Whats your greatest team all-time from 1980-Now

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Forget the old farts with the leather helmets and minimal athleticism. So when putting this team together, yes there are some other players that might have been better like Sapp over Wilfork but I built this team as to how great the team would be together, not individually. Yes, one could really argue Emmitt over Barry too but Barry just could house it with not much on offense, couldn't imagine what he could do with this team.

QB Brady
RB Sanders
FB Johnston
WR Rice
WR Moss
WR Fitzgerald
TE Gronkowski
LT Munoz
LG McDaniel
C Matthews
RG Allen
RT Roaf

DE White
DE Smith
DT Donald
DT Wilfork
LB Taylor
LB Lewis
LB Brooks
CB Sanders
CB Woodson
CB Revis
FS Reed
SS Lott

K Vinatieri
P Lechler
KR/PR Hester
 

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Not too bad at all. But exchange Sanders at RB and put in Emmitt.

My homer pick is exchange Fitzgerald with Michael Irvin. His passion and toughness over the middle was great.
 

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All-time greatest in terms of careers or players at the peak?

If 'players at their peak', I'd consider:
  • Megatron, Michael Irvin, or Sterling Sharpe in ahead of Fitzgerald at WR
  • Ogden over Munoz OR Roaf
  • Any number of DT/NTs over Wilfork
  • Charles Woodson over Revis, heck maybe Charles Woodson over Rod Woodson. Maybe Daryl Green deserves consideration
  • Was peak Bruce Smith better than peak JJ Watt? Not so sure.
 

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Forget the old farts with the leather helmets and minimal athleticism. So when putting this team together, yes there are some other players that might have been better like Sapp over Wilfork but I built this team as to how great the team would be together, not individually. Yes, one could really argue Emmitt over Barry too but Barry just could house it with not much on offense, couldn't imagine what he could do with this team.

QB Brady
RB Sanders
FB Johnston
WR Rice
WR Moss
WR Fitzgerald
TE Gronkowski
LT Munoz
LG McDaniel
C Matthews
RG Allen
RT Roaf

DE White
DE Smith
DT Donald
DT Wilfork
LB Taylor
LB Lewis
LB Brooks
CB Sanders
CB Woodson
CB Revis
FS Reed
SS Lott

K Vinatieri
P Lechler
KR/PR Hester

Don’t know how you could compile an all time team and include Daryl Johnston and not Emmitt Smith. Johnston was a great blocking FB but there were far better overall FBs. I understand Barry Sanders was a great runner but Emmitt Smith still had more yards, more TDs and 3 Super Bowl rings. He was far better in the playoffs than Barry Sanders. In six playoff games Sanders only had one 100 yard rushing game.
 

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I'm taking T.O over Fitz. Just on raw stats, him and Moss are damn near equal. And I can't think of another receiver who could go all-out in a game (Super Bowl) six weeks after breaking a leg. T.O. was the toughest SOB I ever saw at the WR position.
 

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Don’t know how you could compile an all time team and include Daryl Johnston and not Emmitt Smith. Johnston was a great blocking FB but there were far better overall FBs. I understand Barry Sanders was a great runner but Emmitt Smith still had more yards, more TDs and 3 Super Bowl rings. He was far better in the playoffs than Barry Sanders. In six playoff games Sanders only had one 100 yard rushing game.
Emmitt played 15 years, Sanders 10. I think we all know that Barry had plenty left in the tank. Emmitt beats him by about 3,000 yards. Pretty sure Sanders gets more than that in five more years of playing. Emmitt averaged 81 yards per game, whereas Sanders averaged 99. That's a big gap. Emmitt also had a much better O-line and coaching. I have to go with Sanders.
 

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Emmitt played 15 years, Sanders 10. I think we all know that Barry had plenty left in the tank. Emmitt beats him by about 3,000 yards. Pretty sure Sanders gets more than that in five more years of playing. Emmitt averaged 81 yards per game, whereas Sanders averaged 99. That's a big gap. Emmitt also had a much better O-line and coaching. I have to go with Sanders.
I’d take Bo Jackson over both
 

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Emmitt played 15 years, Sanders 10. I think we all know that Barry had plenty left in the tank. Emmitt beats him by about 3,000 yards. Pretty sure Sanders gets more than that in five more years of playing. Emmitt averaged 81 yards per game, whereas Sanders averaged 99. That's a big gap. Emmitt also had a much better O-line and coaching. I have to go with Sanders.
emmitt avg about 91 ypg for his first 10 years. not a huge gap. Its not unreasonable to think that Sanders' avg would have dropped had he played 5 more seasons.
 

