Where is OT Rob Pettiti?

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mickgreen58;1210902 said:
So I am guessing that the fact that he gave up the most Sacks at his position in the NFL last year had nothing to do with it?

Not trying to bash because I have been defending the guy in this thread but passing the criticism off as jealousy is a bit odd.


It's perfectly logical when you search this site for "Where's Torrin Tucker?" threads.

He was worse last season but the ignorant tools don't attack him because his father never openly posted here. Some single-digit IQ posters hated the fact that someone had an "in" with the Cowboys that they could never even dream of having and it showed with some of the BS posts over the last year and a half.
 

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StanleySpadowski;1211124 said:
It's perfectly logical when you search this site for "Where's Torrin Tucker?" threads.

He was worse last season but the ignorant tools don't attack him because his father never openly posted here. Some single-digit IQ posters hated the fact that someone had an "in" with the Cowboys that they could never even dream of having and it showed with some of the BS posts over the last year and a half.

That's not true. The reason no one ever posts a "Where's Torrin Tucker?" thread is because he wasn't a rookie with upside last year. He was a veteran player who was just bad. He also isn't playing for the team that we play against this week.
 

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StanleySpadowski;1211124 said:
It's perfectly logical when you search this site for "Where's Torrin Tucker?" threads.

He was worse last season but the ignorant tools don't attack him because his father never openly posted here. Some single-digit IQ posters hated the fact that someone had an "in" with the Cowboys that they could never even dream of having and it showed with some of the BS posts over the last year and a half.

The reason you don't see TT threads is because nobody, including fans, expected him to be much of anything other than a warm body. Petitti, at least, showed promise in college and was competive in camp.
 

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StanleySpadowski;1211124 said:
It's perfectly logical when you search this site for "Where's Torrin Tucker?" threads.

Guess that has nothing to do with us playing the Saints this week.
 

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It does seem that Pittdawg is blaming BP; though it could be the line coach.
I think BP had a hard choice to make since we had to keep 2 kickers and some extra WR's. If not for that I think Rob is still with us. McQ looked very promising for LT, so we could not let him go. Columbo was looking good at RT, and Fabini had a lot of experience. I think Fabini was going to stick around as insurance unless he truly absolutely stank. Therefore it came down to Columbo vs Petitti; and Columbo looked better. Petitti was not eligible for the practice squad so that pretty much sealed his fate. Switiching him to guard may be something NO might do as well. I think BP would have kept Rob if he could have- but due to needs in other positions he could not keep 5 tackles on the roster.
 

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Zimmy Lives;1211156 said:
The reason you don't see TT threads is because nobody, including fans, expected him to be much of anything other than a warm body. Petitti, at least, showed promise in college and was competive in camp.


That's selective memory at its best.

Tucker was probably more heralded coming out of college, rated as high as the #3 guard prospect by some sites, and many, many people proclaimed him to be one of the best UDFA "steals" ever. Read some of the hype that surrounded him by searching the archives.
 
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Chocolate Lab;1211050 said:
So he's getting better coaching yet playing less in New Orleans?

That says a lot about our tackles last year, doesn't it.

I think it's cool that a player's dad posted here, but it doesn't make that player a better football player than he was. Colombo is better now, Fabini is better veteran insurance, and McQuistan is a much better long-term prospect. There's no more to it than that.

Agreed! Colombo is the starting right tackle for years to come and it isn't close after him. Every game the guy is getting better, pretty amazing how people forgot he was a 1ST ROUND pick! No offense to Petiti but the guy doesn't have good footwork or lateral movement....
 

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StanleySpadowski;1211279 said:
That's selective memory at its best.

Tucker was probably more heralded coming out of college, rated as high as the #3 guard prospect by some sites, and many, many people proclaimed him to be one of the best UDFA "steals" ever. Read some of the hype that surrounded him by searching the archives.

And Petitti was once considered a second round draft choice before he got out of shape his senior year. What is your point?
 

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Kittymama;1211121 said:
I'm glad to see you back & hope the best for Rob. However, I'll respectfully point out that the coach you're not fond of is the reason Rob even is in the NFL. He took on Rob & let him play all one season. It's questionable whether Rob would have gotten a similar shot with another team. He also got the exposure to Payton which resulted in Rob now being with another team, whereas he could well be out of football forever. You may not like him, but having had Bill Parcells as a HC is something pretty good on a player's resume. The fact that he's not playing in NO may also mean that he's not where he should be, & perhaps another reason he was released. All players develop at their own speed, & Rob may well develop into a terrific player. I hope he's able to follow his dream & play in the NFL for many years. Yes, I'm a homer, but I do think Parcells is a big reason Rob has had the dream this far. Two years in the NFL (so far) is two more than many people ever get.

It reeks of sour grapes. I distinctly recall a lot of respect towards Coach Parcells when Petitti was starting, but when he was cut it turned catty? I don't quit understand that.
 

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StanleySpadowski;1211124 said:
Some single-digit IQ posters




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Look I can see both sides here, but the fact is that our o-line shows up this year, in fact most of the wiffs lately that I can see are from the TE position, neither of them can block worth beans. Good to hear from Pittdawg. No one is a failure that makes a 53 man roster in the NFL, do you guys know how many people would give their left one just for one day or one game. Its true he may not be playing but man he's in the NFL, he's made two seasons almost. The thing that gets me about the Saints is how they looked absolutely abysmal in preeason and after they got all our cast off linebackers they got so much better. What really bugs me is that they didn't move to San Antonio. I spent some time on the riverwalk last fall with a lot of Saints fans who were Katrina people, they have class, are alot of fun to be around.the good news is we would have had blackout issues that we don't have in Austin now..
 

