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Irvin88_4life

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Ehh it's not really bad luck when there's a pattern to it....Can't be surprised when stupid people do stupid things. Gregory and Ro were head cases from day 1, and Lawrence came with his own baggage(although not nearly as bad). The fact that all 3 are suspended really shouldn't be a surprise.

And please with Kellen Moore...his injury is about as insignificant as it gets. Sucks for him because it may have been his only shot, but him getting hurt has 0 impact on the team.
Really what baggage did Lawrence bring? And his suspension shouldn't be a surprise?
 

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Don't forget Bus accident

I was racking my brain trying to remember everything that has came out recently in a negative light, but I completely forgot about that. I feel kinda bad now...that should have probably been the first thing that came to mind.
 

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The negativity I remember most from 2014 prior to the season...

-Romo back surgery
-Three straight 8-8 years and Garrett retained
-Releasing DeMarcus Ware
-Losing Hatcher to the Skins
-Not drafting a QB with Romo back problems
-Not replacing Ware and Hatcher with a big name DE/DT (settling for Mincey, T McClain, Melton).
-Constant videos of Dez shouting at Witten in Detroit game and walking off field vs Green Bay (being labeled a crybaby)
-Sean Lee tearing ACL in minicamp
-Scandrick being suspended 4 games for popping "Molly" (reduced to 2 games)
-Defense being questioned not improving enough after being franchise worst in 2013.
-Trading for twice retired R. McClain (people saying Dallas was desperate and Ozzie fleecing Dallas.)
-Getting blown out by the 49ers in the season opener and having Romo throw 3 INTs including a pick six (people were really questioning passing on Manziel that week.)

And then things began to change when Dallas went to "Romo Wednesdays" when they'd give him the day off from that point going forward. I wanna say it started week 3 vs the Rams on forward.
 

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Do you know why he was suspended?

College is pretty vague with suspensions, think just the general "violation of team rules". Regardless, there's nothing good about being suspended 3 times in 2 years
 

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The negativity I remember most from 2014 prior to the season...

-Romo back surgery
-Three straight 8-8 years and Garrett retained
-Releasing DeMarcus Ware
-Losing Hatcher to the Skins
-Not drafting a QB with Romo back problems
-Not replacing Ware and Hatcher with a big name DE/DT (settling for Mincey, T McClain, Melton).
-Constant videos of Dez shouting at Witten in Detroit game and walking off field vs Green Bay (being labeled a crybaby)
-Sean Lee tearing ACL in minicamp
-Scandrick being suspended 4 games for popping "Molly" (reduced to 2 games)
-Defense being questioned not improving enough after being franchise worst in 2013.
-Trading for twice retired R. McClain (people saying Dallas was desperate and Ozzie fleecing Dallas.)
-Getting blown out by the 49ers in the season opener and having Romo throw 3 INTs including a pick six (people were really questioning passing on Manziel that week.)

And then things began to change when Dallas went to "Romo Wednesdays" when they'd give him the day off from that point going forward. I wanna say it started week 3 vs the Rams on forward.

Yeah, I've slept since then so I couldn't remember everything; I just recall there was a cloud of negativity associated with the Cowboys. You seriously remembered all that? Or did you use your Google lifeline?
 

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Yeah, I've slept since then so I couldn't remember everything; I just recall there was a cloud of negativity associated with the Cowboys. You seriously remembered all that? Or did you use your Google lifeline?

Nah I remembered
 

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I also forgot about Kyle Orton playing hardball with Jerry, not reporting to OTAs and minicamp while Romo was rehabbing his back. And didn't report to training camp, which ended up with Dallas releasing him and paying his full salary. Dude played Jerry and got a lot of media to poke fun at Dallas's expense.
 

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I don't know, I guess I see Moore going down as more of a positive than a negative because it's forcing them to bring in a real backup QB.

BTW, I am in no shape or form implying that I am glad he's hurt.

If there was ever an injury that was a blessing in disguise it's the injury to Moore. If his injury results in the acquisition of Foles, McCown or Glennon backing up Romo it will end up being a positive in my opinion. Luckily the injury happened early in camp giving us time to bring in another QB and get them up to speed with the offense.
 

