When they write that Romo hasn't proven he can win a big game...

[Hostile]

Tony won the game? Ooookay. This will no doubt come as news to our defense. Sarcasm aside, this ain't tennis. 53 men won the game last night, not just Tony. If you're not willing to solely blame him when things go wrong, then hold back on the credit.

100% agree, I think we all tend to give the QB more credit and far more blame than they deserve. I am guilty of that often.

I agree. This was a team win, Dallas fought tooth and nail with Philly. Romo played his part and did very well but it took a lot of guys stepping up and making plays both offense and defensively to win this game. I hope it continues. To me it is not about 1 guy it is about the Dallas Cowboys and when they put it all together I think the sky will be the limit for this team

With all due respect to the point being made and acknowledged, the OP did not diss the other 52 men on the roster. The fact of the matter is the criticism has been squarely on Tony Romo's shoulders. It has been there from the fans. It has been there from the media. All he did was defend the QB. Nothing sinister.

 

[bbgun]

With all due respect to the point being made and acknowledged, the OP did not diss the other 52 men on the roster. The fact of the matter is the criticism has been squarely on Tony Romo's shoulders. It has been there from the fans. It has been there from the media. All he did was defend the QB. Nothing sinister.

He didn't mention anyone other than Tony, so I wasn't imagining things when he gave Tony sole credit for the "big" win. The slight may have been unintentional, but it's there. People overreact just as frequently after a victory compared to a loss.

 

[LeonDixson]

Tony won the game? Ooookay. This will no doubt come as news to our defense. Sarcasm aside, this ain't tennis. 53 men won the game last night, not just Tony. If you're not willing to solely blame him when things go wrong, then hold back on the credit.

That' very true but the reverse logic applies also. If you are not willing to blame the whole team for losses in playoff games, then hold back on labeling Tony a choker who can't win the big games.

"Tony" did not lose that Giants playoff game. Others did.

 

[FLCowboyFan]

Remember this isn't a big game for two reasons:

1. It's only November, not December...

and

2. We won. Therefore it becomes "just another game"...

Sad but this is how the media will look at it.

I can already see the stories talking about how they has so many people out, they had new players in unfamiliar places, etc.

Juke.........thanks for this! Let's all remember this when the trolls come knocking

 

[Doomsday101]

With all due respect to the point being made and acknowledged, the OP did not diss the other 52 men on the roster. The fact of the matter is the criticism has been squarely on Tony Romo's shoulders. It has been there from the fans. It has been there from the media. All he did was defend the QB. Nothing sinister.

I agree. Romo has taken the brunt of the abuse from fans and critics. I think much of it underserved. Dallas has failed in some big games and late season games because the Dallas Cowboys did not play good enough to win them. For anyone to lay that at the feet of Romo is wrong in my view, it was not as if the team was playing great and Romo was costing them the fact is the team played poorly and lost. In this win and the last few wins Dallas has played great team football offensively and defensively and we have won games because of that. Romo can do his part but he needs others to step up so he can do his job.

 

[bbgun]

That' very true but the reverse logic applies also. If you are not willing to blame the whole team for losses in playoff games, then hold back on labeling Tony a choker who can't win the big games.

"Tony" did not lose that Giants playoff game. Others did.

A lot of people blamed Crayton for that loss, which is equally unfair.

 

[Doomsday101]

A lot of people blamed Crayton for that loss, which is equally unfair.

True but I don't see the media saying that Crayton can't win in dec and jan. What little heat he has taken does not compare with what Romo has taken. No doubt it is part of playing the QB position and in Dallas even more so.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

But that doesn't change how enormously important this game was...on the road...against a division rival...for first place.

I'd say it was a big game.

On the nosey

 

[Established1971]

Let's remember this one.

When December rolls around, the same garbage will be written...blah blah, Romo can't win the big one.

Simply not true.

December? Ive heard this all year long. Just listened to Eric Allen dismiss the Cowboys with the "do it in December" mantra. Its annoying but there is something to it. Romo does have something to prove, Wade too. I was thinking that McNabb is 1-4 in conference championship games. Why not be dismissive of his regular season for the same reason?

 

[bbgun]

True but I don't see the media saying that Crayton can't win in dec and jan. What little heat he has taken does not compare with what Romo has taken. No doubt it is part of playing the QB position and in Dallas even more so.

But I always hear how the Cowboys can't win in December. They don't just limit it to Tony or Crayton. The point remains that certain fans are inclined to give Tony sole credit for a victory yet spread the blame around after a loss.

 

[Doomsday101]

But I always hear how the Cowboys can't win in December. They don't just limit it to Tony or Crayton. The pint remains that certain fans are inclined to give Tony sole credit for a victory yet spread the blame around after a loss.

