Which NFC East Team Has The Most Effective Front Office?

[PoundTheRock]

How did you feel when the Cowboys avenged that Thanksgiving loss by going into Philly on a Sunday night and pretty much wiping the floor with the Eagles? Dez had 3 easy touchdowns. We let them know who was boss in that game. Did you enjoy yourself that night?

Very much so.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Very much so.

 

[Sydla]

Have we really reached the point where you guys actually believe the Cowboys are a good organization?

When do we reach the point where you stop being a front office hater and claim just about everything outside of Valley Ranch is likely better?

 

[Sydla]

I wish I were an Eagles fan, then I could've actually seen my team be dominant in my lifetime.

No one is stopping you. You can be an Eagles fan if you want.

You actually sound like a troll, maybe an Eagles fan in disguise.

 

[PoundTheRock]

I guess I'll hold my head down and have low standards for the Cowboys while I watch them make no effort to improve.

Thanks for the advice, guys.

 

[Sydla]

Is it really? The Cowboys have a QB who is near retirement, an inferior coach to the Eagles and a front office that is the epitome of mediocre. When I see the Cowboys consistently winning double digit games, I'll feel like it's pointing upward. Until then, I'm going to look at this team with skepticism. They've more than earned it.

The Eagles have a QB with two torn ACLs and hasn't been any good since being in the NFL, their superior coach got outcoached by Garrett down the stretch and their front office is actually takign heat for some of their moves and many are questioning if it was wise to hand over total control to Kelly, someone with no NFL experience and made questionable decision in the last draft.

I have no issue with looking at the Cowboys with some skepticism, but then to turn around and look at the Eagles as some model we should follow is totally laughable (and stupid).

 

[DFWJC]

PoundTheRock is the same guy who made a thread about how he wishes we could get out of Romo's contract so we could sign Eli Manning when his is up in 2016 and now wishes he were an eagles fan.

Honestly dude, you seem to like every team in the NFCE MORE than the Cowboys, why are you even here.

I forget sometimes that--other than UFC and some of those guys--there are people out there that still think Eli is better. They forget all the bad and recall a couple nice playoff runs (omitting all of the playoff one-and-dones and putrid reg seasons)...then they don't give anyone else that benefit.
I mean, Eli has been terribly inconsistent--or else you could say, he's been very consistent being mediocre.

 

[Sydla]

I guess hold my head down and have low standards for the Cowboys while I watch them make no effort to improve.

Thanks for the advice, guys.

Actually no one uttered anything like this.

No one said the Cowboys don't need to improve and get better. But when you turn around and say you wish we could be like the Eagles, who have shown to be as inept as we have in the last 5-7 years, it calls into question a few things........... you sanity or you actual fandom.

 

[Crown Royal]

I forget sometimes that--other than UFC and some of those guys--there are people out there that still think Eli is better. They forget all the bad and recall a couple nice playoff runs (omitting all of the playoff one-and-dones and putrid reg seasons)...then they don't give anyone else that benefit.
I mean, Eli has been terribly inconsistent--or else you could say, he's been very consistent being mediocre.

Eli is a dangerous QB. I have been burned by questioning his ability far too many times, and you can't debate that he has been successful. I would prefer Romo over him though, and always have/will. I agree on consistency being a huge issue with Eli - his bad can be really bad. But I don't want that to be a mistake for what I think of Eli - he is a very good QB when he is turned on.

 

[Idgit]

I guess I'll hold my head down and have low standards for the Cowboys while I watch them make no effort to improve.

Thanks for the advice, guys.

Or...you could spend some time figuring out what it is that you've actually been watching these last several seasons.

 

[PoundTheRock]

Actually no one uttered anything like this.

No one said the Cowboys don't need to improve and get better. But when you turn around and say you wish we could be like the Eagles, who have shown to be as inept as we have in the last 5-7 years, it calls into question a few things........... you sanity or you actual fandom.

The Eagles looked inward and decided they needed to change. They hired a visionary coach and thus far he's gotten some decent results. You may not like this methodology, but Kelly is assembling the team he wants to go to war with. Time will tell if it works, but he's already been successful with someone else's toys.

Meanwhile in Dallas, we have guy who continually shows himself to be inept in games and he's been here since the year 2007 as an OC. The entire time he's been the coach, he's had according to you guys, an elite QB. Despite this it took him until his 4th full season as the head coach to get his team to the playoffs. For some inexplicable reason, he manged to go 3 seasons with making the playoffs and maintained his position. It doesn't take a century to get results in the modern NFL. The Cowboys are okay with being a mediocre ball club, just like most of our fans.