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College is pretty vague with suspensions, think just the general "violation of team rules". Regardless, there's nothing good about being suspended 3 times in 2 years
He hasn't had any "team" issues since joining. Not only that he isn't suspended for weed with no prior record of drugs. Sorry I disagree with D Law being a character concern

Gregory, yea I agree with he has issues. I feel silly that I ever defended him against others that said he would mess up
 

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Let’s review:

Tank Lawrence suspended for 4 games. Randall Gregory suspended for 10-14 games. Rolando McClain suspended for 10 games and is likely to be released given his lack of participation in the offseason. Kellen Moore suffered a broken ankle and is likely now out for the year. And the fourth overall pick, Ezekiel Elliott, strained a hammy. Okay, so the last one isn’t exactly damning nor should it be considered the straw that broke the camel’s back, but still…c’mon…really? What the hell is going on here? Can the Cowboys catch a break (pipe down Kellen, you know I didn’t mean that type of break!)?

It is as if fate is conditioning the Cowboys faithful for what’s to come…more misery, consternation, and disappointment. Or is it simply getting all the negative stuff out of the way to make way for a positive future…a cosmic process of separating the wheat from the chaff? I do not lean one way or another; I do not profess to know fate’s plan or motivation in this world. I am merely an eyes-wide-open observer, constantly on the hunt for rhyme and reason in the life that surrounds me…but for the most part, that attention is devoted to our beloved Cowboys….your welcome.

And the one thing that encourages me, despite the aforementioned news, is the recollection of the offseason going into 2014. Remember? Demarcus Ware and Jason Hatcher left in Free Agency. Where will our pass rush come from? Remember? Romo’s back was a viral hash tag. Remember? OTA’s opened with Sean Lee being carted off the field for what would be the entire season. Remember? I am sure there were more…negative headlines poured from every possible sports media outlet in regards to our Cowboys and their dastardly expectations following 3 straight years of 8 and 8. Garrett was on the hot seat. Romo should retire. I’m sure there were some Dez is a headcase articles, as well, though I couldn’t recite any of them.

Damning? You would think so, but not even close. In fact, the Cowboys went on to post their best regular season record since 2007 (13 & 3)…and I’d argue that defense, as a whole, was far less potent than what the Cowboys will be fielding this year. Okay, maybe not far less but still, I submit to you that the 2016 defense will be stouter than the 2014 variety, which managed to do just enough, if not more, to help the Cowboys post a 12 and 4 record. I will also state that the Cowboys offense is also better than the 2014 iteration, if for no other reason, Zeke is a much more dangerous back with the ball in his hands than Murray. Runs where Murray was caught from behind would have been touchdowns for Zeke, in my opinion. As for the other attributes he seems to excel at over Murray, such as ball security, lateral agility, acceleration and pass blocking, I will reserve my ultimate judgment for when he is able to do it in the NFL…but for the moment, I think he is better in those attributes, as well.

But this is not another Zeke-fixes-everything thread…I’ve already contributed that thread at least three times using different wording and praises for our top pick in the 2016 draft. That ground is tilled, the seeds are sown, the rain has fallen and I’m seeing leaves poke their heads out of the ground getting ready to sprout and blossom in abundance…much like the green Zeke will frequently see with the best offensive line in football clearing a path for him (sorry, couldn’t help myself).

So then, what is this all about? The point is simple. Nothing that has happened thus far comes even close to damning 2016…the story that is the upcoming season is yet not written. Everyone’s clamoring for the Cowboys to mortgage their future to go and get a name…someone, anyone that has done it before. Therein is yet another key point. All those names that have done it before had a first time they did it in the NFL. First times of that nature happen every season for every team. So it’s not a stretch of the imagination to expect someone on the defensive side of the ball to emerge in the absence of names and pedigree. Football success, at the end of the day, is a measure of collective effort, not talent and/or genetics. The collective effort I speak of is not just on the gameday football field. No, I speak of the work our Cowboys are putting in now and what they will put in preparing for Sunday each week in the regular season. If they work harder than the opposition, then regardless of who shows up in a Cowboys uniform, I like the Cowboys chances of winning.

