Which (If any) member of the Triplets was overrated?

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I agree with the bulk of this post. I would organize it differently. I would go Aikman, Irvin and Emmitt. Emmitt cared more about the stats and records than Aikman did. If Aikman had cared about that stuff the team wouldn't have done what it did. Aikman had the capacity to set records too, he just cared more about winning.

Yeah, it is splitting hairs as far as I'm concerned. They were all great players and all worked so well together and loved each other like brothers.

You could tell me Emmitt was the best, you could tell me Troy was the best, or you could tell me Michael was the best... and I wouldn't be able to argue with you on any point.

I loved all three of those guys.
 

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Never thought I'd read that the QB with the highest completion percentage (70%) in the history of the SB was the over rated guy. Thats Higher than Montana and Brady. I think this playoff drought is makin us all a littel crazy.
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He was playing with back issues.... which begs the question of what we might be in store for in Romo's last years.

It's a scary thought although I don't think his back problems are as bad as Troy's.
 

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I watched the games and i watched them live. I just dont feel the need to give answers to people who post worthless crap just to insult people.

Still i think Aikman was overrated and lived from the talent around him.

There are alot of people who fell in love with a player. Over their love with that player they fail to judge the player by logic.

It's the same here day in day out. When you criticize one player you get 100 responses from fanboys who lack the brain but know how to insult as if they had learned it in school.

He was a first ballot hall of famer, and his strongest praise comes from his peers, not fanboys. You're just wrong on this one. And if you watched those games live then I'm betting you were a big Emmitt fan. Those are usually the guys who try to diminish Aikman.
 

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Yeah, it is splitting hairs as far as I'm concerned. They were all great players and all worked so well together and loved each other like brothers.

You could tell me Emmitt was the best, you could tell me Troy was the best, or you could tell me Michael was the best... and I wouldn't be able to argue with you on any point.

I loved all three of those guys.

I agree friend
 

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Never thought I'd read that the QB with the highest completion percentage (70%) in the history of the SB was the over rated guy. Thats Higher than Montana and Brady. I think this playoff drought is makin us all a littel crazy.
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Thank you. Sanity.
 

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I think people take the word overrated and turn it into sucks lol.

You are right about that. But Aikman wasn't overrated. If anything he was underrated because he was willing to play a role lesser than he was capable of in order for the team to have its best success.
 

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He was a first ballot hall of famer, and his strongest praise comes from his peers, not fanboys. You're just wrong on this one. And if you watched those games live then I'm betting you were a big Emmitt fan. Those are usually the guys who try to diminish Aikman.

Alot of prejustice on your side. That is how you work ?

Prejustice is always very entertaining to me. I'd love to be that way too. But i guess i lack life experience.

So maybe you can help me out. Id love to hear more from you about my person or what fan of which player i am/ i was.
 

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Alot of prejustice on your side. That is how you work ?

Prejustice is always very entertaining to me. I'd love to be that way too. But i guess i lack life experience.

So maybe you can help me out. Id love to hear more from you about my person or what fan of which player i am/ i was.

You can deny it. No one forcing you to wear it. So you weren't an Emmitt fan I take it? You watched all the games live, enjoyed 3 Super Bowls in 4 years, thought Aikman was carried by everyone around him, but not a big Emmitt fan? Ok, who carried that team then? I'll listen.
 

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Alot of prejudice on your side. That is how you work ?

Prejudice is always very entertaining to me. I'd love to be that way too. But i guess i lack life experience.

So maybe you can help me out. Id love to hear more from you about my person or what fan of which player i am/ i was.
fify
 

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I think people take the word overrated and turn it into sucks lol.

Right on the money.

I write overrated which does in fact mean that the player wsa still a good player. But all those fanboys who are in love with that particular player switch off their brains and go berserk.
Just because they are not able to read whats been written. They interpret "omg he said my beloved XXX sucked". To hell with him.

I can only shake my head about that. And i cant understand how people react like they were personally insulted just because someone thinks one of their favorite players wasnt as good as they think he was.

Get a life people.
 

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You are right about that. But Aikman wasn't overrated. If anything he was underrated because he was willing to play a role lesser than he was capable of in order for the team to have its best success.

People who think he wasn't overrated really can't prove that he was capable of doing more with less if he had a chance. Peolple who think he was overrated can't prove he couldn't. No one really knows. It all comes down to opinions. And when people get called idiots and their football knowledge mocked because of that opinion is really unnecessary. I think he was overrated. I think he was a good qb but not great. I will put my football knowledge, the x's and o's of football againd 90% of the members in this forum. JMO
 

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People who think he wasn't overrated really can't prove that he was capable of doing more with less if he had a chance. Peolple who think he was overrated can't prove he couldn't. No one really knows. It all comes down to opinions. And when people get called idiots and their football knowledge mocked because of that opinion is really unnecessary. I think he was overrated. I think he was a good qb but not great. I will put my football knowledge, the x's and o's of football againd 90% of the members in this forum. JMO

hmmm.... ok, hall of fame committee disagreed with you... and it only took them 1 vote.
 