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Alexander;1211310 said:
It reeks of sour grapes. I distinctly recall a lot of respect towards Coach Parcells when Petitti was starting, but when he was cut it turned catty? I don't quit understand that.

you appear to be too smart to act so dumb. obviously i'm refering to things said, then not honored. i have direct knowledge of these things so i would expect the benefit of the doubt but i guess i can't get that. i never said that rob was better than anyone. i just have a problem when an assurance is made than broken and the hc can't even face the player who gave over and above while playing hurt for this team. if that is sour grapes, so be it.
 

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pittdawg;1211427 said:
you appear to be too smart to act so dumb. obviously i'm refering to things said, then not honored. i have direct knowledge of these things so i would expect the benefit of the doubt but i guess i can't get that. i never said that rob was better than anyone. i just have a problem when an assurance is made than broken and the hc can't even face the player who gave over and above while playing hurt for this team.
On points like that, I agree with you 100%, Pittdawg. Assuming you are talking about Parcells, I think things like not informing vets they will be inactive other than by letting them find an empty locker is very bush league. Maybe not material to the product put on the field, but still bush league.
 

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BARRYRAY;1211398 said:
Its true he may not be playing but man he's in the NFL, he's made two seasons almost.

The Saints picked up Pettitti for depth and to develop him for the future. Why not take a flyer on a guy who has starting experience in the NFL and has shown at least some flashes during his playing time? Jon Stinchcomb has started all year for the Saints after missing all of the 2005 season with a patellar tendon injury in what many Saints fans think is quite a nice surprise.

BARRYRAY;1211398 said:
The thing that gets me about the Saints is how they looked absolutely abysmal in preeason and after they got all our cast off linebackers they got so much better.

I agree, the Saints didn't exactly look strong against the Cowboys in the preseason, but the preseason was just that. Those "cast off" linebackers that the Saints are playing (Fujita, Simoneau, Shanle) have played relatively well all year (Fujita is really playing at a Pro Bowl level - 77 tackles, 2.5 sacks, 2 INTs, 6 passes defensed) took a little bit of time to get things together, especially since two of them were picked up DURING THE PRESEASON.

Furthermore, are the two teams really the same since the preseason? I believe Brees has come on very well, Deuce's running has improved, and Bush is now running with both authority and speed.

... and, um, don't the Cowboys have a different starting QB? I think I heard something about it on the television... every 30 seconds. Obviously, every team changes from the preseason to the regular season. Oakland was 4-1, after all.

BARRYRAY;1211398 said:
What really bugs me is that they didn't move to San Antonio. I spent some time on the riverwalk last fall with a lot of Saints fans who were Katrina people, they have class, are alot of fun to be around.the good news is we would have had blackout issues that we don't have in Austin now..

ARE YOU SERIOUS? It "bugs you" that the Saints didn't move to San Antonio? You would take away a team away from a city that has sold out the entire season for the FIRST TIME ever?!? That has shown amazing support? That has fans that LIVE AND DIE WITH THEIR TEAM?!?!?!? ... and give that team to SAN ANTONIO?

Perhaps you should consider thinking about what you type before you type it, sir.
 

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pittdawg;1211427 said:
you appear to be too smart to act so dumb. obviously i'm refering to things said, then not honored. i have direct knowledge of these things so i would expect the benefit of the doubt but i guess i can't get that. i never said that rob was better than anyone. i just have a problem when an assurance is made than broken and the hc can't even face the player who gave over and above while playing hurt for this team. if that is sour grapes, so be it.

Well, you can or you can't depending upon who you ask. But, if you can't, it's also fair to assume why you can't is because people only have one side of the story - yours - and they don't even really have that. Just suggested innuendo that someone (your son) was wronged in some way that was unreasonable according to a justification that isn't out in the open.
 

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pittdawg;1211427 said:
you appear to be too smart to act so dumb. obviously i'm refering to things said, then not honored. i have direct knowledge of these things so i would expect the benefit of the doubt but i guess i can't get that. i never said that rob was better than anyone. i just have a problem when an assurance is made than broken and the hc can't even face the player who gave over and above while playing hurt for this team. if that is sour grapes, so be it.

You hear all the time that people believe they were promised or entitled to something and yet were shocked and amazed when it didn't work out. I have told people things that I "hoped" would work out, yet when they did not, they recalled me making some sort of promise. I have had bosses of mine do that. And after I had time to reflect, I didn't carry the initial bitterness forward while at the same time understanding the nature of the business. It is just like being told you are in line for a promotion, and getting passed over. Eventually, there is usually a logical reason and much less of the emotional baggage you initially thought of. The idea is to learn from it and not act petulant. If you do, then it does sound like nothing was learned and it does reek of sour grapes.

If you would care to divulge more information, it might help understand the ill will.
 

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from the
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Marc Colombo has not given up a sack this season. He is getting better and uses his hands very well. He has an Erik Williams nasty attitude. He gets his hands on them and they are neutralized. We struggled there for the last few years and things did not work out when we did not do a good job in the draft or free agency. You have to pay usually to get there. It is good to have him and we are fortunate.
 

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yesfan;1211712 said:
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Marc Colombo has not given up a sack this season.

A totally inaccurate statement.
 

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That's what Jerry said.I could be wrong,but i thought he gave
up one during the 1st Giant game.
 

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yesfan;1211754 said:
That's what Jerry said.I could be wrong,but i thought he gave
up one during the 1st Giant game.

No, not in the Giants game. Strahn got 2 sacks in that game, one was a blown assignment by Bledsoe, Per parcells, and other sack Strahn looped inside and should have been picked up by the Center or Guard. I can not remember exactly which gap Lavar shot on the safety, so that might be one.. but its hard to say because we don't know what the line protection calls were and what the assignments were for each player.
 
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