Where is OT Rob Pettiti?

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pittdawg;1210742 said:
yes it's true that he has been inactive all season, but he is on the 53 man roster and he is benefitting from some pretty good line coaching, something he needed and didn't get last year.

i know rob stumbled badly at the end of last season, for more than one reason, but i noticed that this years sacks, without rob, were very similar to last year before bledsoe was cast aside and romo came in to save the season.

in any case i'm sure rob will be fine and playing again soon. good luck, it looks like you guys are firing on all cylinders now.
Romo rode the bench his first 3.5 seasons .. amazing how that turned out.

So many fans now expect players to be all-pros their first year .. no sense of reality (pun intended).

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Doomsday;1210827 said:
Im sorry but he got the same line coaching as Colombo, Gurode and others that improved quite a bit from last season. I wish Rob the best of luck because he was thrown into a tough situation last year, with that said there are some sour grapes trying to blame our coaching staff because he was beat out. Rob was given every chance to win the spot in training camp but wasnt able to do so.

no sour grapes just making a point that many have made here right up until romo took over. also, how do you say he was given every chance to win a spot when after two days of camp he was relegated to third string rt or lt and had his reps reduced to almost zero. when continually questioned by the press why rob wasn't getting more time, parcells only said i know what he can do.

that's all water under the bridge and i don't harbor ill feelings about his situation. his time in dallas was fun and rob has nothing to be sorry for.
 

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Reality;1210830 said:
Romo rode the bench his first 3.5 seasons .. amazing how that turned out.

So many fans now expect players to be all-pros their first year .. no sense of reality (pun intended).

-Reality

In reality if Petitti had shown the team the type of long term potential that Romo did they would of held onto him. BP felt like McQuistan and Colombo had more upside which left Petitti the odd man odd.
 

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Doomsday;1210827 said:
Im sorry but he got the same line coaching as Colombo, Gurode and others that improved quite a bit from last season. I wish Rob the best of luck because he was thrown into a tough situation last year and he is a hard worker so its hard not to root for him. With that said there are some sour grapes trying to blame our coaching staff because he was beat out. Rob was given every chance to win the spot in training camp but wasnt able to do so.

Actually, before Romo entered the lineup the only consistent player on the offensive line was probably Kyle Kosier.

Go watch the Philly and 1st Giants game.

Matt Mosely talked about when Bledsoe was in the lineup, the members of the offensive line would hide and not talk to the press, but when Romo started playing, they opened up to the media.

I wasn't a Rob Petitti fan, but I think he would play better than he did last year with Romo in the lineup.

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Colombo and Gurode has been solid all season, with the exception of the Philly game for Gurode and the first Giants game for Colombo. The decicision was made long before the season started, for whatever reason BP wanted to go in a different direction and I trust his experience.
 

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Doomsday;1210845 said:
In reality if Petitti had shown the team the type of long term potential that Romo did they would of held onto him. BP felt like McQuistan and Colombo had more upside which left Petitti the odd man odd.

Yes and no.

Matt Lehr was let go, mainly because he was too small and really didnt have a true position and he has started for the Falcons line (the one that has led the league in Rushing 2 years straight) for the last 2 years.

Nobody is crying that Petitti is not here but it is always "2 sides" to every story.

- Mike G.
 

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pittdawg;1210742 said:
yes it's true that he has been inactive all season, but he is on the 53 man roster and he is benefitting from some pretty good line coaching, something he needed and didn't get last year.

i know rob stumbled badly at the end of last season, for more than one reason, but i noticed that this years sacks, without rob, were very similar to last year before bledsoe was cast aside and romo came in to save the season.

in any case i'm sure rob will be fine and playing again soon. good luck, it looks like you guys are firing on all cylinders now.

I meant no disrespect to Rob. I was one of his biggest supporters while he was with Dallas.
 

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Doomsday;1210845 said:
In reality if Petitti had shown the team the type of long term potential that Romo did they would of held onto him. BP felt like McQuistan and Colombo had more upside which left Petitti the odd man odd.

Not necessarily true. Parcells made it a point in his press conference that he had a hard decision to make, and although he didn't state it specifically, he was referring to holding onto Fabini over Petitti. I'm sure he saw upside in Petitti and would have liked to have kept him, but felt he needed more developing, and had to weigh that against the veteran experience Fabini provided in case of injury.

I do agree with the latter statement though, and I don't agree with pittdawg on blaming the coaching staff.
 

