Where do you download your music....legally?

Well to be honest, not all musicians are multimillionaires.. So every dollar counts when you're collecting royalties.

...all the one who have to worry about illegal downloading are. Musicians just starting out (when it's still about the music) would be stoked just to have their material heard.
 
...all the one who have to worry about illegal downloading are. Musicians just starting out (when it's still about the music) would be stoked just to have their material heard.

In the beginning, maybe. But eventually, they all want to get paid. You don't get fed off pats on the back.
 
In the beginning, maybe. But eventually, they all want to get paid. You don't get fed off pats on the back.

Agree, but my point: if they are popular enough to have to worry about illegal downloads, then they are already paid. Artist make most of their money from touring anyhow.
 
Agree, but my point: if they are popular enough to have to worry about illegal downloads, then they are already paid. Artist make most of their money from touring anyhow.

I agree on artists pay, but artists aren't always the people writing/producing the songs either. Popular artists may get a writer's or producer's credit, but they're really not the writer or producer on the song. Classic example would be Rihanna. She has 7 albums in 7 years, and probably 7 world tours. I question how many songs she actually wrote in that span. She almost has to grind for those CDs to make real money.

In general, tho. My point was based on the up and coming artist who is thankful for all praise initially... until they get a taste of success. Then they want their money.
 
I agree on artists pay, but artists aren't always the people writing/producing the songs either. Popular artists may get a writer's or producer's credit, but they're really not the writer or producer on the song. Classic example would be Rihanna. She has 7 albums in 7 years, and probably 7 world tours. I question how many songs she actually wrote in that span. She almost has to grind for those CDs to make real money.

In general, tho. My point was based on the up and coming artist who is thankful for all praise initially... until they get a taste of success. Then they want their money.

The money comes from touring, not record sales for most.

The real point here is that if you want to support an artist, download or stream or whatever -- but make sure you show up when they play a show and make sure you buy some merch.
 
The money comes from touring, not record sales for most.

The real point here is that if you want to support an artist, download or stream or whatever -- but make sure you show up when they play a show and make sure you buy some merch.
Yes, I understand that artists (who don't write/produce) make their money off tours and other ventures.

The real money from music goes to writers/producers/record labels.
 
Yes, I understand that artists (who don't write/produce) make their money off tours and other ventures.

The real money from music goes to writers/producers/record labels.

The real money from music goes to record labels.

Writers/Producers earn very little comparatively
 
The real money from music goes to record labels.

Writers/Producers earn very little comparatively
We're not exactly disagreeing, ya know. The music money hierarchy goes like this

Record label > producer > writer > artist

Granted there are some other folks that could get a percentage, too. Engineer, arranger, etc. But for simplicity, that's the money hierarchy.
 
We're not exactly disagreeing, ya know. The music money hierarchy goes like this

Record label > producer > writer > artist

Granted there are some other folks that could get a percentage, too. Engineer, arranger, etc. But for simplicity, that's the money hierarchy.

No, the hierarchy goes like that when the Producer is a big name person brought in to produce a top name. It certainly doesn't go like that for 99.9% of most works.
 
No, the hierarchy goes like that when the Producer is a big name person brought in to produce a top name. It certainly doesn't go like that for 99.9% of most works.

I'm just going to disagree, because I know what I know based on personal experience. But debating this point to the nth isn't that serious for me.
 
I'm just going to disagree, because I know what I know based on personal experience. But debating this point to the nth isn't that serious for me.

you are likely confusing movie producer type roles (i.e., funding a project) with music production. If a music producer is bankrolling a project, paying for recording, etc. then yes, it would be the situation you describe.
 
I had a site I once went to, but it seems it's no longer available for downloads.

So now I'm searching for alternatives..

I'm aware of iTunes, but I don't have any apple products, so what other music store downloads can you go to to download music?

Amazon sells mp3's and have been able to find "some" independent artists on there you wouldn't find on iTunes.
 
Forget this new fangled interweb thingy. Get a good, portable 8-track player. That's all you need. Now get off my lawn you kids!
don't forget the butter knife to stick under the tape so it will play right/
 

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