When will Jerry Understand?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Let me restate this for you...when the head coach hires a consultant it is not a sign that the head coach does not belive in his abilities. Especially when the head coach has won three super bowls...understood?

When an owner hires one that means he does not think that either he, the owner, or they, the coaches, can do the job. Knowing Jerry, which do you think?

Does that clear it up, or do you need another whopps moment argueing a point that you clearly are not understanding?

And who was it that got Reeves to want to come. The Reeve's is here because Jerry has no faith argument is baseless. Jones didn't hire Reeves.... whoops there goes that theory.

 

[Quarterback Coach]

And who was it that got Reeves to want to come. The Reeve's is here because Jerry has no faith argument is baseless. Jones didn't hire Reeves.... whoops there goes that theory.

Wow...Jerry wanted to hire Reeves. They COULD NOT AGREE on a contract (probably a power issue, not monetary if I would guess)...How can you honestly feel that Jerry has faith in a coach when he wants to hire a consultant? Do you understand what a consultant does?

Seriously...do you understand what you are saying or are you just trying to play Devil's Advocate?

 

[khiladi]

maybe he wants to be as thorough and un-Jerry as possible in securing candidates for those openings

That was not the contention. The contention was the following:

Bill "Belichick" just lost his Offensive Coordinator and long time friend and General Manager, Scott Pioli.

It is completely ridiculous to compare what the Patriots did and what the Cowboys did.

You don't have to hire a consultant to fill those positions...

 

[Bob Sacamano]

That was not the contention. The contention was the following:



You don't have to hire a consultant to fill those positions...

a consultant also can deal with coaching hires

say he has outstanding connections among coaches, knows who is the hot commodity, the up-and-comer, etc. etc.

 

[khiladi]

Wow...Jerry wanted to hire Reeves. They COULD NOT AGREE on a contract (probably a power issue, not monetary if I would guess)...How can you honestly feel that Jerry has faith in a coach when he wants to hire a consultant? Do you understand what a consultant does?

Seriously...do you understand what you are saying or are you just trying to play Devil's Advocate?

Who said Jerry wanted to hire Reeves? Reeves hated Jerry ever since he fired Landry. What connection did Jerry have to Reeves, other than through Wade, who worked with Reeves in Atlanta and Denver, both as DC. It was Wade's ties with the special teams coach, who was the son-in-law of Dan Reeves, that brought Joe to the Cowboys.

Make no mistake about it. Reeves had an interest in the Cowboys because of Wade. Wade even mentioned that he would consult his friends that were respected coaches at the end of the season, like Marty, Marv Levy and Dan Reeves to see where they needed to change their approach.

The specialty of Reeves is offense, not defense. It is the very reason he was being interviewed in SF as an OC.

Reeves was here mot likely to put a check on the OC, not the head coach. Wade clearly didn't have faith in Jason Garrett.

 

[bbgun]

Ghostbusters: "Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say 'YES'!"

Valley Ranch: "Jerry, if Dan asks for $500K a year, a Lincoln Town Car, and the unilateral authority to cut two players from the team (no questions asked), you say 'YES'!"

 

[silver]

Who said Jerry wanted to hire Reeves? Reeves hated Jerry ever since he fired Landry. What connection did Jerry have to Reeves, other than through Wade, who worked with Reeves in Atlanta and Denver, both as DC. It was Wade's ties with the special teams coach, who was the son-in-law of Dan Reeves, that brought Joe to the Cowboys.

Make no mistake about it. Reeves had an interest in the Cowboys because of Wade. Wade even mentioned that he would consult his friends that were respected coaches at the end of the season, like Marty, Marv Levy and Dan Reeves to see where they needed to change their approach.

The specialty of Reeves is offense, not defense. It is the very reason he was being interviewed in SF as an OC.