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mickgreen58;1210853 said:
Yes and no.

Matt Lehr was let go, mainly because he was too small and really didnt have a true position and he has started for the Falcons line (the one that has led the league in Rushing 2 years straight) for the last 2 years.

Nobody is crying that Petitti is not here but it is always "2 sides" to every story.

- Mike G.

and Lehr got popped for roids also :D
 

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Doomsday;1210850 said:
Colombo and Gurode has been solid all season, with the exception of the Philly game for Gurode and the first Giants game for Colombo.

Yeah, Jacksonville's D-Line was banged up, Tennessee and the Skins absolutely blow.

So that leaves the Gints and Philly as the teams we played with Bledsoe that could muster a really good pass rush.

Do some searching on this thread, there was quite a bit of mumbling about the Offensive Line when Bledsoe was under center.

You know this DD :D .

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mickgreen58;1210861 said:
Yeah, Jacksonville's D-Line was banged up, Tennessee and the Skins absolutely blow.

So that leaves the Gints and Philly as the teams we played with Bledsoe that could muster a really good pass rush.

Do some searching on this thread, there was quite a bit of mumbling about the Offensive Line when Bledsoe was under center.

You know this DD :D .

- Mike G.

It was mostly unfounded, though. If people were really paying attention, they could see how much better the Oline was performing. Bledsoe was just performing that much worse. Those faulting the Oline early were just expecting them to perform at an unreasonable level.
 

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Doomsday;1210845 said:
In reality if Petitti had shown the team the type of long term potential that Romo did they would of held onto him. BP felt like McQuistan and Colombo had more upside which left Petitti the odd man odd.
Don't be so limited ..

Sometimes, players are released for other reasons. A good example is Shanle .. Parcells realized he was better suited for a 4-3 defense than a 3-4 defense. Just because Parcells traded him away didn't mean he didn't think he was a good player. In fact, just the opposite .. he kept complimenting Shanle for weeks after he was traded to the Saints.

Oh, and I'm not saying Petitti is better than Columbo or McQuistan, just that because he was released does not mean he was a bad player. It very well could be that Parcells thought Petitti was two years away from being where he needed to be and Columbo and McQuistan would be ready sooner.

I want to see all of our draft picks do well even ones we release or trade away. Why? Simple .. because the Cowboys drafted them and I want to see some results from it even if it's on another team a few years down the road.

That being said, I don't want to see them do well AGAINST the Cowboys :)

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mickgreen58;1210853 said:
Yes and no.

Matt Lehr was let go, mainly because he was too small and really didnt have a true position and he has started for the Falcons line (the one that has led the league in Rushing 2 years straight) for the last 2 years.

Nobody is crying that Petitti is not here but it is always "2 sides" to every story.

- Mike G.

Your right there are 2 sides to every story just like one can argue that Atlanta's rushing numbers are inflated each year by Vick's rushing. Also just because Lehr is playing well in Atlanta doesnt mean he fits our scheme. No one is going to be 100% right in their talent evalutions, you have to go with your gut.
 

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Don't be so limited ..

Sometimes, players are released for other reasons. A good example is Shanle .. Parcells realized he was better suited for a 4-3 defense than a 3-4 defense. Just because Parcells traded him away didn't mean he didn't think he was a good player. In fact, just the opposite .. he kept complimenting Shanle for weeks after he was traded to the Saints.

Oh, and I'm not saying Petitti is better than Columbo or McQuistan, just that because he was released does not mean he was a bad player. It very well could be that Parcells thought Petitti was two years away from being where he needed to be and Columbo and McQuistan would be ready sooner.

I want to see all of our draft picks do well even ones we release or trade away. Why? Simple .. because the Cowboys drafted them and I want to see some results from it even if it's on another team a few years down the road.

That being said, I don't want to see them do well AGAINST the Cowboys :)

-Reality

I agree with you 100% and I never said he was a bad player I just dont think its right to say he didnt get any coaching here in Dallas. I actually wish him well, he obviously worked really hard in the offseason to improve his strength and conditioning and I respect that. I just think BP wanted to go in a different direction, which he has the right to do.
 

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Doomsday;1210867 said:
Your right there are 2 sides to every story just like one can argue that Atlanta's rushing numbers are inflated each year by Vick's rushing. Also just because Lehr is playing well in Atlanta doesnt mean he fits our scheme. No one is going to be 100% right in their talent evalutions, you have to go with your gut.

That is what I just said, Lehr was too small and Al Johnson came back from injury.

