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I'd just love to know who these guys are that we want that are going to be "good value"...Mincey was a solid cheap signing last year, but you're kidding yourself if you think another guy like him is going to help this D take the next step. I fully understand not getting worked up over the top guys signing else where, but there really isn't much left at this point. I think fans have a right to be annoyed as we watch the possibilities dwindle down to almost no options left that will help the team next year.

What big signings did Seattle and New England have last year that put them over the top? Revis, and who? Not a single elite receiver on either squad. They won with draft picks.

Meanwhile, Denver signed everybody and was worse than the year before.

Remember the Eagles "Dream Team" a couple years ago?
 

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All you have to know is that we were predicted to be the worst team ever last August after a wise and prudent offseason. Every year is different but it still speaks volumes.
And I was one of the 6 - 10 bandwagon people.
They are staying the course this time.
 

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What big signings did Seattle and New England have last year that put them over the top? Revis, and who? Not a single elite receiver on either squad. They won with draft picks.

Meanwhile, Denver signed everybody and was worse than the year before.

Seattle signed Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril before 2013 and the Pats signed Revis and Browner before 2014. Both teams had holes (like we do) and went out and improved their team with key signings.

And the Broncos are a horrible example. They lost because their QB stunk at the end of the year. Their defense was significantly better in 2014 than it was 2013 after all the free agent signings.

So yeah, what was your point again?
 

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Seattle signed Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril before 2013 and the Pats signed Revis and Browner before 2014. Both teams had holes (like we do) and went out and improved their team with key signings.

And the Broncos are a horrible example. They lost because their QB stunk at the end of the year. Their defense was significantly better in 2014 than it was 2013 after all the free agent signings.

So yeah, what was your point again?

Good stuff sir!

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Seattle signed Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril before 2013 and the Pats signed Revis and Browner before 2014. Both teams had holes (like we do) and went out and improved their team with key signings.

And the Broncos are a horrible example. They lost because their QB stunk at the end of the year. Their defense was significantly better in 2014 than it was 2013 after all the free agent signings.

So yeah, what was your point again?

I'm not saying don't sign anybody. I said signing big names isn't the answer to winning Super Bowls. The teams making big splashes right now are terrible, or they have massive holes. It's not going to work.

Demarco is trying hard just to get Jermey Parnell money. Think about that.
 

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We've needed this post around here for about 3 days. Well said erod. As usual. This is why you collect likes, like Kanye collects other peoples spotlight.
 

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I'm not saying don't sign anybody. I said signing big names isn't the answer to winning Super Bowls. The teams making big splashes right now are terrible, or they have massive holes. It's not going to work.

Demarco is trying hard just to get Jermey Parnell money. Think about that.

And you still haven't answered my question of who's left...at no point did I advocate signing Suh or anyone who got crazy money. But damn would this team look 10x better if we went out and signed 2 guys like Trent Cole and Jared Odrick. Good, solid football players that won't break the bank or mortgage the teams future. So far we've watched a whole bunch of guys we can realistically afford sign elsewhere the Cowboys have done nothing. If that doesn't frustrate you then you need your pulse checked
 

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I think you somewhat missed the point.

This approach the last 2-3 years is why we are where we are.
But yes, still a ton of work to do.

We WILL be active in the FA market, just not silly about it. Will McClay and Garrett both have a voice of reason that JJ will listen to. Probably also why in the draft we took Martin instead of shiny object.

There is smart and there is complacency. If one loses talent (RB) that isn't offset by the team's biggest weakness (DE), that is not improving the team outside of natural progression that is displayed along with 31 other teams. The team has been smart (leave Carr out of discussion) but there is also bare bones talent on D. Are we going to gradually build this D into a formidable unit in Romo's window?
 

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And you still haven't answered my question of who's left...at no point did I advocate signing Suh or anyone who got crazy money. But damn would this team look 10x better if we went out and signed 2 guys like Trent Cole and Jared Odrick. Good, solid football players that won't break the bank or mortgage the teams future. So far we've watched a whole bunch of guys we can realistically afford sign elsewhere the Cowboys have done nothing. If that doesn't frustrate you then you need your pulse checked

The Cowboys are talking to Greg Hardy. How about Vince Wilfork?

I also think we'll see major improvements in Demarcus Lawrence, and perhaps the Bishop/Gardner/Coleman group will take a step forward. Then, there's the draft.

I would also like to see them do the same thing with Brandon Carr that New England did with McCourty. Move him to deep safety. Carr has good ball skills, but he's lost a step. He could be the center fielder they don't have. Church and Wilcox are the same guy, a hard-hitting strong safety. They need a ball hawk.

A lot of difference can be made from within, as well as from the outside.
 

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We've needed this post around here for about 3 days. Well said erod. As usual. This is why you collect likes, like Kanye collects other peoples spotlight.

I reluctantly accept your analogy, which I'm both appreciative and offended at the same time. Lol.
 