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I think they are all rated about where they should be, frankly. Emmitt obviously, I don't even know how you can make up something that overrates him. Is it possible? Irvin: I feel like Mike is rated correctly. Nobody tries to say he is Jerry Rice. He's known for his fight, toughness, and for putting up some high end numbers to go with it (don't forget, Mike didn't get to pad the end of his career with 50 catch seasons like a lot of people did). Troy: he played in an era of great QBs with Marino, Elway, Favre, Young, etc and I don't see anyone out there really saying he's ahead of those guys. He made the HOF first ballot and no one ever questioned it for a second... nor should they have.
 

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I think they are all rated about where they should be, frankly. Emmitt obviously, I don't even know how you can make up something that overrates him. Is it possible? Irvin: I feel like Mike is rated correctly. Nobody tries to say he is Jerry Rice. He's known for his fight, toughness, and for putting up some high end numbers to go with it (don't forget, Mike didn't get to pad the end of his career with 50 catch seasons like a lot of people did). Troy: he played in an era of great QBs with Marino, Elway, Favre, Young, etc and I don't see anyone out there really saying he's ahead of those guys. He made the HOF first ballot and no one ever questioned it for a second... nor should they have.

I think this is a fair take. For my own taste, though, I would take Irvin over Rice, and I would take Aikman over any of the QB's you just mentioned. I mean that sincerely.
 

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You can deny it. No one forcing you to wear it. So you weren't an Emmitt fan I take it? You watched all the games live, enjoyed 3 Super Bowls in 4 years, thought Aikman was carried by everyone around him, but not a big Emmitt fan? Ok, who carried that team then? I'll listen.

I never was a Emmit fan. That does not mean i think he was bad. I think Emmit was one of the best backs to play the position. But he was sure not the best to me.
I liked Irvin but was not a fan of him neither. But Irvin to me was the best player (on his position compared to other players on his position across the league) of the triplets.

But your question was who carried the team. To me that was the OL and the rotating DL. They had good LBs too (and btw i loved Ken Norton Jr.). But of course Emmit and Irvin also carried it. Aikam made his living of off that.

Aikman sure was a leader. That was one of his abilities. And he was accurate. I cant deny that. But was he a great QB? I dont see that. He was good. And that was all this team needed. Later when FA hit us Aikman sank into mediocrity like the rest of the team did. Great QBs carry teams, he couldnt.

Dont misunderstand me. I wrote Aikam was overrated. That does not mean he was a bad player. In fact he was a good QB but meassured by his 3 SB RIngs and the accolades he got for that to me he is overrated.

I may stand alone with my opinion. Partly because this is a Cowboys fanboard. And it is not allowed to criticize greats who helped to build the franchise's success.
 

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I never was a Emmit fan. That does not mean i think he was bad. I think Emmit was one of the best backs to play the position. But he was sure not the best to me.
I liked Irvin but was not a fan of him neither. But Irvin to me was the best player (on his position compared to other players on his position across the league) of the triplets.

But your question was who carried the team. To me that was the OL and the rotating DL. They had good LBs too (and btw i loved Ken Norton Jr.). But of course Emmit and Irvin also carried it. Aikam made his living of off that.

Aikman sure was a leader. That was one of his abilities. And he was accurate. I cant deny that. But was he a great QB? I dont see that. He was good. And that was all this team needed. Later when FA hit us Aikman sank into mediocrity like the rest of the team did. Great QBs carry teams, he couldnt.

Dont misunderstand me. I wrote Aikam was overrated. That does not mean he was a bad player. In fact he was a good QB but meassured by his 3 SB RIngs and the accolades he got for that to me he is overrated.

I may stand alone with my opinion. Partly because this is a Cowboys fanboard. And it is not allowed to criticize greats who helped to build the franchise's success.

Well, of course I disagree with you, but who said you can't have your opinion? Its obvious you're posting it. You do realize that some of those offensive line greats were there before Irvin, Aikman and Emmitt showed up? They weren't hall of famers at the time.

I say what Norv Turner said... you can have the other QB's who get all the love from those early 90's years, and I'll take Aikman, and I'll beat you.

I would encourage you to watch the 1992 NFC Championship game, the 1992 Super Bowl, the 1993 NFC Championship game (before he got knocked out), and the 1995 NFC Championship game (Mike Holmgren went to Dallas' locker room afterward to shake Aikman's hand) and then tell me Aikman wasn't great. If you can do that, I will just shake my head. He had a lot of other great games too, but those were huge games and he played like the champion he was.
 

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According to all fans other than Dallas fans...each guy was just a product of the players he had around them...

Aikman was only good because he could hand it off to Emmitt and throw to Irvin.

Emmitt was only good because of his o-line and having Aikman and Irvin take the pressure off.

Irvin was only good because he had Aikman throwing the ball and Emmitt shouldering the load.

I ask, do you believe any of the Triplets was a product of the other players around him? Who gets the most and least credit when talking about these guys?

If any were my reluctant candidate would be Smith. The line was a beast but so was Smith. It's kinda ridiculous to pick one I took a shoot.
 
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