Which Receivers Make the 53?

[thunderpimp91]

How? Mingo hasn't had a chance to show anything.

Exactly...bad players typically don't get a ton of opportunities. If anyone had an opportunity to carve out more playing time by switching teams it was Mingo. Just 89 passing snaps in 8 games when your top two WRs both missed multiple games? Coaching staff clearly didn't feel he offered anything of value last year.

 

[blueblood70]

Lol...I'm just passing along information from a guy who was at OTAs, I'm not hyping anyone. The guy actually said Moreno-Cropper, Mingo, and Campbell had a good day catching the rock.

Good job catching in shorts against air against other 3rd tier players..im clapping hard sarcastically. Just saying reports out of oats and mini camps etc yawn.

 

[J-man]

I assume they keep 6 on the 53 and 1 or more to the PS.

53- CDL, Pickens, Tolbert, Mingo, Turpin, Flournoy

PS- best of Campbell, Brooks, Cropper and Harmon

 

[exciter]

Or he knows something you don't apparently you think you're a GM or a coach but you really need to settle down because you don't know now that he could become the next mile is awesome but you don't know that that's what camp is for that is what preseason is for guys get discovered that you had never have thought that they might be good they just needed a chance to showcase their skills yes in the NFL with a professional team in better coaches I would believe that the wide receiver coach knows more than you about this particular player and he may have dropped in the draft because of his character more than his skill set you could keep talking you're not making your point to me because I'm going to trust the coaches brought him here for a good reason and it wasn't a favor..

You tend to have inside information about players you've coached that maybe scouts and other coaches do not know. That is why you never write off a player because you don't know who they are and what they can do and you just wait and see but you keep writing this guys if you know for sure Canada maybe the UFL why is everyone going to Canada? Pretty sure the UFL is now the place to go ask Aubrey Butler and Turpin, how it can turn back into an NFL career...

To be sure to keep that in mind there are players that we didn't know about until they were brought to our attention like those three players that came from the UFL the place you think players go to die and sometimes they circle back and are better than you think...

I'll give junior Adams the benefit of the doubt and I think he sees something in this kid and while he may be a camp body that will have to stick around a few years like we talked about Miles Austin taking a while as an undrafted free agent to get onto the roster but once he did he actually had two great years if it wasn't for his hamstrings he could have been a really good player for us..

This is why I brought up miles Austin not for you to come back with oh he was a better player really if he was a better player it wouldn't took him three years to get on the NFL level it did so I'm going to give Holden a shot ,because it's better than being a pessimist and not even giving him any chance..

Canada!

 

[conner01]

He's not safer than Tilbert if there's two spots left that means he would have to be really bad not to make the 5th or 6th spot tolbert's a lock on this team and I hate to break it to you but the more I read that the more you guys are like really drinking some stiff stuff right now...

Tolbert is every bit as safe because of his production last year as Turpin those are locks the original poster has it right those 4 DUDES are making this roster.

So that makes six receivers fighting for two spots one of them is Mingo so if you think they won't cut them then he's number 5 but he's not taking Tolbert Spock tolbert's 100 per cent safe they can all see it how could you think that what he did was somehow underwhelming it was very good and he's only getting better not worse...

Turpin is an all pro returner. He’s certainly a lock

 

[conner01]

I'd agree with that. Tolbert is far enough removed from us spending a fourth on him that he could be a bubble player now. However, I think he stepped up enough last year that we could see him as a viable candidate for No. 3 receiver snaps. It will be interesting to see among him, Turpin and Mingo. I'm not sure whoever the sixth receiver is will even be active for games.

He did play pretty good last year and does contribute on special teams which is a big deal

 

[Jipper]

No, Mingo is a lock because Jerry kept telling everyone how good he was throughout the draft process when we were all wishing we had that 4th rounder.. .

He was traded for, for 2 reasons 1) his 2nd round potential amd 2) the two full years left on his contract.

The fact he's only had a handful of games and hasn't had a full offseason means he's still in the safe zone imho

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Exactly...bad players typically don't get a ton of opportunities. If anyone had an opportunity to carve out more playing time by switching teams it was Mingo. Just 89 passing snaps in 8 games when your top two WRs both missed multiple games? Coaching staff clearly didn't feel he offered anything of value last year.

Yeah but it was some bad qb in play in there too…..

 

[thunderpimp91]

Yeah but it was some bad qb in play in there too…..

