Where is OT Rob Pettiti?

[Paniolo22]

Wow.

Thank you. I really appreciate that.

It does clear up a lot. If you've noticed by now, Parcells makes a bunch of decisions based on his gut feeling. Sometime I agree with it, other times I don't. I didn't agree that Fabini>Petitti, especially after pre season, but understood the experience difference. This isn't the first time Parcells has vetoed everyone, and it won't be the last. Fortunately, he seems to be on a roll with his gut feelings, so he definitely gets the benefit of a doubt.

 

[Hostile]

It does clear up a lot. If you've noticed by now, Parcells makes a bunch of decisions based on his gut feeling. Sometime I agree with it, other times I don't. I didn't agree that Fabini>Petitti, especially after pre season, but understood the experience difference. This isn't the first time Parcells has vetoed everyone, and it won't be the last. Fortunately, he seems to be on a roll with his gut feelings, so he definitely gets the benefit of a doubt.

I don't disagree with this at all Hawaiin Cowboy.

I can understand Rob and Mr. Petitti feeling negative. The man did say he would "die before he let him fail." I think stuff like that is hard to ignore.

I haven't dwelt on his waiver, nor will I. I don't on any player who gets released. Just wanted to set the record straight as I understood it. I trust the source of my info. I am pretty sure that Pittdawg and Rob trust whomever told them the same thing.

He's a Saint, not a Cowboy, sort of the opposite of Rayfield Wright. But Pittdawg is welcome to post here if he wishes. I don't see anything wrong with that, but then I've never had issues with him being here like some have.

 

[snapper]

It does clear up a lot. If you've noticed by now, Parcells makes a bunch of decisions based on his gut feeling. Sometime I agree with it, other times I don't. I didn't agree that Fabini>Petitti, especially after pre season, but understood the experience difference. This isn't the first time Parcells has vetoed everyone, and it won't be the last. Fortunately, he seems to be on a roll with his gut feelings, so he definitely gets the benefit of a doubt.

I can't help but wonder that if Parcells didn't think he could make a serious run at the SB this year he might have been a little more patient with Petitti. Afterall, he kept guys like Singleton and Fabini and would have kept the safety from Houston, if not for his leagal issues, as well. It's unfortunate but I can understand the thought process even though I never agreed with it.

 

[Alexander]

It does clear up a lot. If you've noticed by now, Parcells makes a bunch of decisions based on his gut feeling. Sometime I agree with it, other times I don't. I didn't agree that Fabini>Petitti, especially after pre season, but understood the experience difference.

That is correct. I don't know about you, but apparently given this "information" Coach Parcells still made the correct decision.

He stated before, to some's chagrin, that he "knew what he had" with Petitti.

What does that mean? He generally says that when he is concerned about a little to no upside situation. He said it repeatedly about Kurt Vollers. And he too was released in a similar circumstance after he was injured last season instead of keeping him when we could have used him.

Honestly, I believe if Petitti had shown something he obviously didn't he would be here. All of this alleged favortism is probably a more calculated and thought through decision simply because nobody wanted Bledsoe to be protected in that fashion again. Like it or not, excuses or not, his performance was unacceptable. Fabini was a easier plug and play and no offense, we had an offensive coach who was not only coaching the OL, but was also the offensive running game coordinator. It may be a case of not having the time to spend teaching fundamentals to several players needing technique work.

Pass rush protection was at a premium with Bledsoe. A veteran option that could start and eliminate a source of worry was the motivation. Petitti's performance last year worried him. We had room for one developmental player. Obviously, McQuistan's upside was more intriguing and was a situation where we could not get him on the practice squad because other teams wanted him. Fabini's experience was the key here. I don't see why that is so difficult to understand.

Much like Terrence Copper, Petitti was caught in the wash because we kept players that we knew we would lose. But I don't hear Terrence complaining. He moved on to a better situation and is doing well. At any rate, this worked out for the best.

And if these allegations of not receiving "coaching" here are true, then perhaps the decision was right too. Obviously whatever we were doing, if anything wasn't sinking in. So maybe we needed to part ways. I know I don't miss the player and feel more secure in the fact we made the right decision based upon what has happened in New Orleans with this player.