It is all speculation, but I dont think it is unreasonable to say that Petitti would play better than 2005 with Romo as his quarterback.

I mean, his performance in 2005 was dreadful, even with Witten helping, so there was only one way to go, Up!!!

Where is the guy on here who has a sig of a Moat, a Fence and 11 Blockers helping to protect Drew Bledsoe when you need him :D .

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Doomsday;1210850 said:
Colombo and Gurode has been solid all season, with the exception of the Philly game for Gurode and the first Giants game for Colombo. The decicision was made long before the season started, for whatever reason BP wanted to go in a different direction and I trust his experience.
It's hard to use Columbo and Gurode as a good example though. Up until this year, Gurode was considered a bust by many. For some reason, the light turned on and he's been solid. Columbo was a 1st round draft pick who suffered from injuries. It took years for both of them to really get it going...and it's nice to see.

I agree with Sultan in that the decision was made to weigh the experience of a Vet over a two line projects.

Although he didn't name names, I wouldn't blame pittdawg if he was referencing Sparano. There were many on here griping about him in the offseason.
 

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pittdawg;1210742 said:
yes it's true that he has been inactive all season, but he is on the 53 man roster and he is benefitting from some pretty good line coaching, something he needed and didn't get last year.

i know rob stumbled badly at the end of last season, for more than one reason, but i noticed that this years sacks, without rob, were very similar to last year before bledsoe was cast aside and romo came in to save the season.

in any case i'm sure rob will be fine and playing again soon. good luck, it looks like you guys are firing on all cylinders now.



Don't bother yourself with the morons.



He's in the NFL. 99.99% of everyone here would give almost anything to be living that dream.

It's jealousy, pure and simple, plus thanks to 2 seasons of full salary and that huge playing time bonus from last year, he's already made more money that a lot of idiots will make in their lifetime.
 

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pittdawg;1210841 said:
no sour grapes just making a point that many have made here right up until romo took over. also, how do you say he was given every chance to win a spot when after two days of camp he was relegated to third string rt or lt and had his reps reduced to almost zero. when continually questioned by the press why rob wasn't getting more time, parcells only said i know what he can do.

that's all water under the bridge and i don't harbor ill feelings about his situation. his time in dallas was fun and rob has nothing to be sorry for.


I am not trying to take your side but the double standard is sometimes redicoulous. Many fans will argue that your son should not have started and that is somewhat true. He should have been a backup and given years to learn the position. The is no different than what is going on with McQuistan. McQuistan would look horrible if he started right now. If Rob would have sat on the bench, learned the position and gotten stronger he might have had a chance. No way a rookie switching positions is going to look good starting on the Oline.

Bobby Carpenter has not even sniffed the field. People can say what they want about depth, but he was a 1st rounder. Ellis is hurt and Parcells still hasn't inserted him into the line up. Carpenter is being given way more slack than Rob who actually played. Yeah Pettitti looked bad, but I do not think he ever gave less than his best. He was just set up for failure.

Don't get me wrong, I am glad that Colombo took Rob's job because he is an improvement. I am a Cowboys fan and am grateful for an upgrade at any position. However, Rob gave us his best, played hurt, was severely undercoached, and thrown to the wolves. Again no rookie is going to look good against veterans like Strahan. The don't have the experience and their bodies are not has devloped as they should be.
 

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Don't bother yourself with the morons.



He's in the NFL. 99.99% of everyone here would give almost anything to be living that dream.

It's jealousy, pure and simple, plus thanks to 2 seasons of full salary and that huge playing time bonus from last year, he's already made more money that a lot of idiots will make in their lifetime.
Sure.

It had nothing to do with bad play for people's favorite team.

You just bash Bledsoe because you're jealous. :rolleyes: Give me a break.
 

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WoodysGirl;1210880 said:
It's hard to use Columbo and Gurode as a good example though. Up until this year, he was considered a bust by many. For some reason, the light turned on and he's been solid. Columbo was a 1st round draft pick who suffered from injuries. It took years for both of them to really get it going...and it's nice to see.

You make a good point but all Im saying is BP saw something in those 2 players (like Romo) whatever it was that made him believe that they could be productive if he took the time to develop them. For whatever reason he didnt have that same belief in Rob. For all we know the Saints saw something Dallas didnt and he could end up being a very good player.

Its hard to argue with BP wanting to keep Fabini around given what transpired the previous year. That left McQuistan or Petitti as the odd man out.
 
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