I'm talking overall the media has been quick to say Romo can't win in Dec and Jan not Dallas not Patrick Crayton but Tony Romo they put that on him. Some here do as well but you got to be kidding if you think any player has taken more heat than Romo for dec and jan failure. I do agree that QB's get way to much credit for wins but they also take way to much blame for loses.

 

[Hostile]

He didn't mention anyone other than Tony, so I wasn't imagining things when he gave Tony sole credit for the "big" win. The slight may have been unintentional, but it's there. People overreact just as frequently after a victory compared to a loss.

He didn't give him sole credit. Why do you need a strawman?

He's talking about one topic, not all topics. It honestly is not that hard to grasp.

 

[Juke99]

Tony won the game? Ooookay. This will no doubt come as news to our defense. Sarcasm aside, this ain't tennis. 53 men won the game last night, not just Tony. If you're not willing to solely blame him when things go wrong, then hold back on the credit.

But when he throws three ints vs the Giants, he LOST the game.

Great defense or not last night, if Romo was the choke artist some people make him out to be, he would have been able to lose the game easily. It's not as if the defense pitched a shutout and the final score was 3-0.

And ya know, Thank you. I was wondering why people at work kept looking at me oddly when I kept saying "Did you see the tennis match between the Cowboys and the Eagles last night?" Gosh if I only had your sage advice with me each day...no telling how far I could go in life.

 

[bbgun]

He didn't give him sole credit. Why do you need a strawman?

He's talking about one topic, not all topics. It honestly is not that hard to grasp.

He only mentioned Tony, so no "strawmen" are needed. Fans get a little too cocky after win and a little too morose after a loss, and this was a clear example of the former. It honestly is not that hard to grasp.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Actually, I wasn't wrong at all TD. I predicted the troglodyte responses and they have happened.

So anyone not agreeing with your assessment that this was a big game is suddenly reactionary?

One might make the argument that the opponents to the non-big game theory are trying to erode three years worth of December evidence the second week of November.

There is an undercurrent of irony here.

 

[jobberone]

I think any honest, level headed fan of the Dallas Cowboys knows that the "Big Game" saying is complete horse manure.

It's the ones who jump from bandwagon to bandwagon who say Romo's the best QB ever and then two weeks later want Kitna to be starting are the ones who say that.

I try to not discuss football with those types.

I agree it wasn't a must game. It was a need game. They needed to win that game to prove to themselves they were for real. Mission accomplished. It was a tough win with some golden moments.

But don't diminish how important the game was. That win probably assured us a playoff spot for us assuming we play the way we can down the line knowing who we have to play. No Dallas team has ever started 6-2 and failed to make the playoffs. That's no guarantee but it's reasonable.

 

[Hostile]

He only mentioned Tony, so no "strawmen" are needed. Fans get a little too cocky after win and a little too morose after a loss, and this was a clear example of the former. It honestly is not that hard to grasp.

I know none are needed. Why are you using one? Or are you going to sit there and in sobriety tell me that Romo not winning big games is not a topic? Because that was and is the point of Juke's thread. Not all this attempted diversion tactics.

 

[LeonDixson]

A lot of people blamed Crayton for that loss, which is equally unfair.

Not just Crayton although he played a big part in it. Fasano dropped an easy TD pass. Special teams gave up a long PR just before half-time and Jockstrap Reeves let the Giants bowl him over for a score. The refs kill one our drives by calling intentional grounding on Romo when he threw the ball away, but WAS NOT in danger of being sacked.

Yet people label Romo a choker because of that loss. It's simply not true and if you or others can't see that, then I don't know what to say.

 

[Hostile]

So anyone not agreeing with your assessment that this was a big game is suddenly reactionary?

One might make the argument that the opponents to the non-big game theory are trying to erode three years worth of December evidence the second week of November.

There is an undercurrent of irony here.

I'm not sure why this is so hard to grasp. I knew what kinds of reactions the topic would illicit and I predicted what type of reactions. What assessment did I make that someone else is not agreeing with?

The only irony is the belief that I have done or said anything other than predicted a reaction from a group based upon long experience with the reactions of said group.

 

[bbgun]

But when he throws three ints vs the Giants, he LOST the game.

Not at all. As terrible as he was that night, the secondary was even worse, and they were rightly excoriated for it. I'm not interested in "percentages" of blame. Maybe you are.

Great defense or not last night, if Romo was the choke artist some people make him out to be, he would have been able to lose the game easily. It's not as if the defense pitched a shutout and the final score was 3-0.

People expect him to thrive in November and he did, but he wasn't the only one who had a nice night. Tony would be the first one to humbly share the credit.

And ya know, Thank you. I was wondering why people at work kept looking at me oddly when I kept saying "Did you see the tennis match between the Cowboys and the Eagles last night?" Gosh if I only had your sage advice with me each day...no telling how far I could go in life.

Or you could do a better job of spreading the praise instead of carrying water for Tony. Just a thought.