 

[DLCassidy]

I hope Rob does well in New Orleans. I could easily see that happening.

Unfortunately it may well have been the inevitable difficulties Rob had as a rookie starter last year that caused Parcells to go with the more experienced Fabini this year as an insurance policy against another injury at tackle. That's not Rob's fault but more of the situation he was in on a team trying to win now.

And what may have capped that call was what Parcells saw as even greater potential from McQuistan, so the developmental component didn't matter to him as much. The NFL's a hard business. Anyway good to hear Rob's progressing well.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I don't disagree with this at all Hawaiin Cowboy.

I can understand Rob and Mr. Petitti feeling negative. The man did say he would "die before he let him fail." I think stuff like that is hard to ignore.

I haven't dwelt on his waiver, nor will I. I don't on any player who gets released. Just wanted to set the record straight as I understood it. I trust the source of my info. I am pretty sure that Pittdawg and Rob trust whomever told them the same thing.

He's a Saint, not a Cowboy, sort of the opposite of Rayfield Wright. But Pittdawg is welcome to post here if he wishes. I don't see anything wrong with that, but then I've never had issues with him being here like some have.

This must have been in the offseason when I dont post as much.

That is pretty sad if that statement is true. We could use all the inside information we can, let alone this a forum for everyone.

- Mike G.

 

[Hostile]

That is correct. I don't know about you, but apparently given this "information" Coach Parcells still made the correct decision.

He stated before, to some's chagrin, that he "knew what he had" with Petitti.

What does that mean? He generally says that when he is concerned about a little to no upside situation. He said it repeatedly about Kurt Vollers. And he too was released in a similar circumstance after he was injured last season instead of keeping him when we could have used him.

Honestly, I believe if Petitti had shown something he obviously didn't he would be here. All of this alleged favortism is probably a more calculated and thought through decision simply because nobody wanted Bledsoe to be protected in that fashion again. Like it or not, excuses or not, his performance was unacceptable. Fabini was a easier plug and play and no offense, we had an offensive coach who was not only coaching the OL, but was also the offensive running game coordinator. It may be a case of not having the time to spend teaching fundamentals to several players needing technique work.

Pass rush protection was at a premium with Bledsoe. A veteran option that could start and eliminate a source of worry was the motivation. Petitti's performance last year worried him. We had room for one developmental player. Obviously, McQuistan's upside was more intriguing and was a situation where we could not get him on the practice squad because other teams wanted him. Fabini's experience was the key here. I don't see why that is so difficult to understand.

Much like Terrence Copper, Petitti was caught in the wash because we kept players that we knew we would lose. But I don't hear Terrence complaining. He moved on to a better situation and is doing well. At any rate, this worked out for the best.

And if these allegations of not receiving "coaching" here are true, then perhaps the decision was right too. Obviously whatever we were doing, if anything wasn't sinking in. So maybe we needed to part ways. I know I don't miss the player and feel more secure in the fact we made the right decision based upon what has happened in New Orleans with this player.

Nice post.

I think of all the moves this team made in the off season, the one that has panned out the best has been Marc Columbo at RT. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm thrilled with his play there. I find it hard to continue to wonder about the grassy knolls of the past while this guy has played so well.

I wanted to set the record straight, but I do not want to go backwards. Petitti is a Saint. He's happy there. So be it. I hate giving up on a draft pick, but he's not the first, nor will he be the last we give up on.

To me Marc Columbo is the biggest success story outside of Tony Romo on this team. I don't think he even has competition. The only reason I put Romos success above his is because it is "out of nowhere."

 

[burmafrd]

So it came down to Fabini vs Petitti and BP went with the experience. No suprise there. I do wonder as has been speculated that BP felt we were going to take a big run this year and in that case the experience was more important. BUT I also think that without the 2 kickers mess and worry about the WR position BP might have kept both. When it came down to crunch time he went with the guy he felt more comfortable with. The FACT that Petitti is not active also has to really make you think. Odds are that he should not have been playing last year either- should have been in the weight room and practicing. But on the other hand would Peyton have wanted him if he had not played? Looks like Rob is in a good place now with time to learn and get better; with a team that looks like it has a future. Overall thats a pretty good deal.