Of course, if Romo gets hurt, you can throw that Hallmark card in the trash; the story is written, signed, sealed and delivered, see you next year, go 2017 Cowboys.

Is this not the same email you do every single week? The only difference being that the list of things that you claim wont matter gets longer and longer?

The problem I have with these type of posts is that initially some of you claimed that we will be fine on defense because of guys like McClain at MLB, Gregory coming back and showing promise, Crawford finally healthy ect....ect.... Then McClain gets suspended and is toast, same with Gregory and Crawford is already injured again. But NOW.............it doesnt matter. No big deal right? Doesnt add up.

So many things have gone wrong already that if you really dont think they matter you are turning a blind eye.

Romos back is already acting up. Zeke is under investigation and has a hammy issue These could very well be nothing or they could be very very bad for things to come.

One thing is for certain is that Romo is a year older, and still has a bad back. No getting around it, the guy is old and brittle. And since most of your theory is centered around Romo staying healthy, it would appear that any theory on this team is brittle.

I wish it wasnt so.
 

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Is this not the same email you do every single week? The only difference being that the list of things that you claim wont matter gets longer and longer?

The problem I have with these type of posts is that initially some of you claimed that we will be fine on defense because of guys like McClain at MLB, Gregory coming back and showing promise, Crawford finally healthy ect....ect.... Then McClain gets suspended and is toast, same with Gregory and Crawford is already injured again. But NOW.............it doesnt matter. No big deal right? Doesnt add up.

So many things have gone wrong already that if you really dont think they matter you are turning a blind eye.

Romos back is already acting up. Zeke is under investigation and has a hammy issue These could very well be nothing or they could be very very bad for things to come.

One thing is for certain is that Romo is a year older, and still has a bad back. No getting around it, the guy is old and brittle. And since most of your theory is centered around Romo staying healthy, it would appear that any theory on this team is brittle.

I wish it wasnt so.


Oh there are similarities between my last several post and this one for sure...no question about it. But that is predominantly due to the fact that the media has been feeding us the same topic's repackaged and sold over and over throughout the offseason, so if you are wondering why I keep regurgitating the same thing, it is because I've been sustaining myself on the same topics. Anywho, the overall theme is that all of this, I believe, once the regular season get's underway, will be much ado about nothing. If you refuse to believe that or misery is the blanket you prefer to garner your warmth from, so be it...do you. And feel more than free to pee on future threads I contribute; I'm' a big boy, I can take it. But what I'm serving here is no placebo. It is the truth and if you can wrap your head around the fact that the Cowboys have a better shot at making noise this year then about 70% of the league you would understand how I am able to continue to be optimistic about the Cowboys future.
 

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Oh there are similarities between my last several post and this one for sure...no question about it. But that is predominantly due to the fact that the media has been feeding us the same topic's repackaged and sold over and over throughout the offseason, so if you are wondering why I keep regurgitating the same thing, it is because I've been sustaining myself on the same topics. Anywho, the overall theme is that all of this, I believe, once the regular season get's underway, will be much ado about nothing. If you refuse to believe that or misery is the blanket you prefer to garner your warmth from, so be it...do you. And feel more than free to pee on future threads I contribute; I'm' a big boy, I can take it. But what I'm serving here is no placebo. It is the truth and if you can wrap your head around the fact that the Cowboys have a better shot at making noise this year then about 70% of the league you would understand how I am able to continue to be optimistic about the Cowboys future.

Glad to hear you can take it. There are several on here that cant.

Your 70% theory is based on Romo being healthy for most of the season. Which there is no way that you can predict. If I had to guess, I would say its 50/50 that he plays 14 or more games. And that 70% is probably about down to 65 or 60% with all that has happened in the last month.

Im just being realistic here. Romo has to stay healthy and nearly everything else has to go right for the boys to make the playoffs and do some damage. And from where I am standing, everything else isnt going right at the moment. In fact, they appear to be doing just the opposite. I will be cautious and realistic until the team itself proves otherwise. I wont base my theories on everything going right. Because as you keep mentioning, that doesnt happen.
 
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