Which Head Coach that is available is better than Garrett right now?

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He is a great showman...but a terrible football guy...he never has learned his place. Jerry is a clueless myopic guy. Knows how to make money,no doubt...but hasn't a clue about what it takes to win at the pro level.
Yea but I’m not sure he doesn’t have a clue or just unwilling to bring someone else in who would recieve more credit like Jimmy did. Winning obviously isn’t the top priority for Jerry.

It is what it is and why the bar has been lowered here with Jerry’s personal agendas.

At least we’re #1 in Revenue and America’s Team. We’d hate if Jerry was suffering any financially due to our lack of success this era which enables him to continue his pursuit.
 

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I am NEVER going to be a JG fan. I never will understand that. But I am a lifelong Dallas fan..team first. I am of the belief that players can sometimes win inspite ..DESPITE who the HC may be. Case and point...one Barry Switzer. YES..Pete Carrol. Love Tony Dungy..but he wasn't exactly Bill Belichick. Decent? Maybe.. Gary Kubiak/Wade Phillips will never be accused of being a hall of fame HC,depsite winning a SB with Manning. My point is, the HC is not the end all be all..it DOES boil down to the players,and sometimes...the dominoes falling your way. I am an optimistic fan of the team. History says we are due to go on a run.
Don’t have to be a fan of Garrett. I think we all wish we had a better situation here.

The bottomline is dealing with the Cards we are dealt with Jerry’s agendas. Now once you accept that then we can begin looking for ways to overcome much like we’re looking for ways to surround Dak with the support talent he needs.
 

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I know you keep saying he’s horrible based on your definition. Horrible to me is 3 straight 5-11 Campo seasons .

Garrett has the third most wins in Cowboy history and as many playoff wins and double digit win seasons as any other HC since 90’s team.

I guess by your definition all of our coaches last couple decades have been horrible ?

Nope, Garrett is horrid.
 

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Who is your next puppet?

And why will he have more success with Jerry than other more experienced coaches like Parcells, Phillips and Gailey?

I dont want another puppet. We seem to be going around in circles. Maybe I should just put you back on ignore.
 

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Oh boy, wow, I really should know who that is. LOL Is he your hero now that he thinks Garrett is great coach? Maybe if this guy played for Garrett he would think differently.
 

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Probably so because you don’t appear to get it.

I get it, you are soo beaten down by the Cowboys that you cant think logically anymore. You defend a bad coach because you think its the best we can get. And hate a good young QB because you feel in after two years he isnt good enough to overcome the horrid coach that you defend. OR you just enjoy being annoying. Probably a lot of both.

Either way your definitely back on ignore.
 

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I get it, you are soo beaten down by the Cowboys that you cant think logically anymore. You defend a bad coach because you think its the best we can get. And hate a good young QB because you feel in after two years he isnt good enough to overcome the horrid coach that you defend. OR you just enjoy being annoying. Probably a lot of both.

Either way your definitely back on ignore.
Alrighty then...

Logical solutions are beyond the realm of possibilities with Jerry Ball. Obviously you dont get that. It took me a few years to accept it as well. Very frustrating . I understand . But Jerry won.
 

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I get it, you are soo beaten down by the Cowboys that you cant think logically anymore. You defend a bad coach because you think its the best we can get.
The Garrett fanboys say that, but they actually don't want another coach because they're afraid the team would perform better and their red hero would be exposed.

This thread is a real blast from the past watching the Garrett fans do back bends to explain his mediocrity. The team he was a part of was so insanely talented even the worst coach ever could make the playoffs with it... until Garrett took over. Then overnight it became a no-talent wreck requiring a near-decade-long rebuild. Poor, poor Jason had it so badly here with Romo and Witten and Ware and Lee and others. LOL.

I do love that the wunderkind has won as many playoff games in seven years as the horrible coach did in three. But wunderkind is still great and we're so lucky to have him. Again, LOL.
 

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The Garrett fanboys say that, but they actually don't want another coach because they're afraid the team would perform better and their red hero would be exposed.

This thread is a real blast from the past watching the Garrett fans do back bends to explain his mediocrity. The team he was a part of was so insanely talented even the worst coach ever could make the playoffs with it... until Garrett took over. Then overnight it became a no-talent wreck requiring a near-decade-long rebuild. Poor, poor Jason had it so badly here with Romo and Witten and Ware and Lee and others. LOL.

I do love that the wunderkind has won as many playoff games in seven years as the horrible coach did in three. But wunderkind is still great and we're so lucky to have him. Again, LOL.

As a Cowboys fan, my only hope is for success. I don't care who the coach is. If a roster is stocked, it really shouldn't matter. I watched the 1995 team win the Super Bowl with Barry Switzer as the coach.

I've supported Garrett, but I would not consider myself a Garrett "fanboy". In fact, I want to see a deep playoff run in 2018 or else I want him gone. The Cowboys have proven talent at just about every position this year, except maybe tight end and safety. Neither position is truly vital given the way this roster is constructed.

It's time for Garrett to deliver.
 

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The Garrett fanboys say that, but they actually don't want another coach because they're afraid the team would perform better and their red hero would be exposed.

This thread is a real blast from the past watching the Garrett fans do back bends to explain his mediocrity. The team he was a part of was so insanely talented even the worst coach ever could make the playoffs with it... until Garrett took over. Then overnight it became a no-talent wreck requiring a near-decade-long rebuild. Poor, poor Jason had it so badly here with Romo and Witten and Ware and Lee and others. LOL.

I do love that the wunderkind has won as many playoff games in seven years as the horrible coach did in three. But wunderkind is still great and we're so lucky to have him. Again, LOL.
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The Garrett fanboys say that, but they actually don't want another coach because they're afraid the team would perform better and their red hero would be exposed.