 

[burmafrd]

What is clear is that it was never a case of Columbo vs Petitti- columbo clearly was better. So it seems that rob at best would have been inactive here even if he had been kept.

 

[Hostile]

This must have been in the offseason when I dont post as much.

That is pretty sad if that statement is true. We could use all the inside information we can, let alone this a forum for everyone.

- Mike G.

It was mostly at other forums who hate that we had an inside source and decided to frequently insert their opinions here to stir up crap. Most of the long time posters appreciated the info and had no problems with pittdawg. A few did.

We made it worse by having a background here of Rob. I think that looked like we catered to them. Actually we were just trying to be nice. We've fallen behind on the backgrounds. I hope we'll catch up soon. But his is long gone as he is.

 

[Rack]

yes it's true that he has been inactive all season, but he is on the 53 man roster and he is benefitting from some pretty good line coaching, something he needed and didn't get last year.

i know rob stumbled badly at the end of last season, for more than one reason, but i noticed that this years sacks, without rob, were very similar to last year before bledsoe was cast aside and romo came in to save the season.

in any case i'm sure rob will be fine and playing again soon. good luck, it looks like you guys are firing on all cylinders now.

Bitter much?


I'm just glad he's not a cowboy anymore. One of the worst offensive linemen I've ever seen.

But at least he tried real hard.

 

[Hostile]

What is clear is that it was never a case of Columbo vs Petitti- columbo clearly was better. So it seems that rob at best would have been inactive here even if he had been kept.

I think that is entirely true. If people see that as me bashing Rob, then they are off base. I haven't bashed Pat McQuistan or called him useless.

Best post of this thread Burm. Right on the money.

 

[Alexander]

What is clear is that it was never a case of Columbo vs Petitti- columbo clearly was better. So it seems that rob at best would have been inactive here even if he had been kept.

It might be insignificant, but Fabini has done well on special teams and also as an eligible TE. Now I do not know if Petitti was afforded that opportunity to win a job that route either, but it isn't like Fabini is inactive every game. He is playing. If Petitti was the player in McQuistan's role, he would be doing exactly what he is doing now, which is sitting and learning. He had to show more than Fabini. It is that simple. Colombo came out of nowhere and beat them both out. He was a surprise that changed a lot of things. Just like how Austin, Hoyte, Hurd and even Ellis impacted the shape of the roster.

Fact is, we had more depth, more competition and we had specific ideas what we wanted on the final roster.

 

[Hostile]

It might be insignificant, but Fabini has done well on special teams and also as an eligible TE. Now I do not know if Petitti was afforded that opportunity to win a job that route either, but it isn't like Fabini is inactive every game. He is playing. If Petitti was the player in McQuistan's role, he would be doing exactly what he is doing now, which is sitting and learning. He had to show more than Fabini. It is that simple. Colombo came out of nowhere and beat them both out. He was a surprise that changed a lot of things. Just like how Austin, Hoyte, Hurd and even Ellis impacted the shape of the roster.

Fact is, we had more depth, more competition and we had specific ideas what we wanted on the final roster.

Again, good points.

I've criticized Parcells on some moves, but this roster and how they've contributed really can't be denied.

 

[ZeroClub]

Very cool thread.

pittdawg's analysis of last year is dead-on accurate:

rob was thrown into a situation to cover the gross miscalculation of the coaching staff as to the abilities of other players on the roster. rob never played RT nor was he in nfl shape, yet he played through numerous injuries for what he thought was the good of the team. through eleven games, rob had given up 7 sacks. after suffering a concussion and a severe high ankle sprain, julius jones 5 weeks, in the detroit game, rob's play begain to spiral down surrendering 6 1/2 sacks the final 5 games. my problem is that with a severe injury and a rookie reaching the wall he should not even been playing. the team had made no contingent plan for this having used a roster spot for the future in columbo. that move payed off well for this year , but left the team without a real option at either tackle last year.