Reeves was here mot likely to put a check on the OC, not the head coach. Wade clearly didn't have faith in Jason Garrett.

good points which explains why reeves is suddenly gone. whatever the reason was, this whole scenario stinks. jerry is going loco

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Wow...Jerry wanted to hire Reeves. They COULD NOT AGREE on a contract (probably a power issue, not monetary if I would guess)...How can you honestly feel that Jerry has faith in a coach when he wants to hire a consultant? Do you understand what a consultant does?

Seriously...do you understand what you are saying or are you just trying to play Devil's Advocate?

probably whatever. you have no idea who wanted what so quit acting like you do. i am very well aware of what i say and youll notice that most of it revolves around the fact that i dont simply accept the assumptions that people around here take for granted.

I don't know what happened. What I do know is that there is a sinlge report saying that Jerry wanted to have Reeves take more control and Reeves balked. Im not sure what I think about that but I am not willing to fill in the gaps with bull**** like I see everyone around here doing.

 

[Quarterback Coach]

Who said Jerry wanted to hire Reeves? Reeves hated Jerry ever since he fired Landry. What connection did Jerry have to Reeves, other than through Wade, who worked with Reeves in Atlanta and Denver, both as DC. It was Wade's ties with the special teams coach, who was the son-in-law of Dan Reeves, that brought Joe to the Cowboys.

Make no mistake about it. Reeves had an interest in the Cowboys because of Wade. Wade even mentioned that he would consult his friends that were respected coaches at the end of the season, like Marty, Marv Levy and Dan Reeves to see where they needed to change their approach.

The specialty of Reeves is offense, not defense. It is the very reason he was being interviewed in SF as an OC.

Reeves was here mot likely to put a check on the OC, not the head coach. Wade clearly didn't have faith in Jason Garrett.

I see your arguement, but let me ask you this? If you are giving Wade all the aforementioned "power," why not hire him as a coach? Wouldn't that be the best way to "check" the OC? Being a coach he would have game plan, and game day input...

He was being hired above Wade to watch over the whole picture at least from what I understand)...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

a consultant also can deal with coaching hires

say he has outstanding connections among coaches, knows who is the hot commodity, the up-and-comer, etc. etc.

this is what im talking about fill in the gaps with bull****.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

this is what im talking about fill in the gaps with bull****.

a consultant can have any number of responsibilities

unless you can describe his duties for him, be my guest

 

[Quarterback Coach]

I see your arguement, but let me ask you this? If you are giving Wade all the aforementioned "power," why not hire him as a coach? Wouldn't that be the best way to "check" the OC? Being a coach he would have game plan, and game day input...

He was being hired above Wade to watch over the whole picture at least from what I understand)...

Of course it doesn't matter now anymore does it...oh, and i say this AS I AM WATCHING BIG BEN AND SANTONIO SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DISNEYWORLD!!! Great...love where we are now...thanks Jerry.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

a consultant can have any number of responsibilities

unless you can describe his duties for him, be my guest

Youll notice I am not guessing here. You are.

What we know.

The Patriots hired a consultant.

The Cowboys were looking at hiring a consultant.

ALl the rest is pie in the sky nonsense.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Youll notice I am not guessing here. You are.

What we know.

The Patriots hired a consultant.

The Cowboys were looking at hiring a consultant.

ALl the rest is pie in the sky nonsense.

no, because consultants can have a variety of responsibilities that are open to any interpretation, unless they are clearly defined

and no 2 consultants have the same, exact responsibilities as the other, so comparing our and their situation is guessing just as hard

 

[Quarterback Coach]

Youll notice I am not guessing here. You are.

What we know.

The Patriots hired a consultant.

The Cowboys were looking at hiring a consultant.

ALl the rest is pie in the sky nonsense.

You have a good point.

The Cowboys and their front office and coaches are certainly on par with New England. This was obviously by the way the two teams were prepared as their starting QBs went down. And how the teams prepare for games, and how they both seem to get the most out of their talent. It's like we are twins!!!

 

[yimyammer]

Youll notice I am not guessing here. You are.

What we know.

The Patriots hired a consultant.

The Cowboys were looking at hiring a consultant.

ALl the rest is pie in the sky nonsense.

Are you an atheist?