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There is smart and there is complacency. If one loses talent (RB) that isn't offset by the team's biggest weakness (DE), that is not improving the team outside of natural progression that is displayed along with 31 other teams. The team has been smart (leave Carr out of discussion) but there is also bare bones talent on D. Are we going to gradually build this D into a formidable unit in Romo's window?

Yeah
If we don't re-sign Murray, that money (cap space) needs to be spent on the defense. to me, that's a given.
 

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The Cowboys are talking to Greg Hardy. How about Vince Wilfork?

I also think we'll see major improvements in Demarcus Lawrence, and perhaps the Bishop/Gardner/Coleman group will take a step forward. Then, there's the draft.

I would also like to see them do the same thing with Brandon Carr that New England did with McCourty. Move him to deep safety. Carr has good ball skills, but he's lost a step. He could be the center fielder they don't have. Church and Wilcox are the same guy, a hard-hitting strong safety. They need a ball hawk.

A lot of difference can be made from within, as well as from the outside.

I think Wilfork would be strictly a one tech w/his size in this scheme though he would definitely add some meat in the middle to protect the LBers.
 

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Let 'em burn. Grab some marshmallows and a cold one, and watch the implosion of rosters and fan bases around the NFL as they slobber all over themselves over flawed temptresses and false illusions.

The 49ers are in free fall. The Eagles are no longer recognizable. Jacksonville is a Brinks truck without a GPS system to guide it. The Jets, the Bills, the Commanders.....well, they're still the Jets, Bills, and Commanders.

Meanwhile, the good teams stand pat and wait. Let the idiocy run its course, then find value and fill need with solid players that don't compromise every season through 2020. Note how little you hear from good teams during this first phase of free agency.

Stephen Jones said it best about the beginning of free agency, "You end up paying good players like great players." Yep, he's got that right.

There was a time when Jerry got caught up in the emotional energy of it all. It brought guys like Joey Galloway, La'Roi Glover, Ken Hamlin, Roy Williams, Brandon Carr - all pretty good players - but not the difference-making pieces for Super Bowl runs as hoped. Too many flaws to bandage with one or two hired hands.

I admit, I wanted Suh, and I'd like Hardy and Revis and Peterson and others. It's fun to play with other men's money and put together a seemingly perfect squad. Problem is, it never pans out that way.

It just doesn't work. These players are available for a reason, either because they bring baggage or they take up boatloads of cap space and displace too much leverage within an organization. When you owe a guy $60 million, he has an inordinate amount of power in a locker room over the coaches and players. You'd better make sure those are the right kind of guys that make that kind of money.

And so, my beloved Cowboys leave us waiting in the parlor like a nervous 16-year-old on a first date with the hottest girl in school. It's the biggest night of our life, and just another date for her.

The Cowboys are well-positioned to be opportunistic, or not. Don't lose sight of where things stand. The Cowboys are good - damned good - and will be even if they just draft their roster full.

Players want to play here again. Running backs want a chance behind that line. Receivers know what kind of ball Romo throws. Defensive players know what that offense can do for a defense, and that there's opportunity to start here on a good team. And there's always that star on the helmet that promises spotlight and attention not found in many places elsewhere.

That brings good players at fair prices. Maybe great ones at fair prices, too, but first you have to let the spending addicts have their turn. Unless a player is the final piece to a puzzle, it's best to let them go to languish in obscurity and grow old in a stack of another John's cash.

So as the Cowboys bide their time beautifully, just enjoy the overreaching, overpaying, and comical relief as bad teams try to find success through 30-day makeovers and roster supplementation. They're calling the Sham-wow guy for help in a bottle, and it ain't gonna work like the commercial.

Demarco Murray knows this. He doesn't want to leave, and he doesn't want another man running behind his offensive line. Dez has no desire to leave a fantastic situation here. Doug Free knows, too. It took stupid money to drag Parnell away, and wow are the Jaguars going to regret that one.

You have to just wait and see with Murray, and see if somebody wants to pay Hall of Fame money for just a good running back.

It's all good. Maybe Dallas gets a name guy, maybe not. Maybe Murray, maybe not. No matter what, they're going to be even better next season, so long as the great players already here stay upright, a couple of draft picks are the real deal, and a smart veteran or two are added to play Mincey-like roles.

This would be a good post if it were true. Seattle signing lots of guys, and being aggressive. So will NE, GB, and Indy,...
This is the new culture of the the NFL, either join in, or get left behind. Our no talent defense will get torched next year if we take this approach.
 

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This would be a good post if it were true. Seattle signing lots of guys, and being aggressive. So will NE, GB, and Indy,...
This is the new culture of the the NFL, either join in, or get left behind. Our no talent defense will get torched next year if we take this approach.

Seattle has lost probowl center Max Unger and their corner Byron Maxwell. They traded for Jimmy Graham. Otherwise, it's just their own dudes.

Green Bay has sit tight pretty much. So has New England, Dallas, Carolina, Baltimore, Denver, Cincinnati.....you know, the teams that make the playoffs.

It's early. Calm down. Dallas will get a few pieces for an already great young group.
 

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Seattle has lost probowl center Max Unger and their corner Byron Maxwell. They traded for Jimmy Graham. Otherwise, it's just their own dudes.