This thread is a real blast from the past watching the Garrett fans do back bends to explain his mediocrity. The team he was a part of was so insanely talented even the worst coach ever could make the playoffs with it... until Garrett took over. Then overnight it became a no-talent wreck requiring a near-decade-long rebuild. Poor, poor Jason had it so badly here with Romo and Witten and Ware and Lee and others. LOL.

I do love that the wunderkind has won as many playoff games in seven years as the horrible coach did in three. But wunderkind is still great and we're so lucky to have him. Again, LOL.

This is total nonsense, CL.

The 2010 team he took over was 1-7. There's no dressing up that pig. And he started the OL overhaul immediately in that next offseason. And every NFL team has good players on it. That's not how you measure a good team. You measure a good team by how many holes its got, and the 2010-2012 teams had a lot of holes.

The weakest thing you're saying here is that any of us wouldn't want an improvement over Garrett if he's replaced at HC. That's just a really dumb argument to try to make. For one, if Garrett were replaced next week, I can tell you right now I'm still not going to agree that he wasn't a good coach in Dallas. I'm going to say he's a guy who put together a couple of teams that were contenders, but he didn't get it done. I'm not going to suddenly reverse position and agree that he's secretly been a bad coach all along.

Secondly, there's not a person in the organization I wouldn't want to see replaced in a heartbeat by a more talented alternative. Just because you think a coach is doing a good job, it doesn't mean there aren't better options out there.

This is the sort of irrational take that makes seriously discussion the topic of coaching in Dallas pointless.
 

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What don’t you get! Garrett’s ceiling is mediocrity. Our chances of winning the Super Bowl with him are almost non existent, unless we have way more talent than everyone( probably 25% more talent). We need to take a chance with a new HC. We already know Garrett’s limitations, and in all probability they are to much to overcome to win a Superbowl.
who has a chance to win a superbowl with Jerry at the helm? we have had 6 since
Camp had the least talent out of any coach. And had he been given 7 years to screw around no doubt he would have won a playoff game.

Nothing impressive about anything Garrett has done. Not to someone with remotely high standards anyway.
WOW. this is now sounds personal against garrett........ campo went 5-11, 5-11 and 5-11.... he sucked. since you measure coaching success by records, then this speaks volumes...you want to play fantasy coaching carousel, that's your choice....
 

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who has a chance to win a superbowl with Jerry at the helm? we have had 6 since

WOW. this is now sounds personal against garrett........ campo went 5-11, 5-11 and 5-11.... he sucked. since you measure coaching success by records, then this speaks volumes...you want to play fantasy coaching carousel, that's your choice....
Roy has a personal vendetta . He even admits he hates the way he throws the red flag.

There’s some just criticism of Garrett. And there’s some positive assets he’s contributed. Roys spin is so obvious.
 

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I'll give Garrett 7 more years to win 1 more playoff game and then I am done with him. If he can't do that then his process and message need to go.
 

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This is total nonsense, CL.

The 2010 team he took over was 1-7. There's no dressing up that pig. And he started the OL overhaul immediately in that next offseason. And every NFL team has good players on it. That's not how you measure a good team. You measure a good team by how many holes its got, and the 2010-2012 teams had a lot of holes.

The weakest thing you're saying here is that any of us wouldn't want an improvement over Garrett if he's replaced at HC. That's just a really dumb argument to try to make. For one, if Garrett were replaced next week, I can tell you right now I'm still not going to agree that he wasn't a good coach in Dallas. I'm going to say he's a guy who put together a couple of teams that were contenders, but he didn't get it done. I'm not going to suddenly reverse position and agree that he's secretly been a bad coach all along.

Secondly, there's not a person in the organization I wouldn't want to see replaced in a heartbeat by a more talented alternative. Just because you think a coach is doing a good job, it doesn't mean there aren't better options out there.

This is the sort of irrational take that makes seriously discussion the topic of coaching in Dallas pointless.
Pointless with some but not all. As usual on Social Media there’s a very vocal minority that circle the wagons and try to intimidate others voicing their opinions.

I think your post here represents most of the fans I know personally. Well said !
 

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I'll give Garrett 7 more years to win 1 more playoff game and then I am done with him. If he can't do that then his process and message need to go.
Hopefully Jason will be in the Skybox by then in Jerry Jones stadium named posthumously.
 

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who has a chance to win a superbowl with Jerry at the helm? we have had 6 since

WOW. this is now sounds personal against garrett........ campo went 5-11, 5-11 and 5-11.... he sucked. since you measure coaching success by records, then this speaks volumes...you want to play fantasy coaching carousel, that's your choice....

He was certainly not great. I would say sucked, yes. He definitely had the least talent out of any coach of the Cowboys. NO franchise QB's. What has Garretts record been without Romo or Dak? I would wager the winning percentage is very similar.
 

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As a Cowboys fan, my only hope is for success. I don't care who the coach is. If a roster is stocked, it really shouldn't matter. I watched the 1995 team win the Super Bowl with Barry Switzer as the coach.

I've supported Garrett, but I would not consider myself a Garrett "fanboy". In fact, I want to see a deep playoff run in 2018 or else I want him gone. The Cowboys have proven talent at just about every position this year, except maybe tight end and safety. Neither position is truly vital given the way this roster is constructed.

It's time for Garrett to deliver.

To say coaching doesnt matter is naive. You can find teams that have won without great coaches. Nonetheless, a great coach makes any team better and the players better.

The time for Garrett do deliver is long past. Its clear that he cant.
 
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