And as Alexander just suggested, Pettiti was odd man out in a tricky roster situation.

Parcells wanted/needed a vet in the mix (Fabini), liked what he had in Columbo, and didn't have room for two developmental guys.

McQuistan truly came from nowhere, reportedly showed so much that he wouldn't have made it to the practice squad, and so an unexpected contingency suddenly emerged that resulted in Pettiti's departure (despite prior assurances to the contrary). Nobody saw it coming.

It is a real tough business.

 

[Alexander]

Again, good points.

I've criticized Parcells on some moves, but this roster and how they've contributed really can't be denied.

I cannot see how Coach Parcells cutting a player that would/should be inactive and keeping a seasoned veteran could be characterized as a mistake. There have been plenty that fans determined that he would "rue" yet we don't see them doing much, if anything in the league.

Antonio Bryant has been okay, except he eventually will go a step too far and doesn't appear any more mature two years later than he did the day he pitched his jersey. How are Derek Ross, Resherd Lee, Woodrow Dantzler, Drew Henson, Kalen Thornton, Bruce Thornton, Jacob Rogers, Stephen Peterman and others working out? Not so good.

If bashing him about this release makes some people feel justified in their belief the game has passed him by and he is an senile egomaniacal liar prone to laziness and fetish, so be it. Just try finding a better example than Rob Petitti.

You win some, you lose some. There is nothing rueful about this one yet.

 

[JPM]

Bitter much?


I'm just glad he's not a cowboy anymore. One of the worst offensive linemen I've ever seen.

But at least he tried real hard.

LOL !! I knew you would show up. :shoot1:

 

[yesfan]

Parcells even said in the beginning of that camp,Petitti was
in the best shape or most improved,strength wise,something
like that,and then the kid was gone.No,im thinking Parcells really
liked the kid,so it must of pained him to let him go.I think we all
could see how Rob was thrown to the wolves when he first got
here and it's obvious Bill changed his mind and went in another
direction.I will say this,the kid busted his butt,and Sean knows
that and signed him to the Saints.

 

[Alexander]

Very cool thread.

pittdawg's analysis of last year is dead-on accurate:

It is doubly tough when honestly there are not a lot of options we could go with. Tackles, especially starting quality, aren't easy to obtain. Everyone needs one.

Who exactly could we have claimed off the street that could have done the job? I realize it has become a running joke, but where indeed were these players? I saw all kinds of names being thrown around here in panic when Adams got hurt. Chris Terry from Carolina, Toniu Fonoti was a popular choice. Where are these players now?

I distinctly remember Ross Verba, but he turned us completely off with his attitude. We also tried Ethan Brooks and he never could make it either. Colombo was a calculated risk for the future, but to use that as a further excuse why Petitti was somehow treated unfairly is simply reaching.

There is an obligation that the staff has to think for the future of the organization. That is what the pro personnel director and scouts are charged to examine. Colombo was that. There was not a single player on the market that could have rescued our situation and been better than Petitti, even an injured one, believe it or not. Colombo had virtually nothing to do with Petitti.

If you want to blame the staff, blame them for not making the move back in preseason when it became apparent that Jacob Rogers was not going to make it. There were more options then than there was after Adams' injury. That is where any gross miscalculation could have possibly occurred.

Again, suggesting Colombo had some sort of play in this is ridiculous.

 

[Alexander]

Parcells even said in the beginning of that camp,Petitti was
in the best shape or most improved,strength wise,something
like that,and then the kid was gone.No,im thinking Parcells really
liked the kid,so it must of pained him to let him go.I think we all
could see how Rob was thrown to the wolves when he first got
here and it's obvious Bill changed his mind and went in another
direction.I will say this,the kid busted his butt,and Sean knows
that and signed him to the Saints.

He said that very same type of thing about other players that got released. I remember him talking about Willie Blade and Daleroy Stewart in similar terms. If someone misconstrues that, they don't know his history.