Green Bay has sit tight pretty much. So has New England, Dallas, Carolina, Baltimore, Denver, Cincinnati.....you know, the teams that make the playoffs.

It's early. Calm down. Dallas will get a few pieces for an already great young group.

Cowboys have been drafting well as of late. Building through the draft with an occasional sprinkling of mid-tier FAs is the best path forward.
 

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Seattle has lost probowl center Max Unger and their corner Byron Maxwell. They traded for Jimmy Graham. Otherwise, it's just their own dudes.

Green Bay has sit tight pretty much. So has New England, Dallas, Carolina, Baltimore, Denver, Cincinnati.....you know, the teams that make the playoffs.

It's early. Calm down. Dallas will get a few pieces for an already great young group.

Don't forget Seattle also keeping lynch, getting Williams, and going hard after Hardy and Fairly.
 

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Let 'em burn. Grab some marshmallows and a cold one, and watch the implosion of rosters and fan bases around the NFL as they slobber all over themselves over flawed temptresses and false illusions.

The 49ers are in free fall. The Eagles are no longer recognizable. Jacksonville is a Brinks truck without a GPS system to guide it. The Jets, the Bills, the Commanders.....well, they're still the Jets, Bills, and Commanders.

Meanwhile, the good teams stand pat and wait. Let the idiocy run its course, then find value and fill need with solid players that don't compromise every season through 2020. Note how little you hear from good teams during this first phase of free agency.

Stephen Jones said it best about the beginning of free agency, "You end up paying good players like great players." Yep, he's got that right.

There was a time when Jerry got caught up in the emotional energy of it all. It brought guys like Joey Galloway, La'Roi Glover, Ken Hamlin, Roy Williams, Brandon Carr - all pretty good players - but not the difference-making pieces for Super Bowl runs as hoped. Too many flaws to bandage with one or two hired hands.

I admit, I wanted Suh, and I'd like Hardy and Revis and Peterson and others. It's fun to play with other men's money and put together a seemingly perfect squad. Problem is, it never pans out that way.

It just doesn't work. These players are available for a reason, either because they bring baggage or they take up boatloads of cap space and displace too much leverage within an organization. When you owe a guy $60 million, he has an inordinate amount of power in a locker room over the coaches and players. You'd better make sure those are the right kind of guys that make that kind of money.

And so, my beloved Cowboys leave us waiting in the parlor like a nervous 16-year-old on a first date with the hottest girl in school. It's the biggest night of our life, and just another date for her.

The Cowboys are well-positioned to be opportunistic, or not. Don't lose sight of where things stand. The Cowboys are good - damned good - and will be even if they just draft their roster full.

Players want to play here again. Running backs want a chance behind that line. Receivers know what kind of ball Romo throws. Defensive players know what that offense can do for a defense, and that there's opportunity to start here on a good team. And there's always that star on the helmet that promises spotlight and attention not found in many places elsewhere.

That brings good players at fair prices. Maybe great ones at fair prices, too, but first you have to let the spending addicts have their turn. Unless a player is the final piece to a puzzle, it's best to let them go to languish in obscurity and grow old in a stack of another John's cash.

So as the Cowboys bide their time beautifully, just enjoy the overreaching, overpaying, and comical relief as bad teams try to find success through 30-day makeovers and roster supplementation. They're calling the Sham-wow guy for help in a bottle, and it ain't gonna work like the commercial.

Demarco Murray knows this. He doesn't want to leave, and he doesn't want another man running behind his offensive line. Dez has no desire to leave a fantastic situation here. Doug Free knows, too. It took stupid money to drag Parnell away, and wow are the Jaguars going to regret that one.

You have to just wait and see with Murray, and see if somebody wants to pay Hall of Fame money for just a good running back.

It's all good. Maybe Dallas gets a name guy, maybe not. Maybe Murray, maybe not. No matter what, they're going to be even better next season, so long as the great players already here stay upright, a couple of draft picks are the real deal, and a smart veteran or two are added to play Mincey-like roles.

I enjoyed the read, but I can't say I agree that this Cowboys team will still be good this upcoming season, regardless of moves or lack thereof they make. Don't get me wrong; I think the Cowboys are playing it smart for the reason's you sighted. But being smart in the offseason doesn't always promise immediate success....especially if Demarco walks and the Cowboys are unable to find his replacement or Demarco stays but is only a shell of his 2014 self.

On top of being smart in Free Agency, the Cowboys will also need to be smart during the draft. The Cowboys are in dire need of key contributors on potentially both sides of the ball, but clearly the defense above all. Once the smoke clears from Free Agency, the Cowboys will likely need to add a player to every level of defense, dependent on who they are able to add/keep: DL, LB, CB, S.

Lastly, as is always the case with every season, you have to hope for luck on the injury front similar to what the Cowboys enjoyed throughout 2014, if not better.

So again, while I agree the Cowboys are being smart right now by not being lured in by flashy names and overpaying for unworthy talent, I do not share your confidence that the Cowboys are in good shape for the upcoming season.
 
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