 

[Mansta54]

Since 2008 the Eagles are 62-49-1 with no playoff wins.
Cowboys are 62-50 with 2 playoff wins.

Nuff said.....

 

[Sydla]

The Eagles looked inward and decided they needed to change. They hired a visionary coach and thus far he's gotten some decent results. You may not like this methodology, but Kelly is assembling the team he wants to go to war with. Time will tell if it works, but he's already been successful with someone else's toys.

Meanwhile in Dallas, we have guy who continually shows himself to be inept in games and he's been here since the year 2007 as an OC. The entire time he's been the coach, he's had according to you guys, an elite QB. Despite this it took him until his 4th full season as the head coach to get his team to the playoffs. For some inexplicable reason, he manged to go 3 seasons with making the playoffs and maintained his position. It doesn't take a century to get results in the modern NFL. The Cowboys are okay with being a mediocre ball club, just like most of our fans.

They looked inward after 3-4 years of stagnation. The fans in Philly were killing them for holding onto Reid too long. They had to be dragged kicking and screaming to make a change. And they made a change with a guy who is high risk and even the biggest homers in Philly admit that there is serious risk here to what Kelly is doing.

Again, no one has said Dallas has been operating at a high level here. You keep going back to this point but it's a lame strawman that continues to make you look either not very bright or just a fan of antoher team trolling this board. Dallas has had issues. A lot of issues. They've made some mistakes the last few years. But to suggest that in recent times, the Eagles are such the better model of consistency, whatever, is a total joke.

 

[PoundTheRock]

Andy Reid deserved the opportunity to right his ship. He is and has been an excellent head coach in this league. Jason Garrett until proven otherwise is a clown.

 

[Sydla]

LOL.

 

[Crown Royal]

Andy Reid dominated the east when:

• Both the Cowboys and Giants were in complete shambles and without QBs
• He had Jim Johnson

He still had some success after these two variables changed, but not nearly as much.

 

[Stryker44]

People are now jumping on the train for which BTB has long been a regular commuter: that the Cowboys, contrary to popular mythology, boast a stable front office. Which begs the question: how might we rank all four NFC East front offices in terms of stability?

In Sunday's morning news post, the inimitable O.C.C. chose as his headliner an article by long-time Cowboys curmudgeon Jean-Jacques Taylor. For years now, Taylor has been riding the Cowboys' front office for its ineptitude; his favorite rhetorical maneuver has been to share one of the Cowboys' public statements and then to eviscerate it with a single word: "poppycock." He's also a big fan of "rooty-poot" as an assessment of one or another of the Cowboys' strategies.

Of late, however, JJT has changed his tune. In mid-January, after making Jerry Jones his whipping boy for the better part of a decade, he offered that the Cowboys' owner had "changed his ways" and become "the type of executive needed for a team's sustained success." Earlier this month, Taylor penned a post proposing that Stephen Jones had "taken charge" of the Cowboys, and the team was now operating according to his more prudent philosophy. Then, on Friday, ESPNDallas published a piece in which JJT told readers that:

These Cowboys move deliberately in free agency, eschewing the big-ticket, gaudy purchases for sensible selections from the discount bin. This is the Cowboys' new reality, and it's taking time for some of y'all to accept it, but it's the proper approach for a team trying to build a sustained winner.

link/http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2015...east-team-has-the-most-effective-front-office

How did Stephen manage to wrest control of the team from his father?

 

[PoundTheRock]

Or...you could spend some time figuring out what it is that you've actually been watching these last several seasons.

The Cowboys refuse to make changes because our fans have become accustomed to and actually enjoy just being an okay football team.

 

[DFWJC]

Eli is a dangerous QB. I have been burned by questioning his ability far too many times, and you can't debate that he has been successful. I would prefer Romo over him though, and always have/will. I agree on consistency being a huge issue with Eli - his bad can be really bad. But I don't want that to be a mistake for what I think of Eli - he is a very good QB when he is turned on.

I actually think he's in for a good season. hate so say it, but he's due and they seem to have the parts around him.
Just in general, Romo's best statistical seasons have trumped even Mannings very best.
But I do not discount him. And as far as 4th qtr comeback wins, he's right there with Romo over his career. I just think in the last 5-6 years, Eli has had the better defenses, on average.

 

[DFWJC]

The Cowboys refuse to make changes because our fans have become accustomed to and actually enjoy just being an okay football team.

What changes are those?
They seem to be making a TON of changes in the Garrett era.
The roster has been almost completely overturned.
Please explain what you are talking about.
12-4 and inches (or a bad call) from an NFC title game is not just an okay team.