Sure but Mingo struggled to even see the field. That has nothing to do with the QB situation and everything to do with the coaching staff not feeling he was their best option.

 

[Cowboyny]

The first four are easy: Lamb, Pickens, Tolbert, Turpin.

I think they likely keep six. So, which two on the current roster have a shot to make the initial 53. And why?

Personally, my two guys are Holden and Cropper.

Holden is fast, and plays like an NFL receiver. His top speed is in the 98th percentile. He's that guy who can make plays on slams or down the field. Not the best route runner, but he gets good separation. To me, Holden is just a better football player at this point. Maybe I'm sleeping on Flournoy, but I'm giving Holden the edge over Flournoy because he plays with that so-called dog in him.

Cropper has been my pet cat since before we acquired him. The guy can just play. He's a bit undersized, but his weight and speed helps him get separation, which is a big part of his game.

Im looking for guys who can separate for WRs 5 and 6.

Why?

Because you always play a few teams that have sticky corners and so you need players with a knack for getting open, which both Holden and Cropper do well.

Not only that, I really like what they can both do after the catch.

I also like these two just for the chemistry they bring. As players, they'd give us more flexibility to run more WCO stuff, which I hope is part of the plan.

I'm not worried about draft picks spent on a player if an UDFA is better. Just go with the better player.

Which WRs do you think makes the roster and why?

I think Mingo is a lock, unless he totally bombs the offseason. They aren't going to give up on him after trading a top day 3 pick. Fournoy is another for has the inside track as he is a drafted player in just yr 2 of his development. Think Flournoy will be battling for that last spot with several.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Sure but Mingo struggled to even see the field. That has nothing to do with the QB situation and everything to do with the coaching staff not feeling he was their best option.

Who was he suppose to see the field over? He was always about the next season which is why it was a silly move.

 

[speedkilz88]

He doesn't. People are going off size/speed and predraft scouting reports, just like Jerry. It's like they don't want to admit that actual production matters and busts happen.

And I don't even like Tolbert. But he's done more than Mingo.

Mingo has actually caught more passes than Tolbert. Majority from his rookie season. Tolbert has a little more yards and 4 TDs (with Mingo zero).

 

[Loso86]

The first four are easy: Lamb, Pickens, Tolbert, Turpin.

I think they likely keep six. So, which two on the current roster have a shot to make the initial 53. And why?

Personally, my two guys are Holden and Cropper.

Holden is fast, and plays like an NFL receiver. His top speed is in the 98th percentile. He's that guy who can make plays on slams or down the field. Not the best route runner, but he gets good separation. To me, Holden is just a better football player at this point. Maybe I'm sleeping on Flournoy, but I'm giving Holden the edge over Flournoy because he plays with that so-called dog in him.

Cropper has been my pet cat since before we acquired him. The guy can just play. He's a bit undersized, but his weight and speed helps him get separation, which is a big part of his game.

Im looking for guys who can separate for WRs 5 and 6.

Why?

Because you always play a few teams that have sticky corners and so you need players with a knack for getting open, which both Holden and Cropper do well.

Not only that, I really like what they can both do after the catch.

I also like these two just for the chemistry they bring. As players, they'd give us more flexibility to run more WCO stuff, which I hope is part of the plan.

I'm not worried about draft picks spent on a player if an UDFA is better. Just go with the better player.

Which WRs do you think makes the roster and why?

They traded a 4 for Mingo, expect him to get every chance to make this team

 

[thunderpimp91]

Who was he suppose to see the field over? He was always about the next season which is why it was a silly move.

The Cowboys traded for Mingo in week 10, His first active game with the team was week 11. Both Lamb and Cooks missed multiple games in the 8 weeks Mingo was with the team, and even when Cooks did come back he took a couple week to ramp back up to get to a typical 40+ snap role. It opened up passing snaps as follows:

Flournoy - 75 snaps
Brooks - 58 snaps
Mingo - 89 snaps (which is actually a few more than I thought it would be)

Mingo basically couldn't escape the bottom of the roster rotation with Flournoy and Brooks. At very least I would have expected him to be steal more snaps from those guys. Tolbert saw 260+ snaps during that time period as well which is one of the highest rates in the league. I don't think its crazy to think that Mingo could have cut into some of those snaps had the coaches had much confidence in him. In fact from his week to week usage it looks like he got 19 pass snaps his first week with the team against Houston, and then that went down significantly just a week later against Washington at just 8. Part of that could simply be adapting to a new team, but it also tells me the Houston tape wasnt very good.