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Emmitt played 15 years, Sanders 10. I think we all know that Barry had plenty left in the tank. Emmitt beats him by about 3,000 yards. Pretty sure Sanders gets more than that in five more years of playing. Emmitt averaged 81 yards per game, whereas Sanders averaged 99. That's a big gap. Emmitt also had a much better O-line and coaching. I have to go with Sanders.

Naturally Sanders would’ve likely had more career rushing yards than Emmitt had he not retired prematurely. He was probably the greatest pure runner in NFL history but he wasn’t very good in the playoffs. He took a lot of losses inside the 10 yard line. He would jitter bug around trying to free himself which caused him to take big losses. He ran for -1 yard against Washington in the playoffs. His inability to make positive yardage near the goal line caused Detroit to take him out a lot of times. He couldn’t push the pile the way Emmitt could. Emmitt had two seasons where he scored 20+ TDs. He was outstanding near the goal line. He had what was then an NFL record 25 TDs in 1995. Sanders career high was 16 TDs.

Both Emmitt and Sanders are tied with four NFL rushing titles. Both won a league MVP award but Emmitt’s playoff performances along with his Super Bowl performances gives him the edge in my book. I get it that Emmett played behind arguably the greatest OL in NFL history. However he came out of a lot of piles to make outstanding runs when there wasn’t anything there. Granted Sanders did that as well but Emmitt is my choice.
 

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I'm taking T.O over Fitz. Just on raw stats, him and Moss are damn near equal. And I can't think of another receiver who could go all-out in a game (Super Bowl) six weeks after breaking a leg. T.O. was the toughest SOB I ever saw at the WR position.
Originally had TO but still a cancer who could ruin even a all time team.
 

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All-time greatest in terms of careers or players at the peak?

If 'players at their peak', I'd consider:
  • Megatron, Michael Irvin, or Sterling Sharpe in ahead of Fitzgerald at WR
  • Ogden over Munoz OR Roaf
  • Any number of DT/NTs over Wilfork
  • Charles Woodson over Revis, heck maybe Charles Woodson over Rod Woodson. Maybe Daryl Green deserves consideration
  • Was peak Bruce Smith better than peak JJ Watt? Not so sure.
Fitz was more for the slot, Ogden I can't argue, Wilfork might be the most underrated NT and would free up everyone else to tear apart offenses, Revis, Charles or Champ all in same boat. Smith 200 sacks insane and stacked the run real well.
 

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QB Peyton Manning (also considered Tom Brady)
RB Barry Sanders*
FB Da Moose*
WR Jerry Rice*
WR Randy Moss*
WR TO (also considered Calvin Johnson)
TE Rob Gronkowski*
LT Walter Jones (also considered Jonathan Ogden, Joe Thomas, and Munoz)
LG Bruce Matthews (also considered Steve Hutchinson and Alan Faneca)
C Dwight Stephenson*
RG Larry Allen
RT: Orlando Pace (there's so many good tackles, man!)

DE Reggie White*
DE Bruce Smith*
DT Aaron Donald*
DT John Randle (also considered JJ Watt)
LB Lawrence Taylor*
LB Ray Lewis*
LB Luke Kuechly (also considered Derrick Thomas... depends if you want a pass rusher)
CB Prime Time*
CB Darrell Green*
CB Champ Bailey (also considered Revis)
FS Ed Reed*
SS Troy Polamalu*

K Justin Tucker*
P Shane Lechler* (good thing the 2000s Raiders had an awesome punter)
KR Cordarrelle Patterson*
PR Devin Hester (also considered Dante Hall)



Stars are guys I consider to be The Dude with little debate. The other guys, you can make an argument for or against.

I already know I'm going to catch some heat for the Manning pick over Tom Brady, so let me explain. 2008-2013 PFM was the highest summit of QB play I have ever seen (Rodgers has visited there occasionally). IMO, he was robbed by being 2 years older than Brady and his neck injuries, which both cost him valuable seasons in the NFL's 2010s hyper-passing era.

We now watch a where Kirk Cousins can throw for 4000 yards regularly. Brady has cruised along in that era and put together good seasons, but the only times I've seen him hit that "tapping into the Matrix" level of play is the late 2010s. Same thing with Rodgers - he hits incredible peaks occasionally, but most of the time floats around the level of really good. Manning was just locked into super-screw you mode from 2008 on, and his neck was the only thing stopping that run of play from continuing.
 

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It would take less than 2 seasons of Emmitt or Barry to pass Bo Jackson's career production

If you could guarantee health I'd consider Bo. Tough to beat 5.4 ypc for a career. He was playing baseball, too.
 

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Greatest team as in to win the statistical championship or greatest team as to win a Super Bowl?
 
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