to let him go?

Blokes! What is the current alternative to McCown?
Showers? Prescott? Manziel? Favre?
You experts need to talk a break and consider a battle tested QB. Like McCown. The others I give a quid to attend the middies show with fish and chips.