Who do you think is the main challenger to the Cowboys in the NFC East?

[Stash]

I'm surprised that NFL.com listed Henry as the starter. He didn't play much after his injury. If he in fact did play that game it probably wasn't much. And if he was on the field, he was a shell of the player that started the season.

I think at some point they tried to get him back on the field but to no avail. This may have been the game.

 

[riggo]

I'm surprised that NFL.com listed Henry as the starter. He didn't play much after his injury. If he in fact did play that game it probably wasn't much. And if he was on the field, he was a shell of the player that started the season.

I think at some point they tried to get him back on the field but to no avail. This may have been the game.

the link may be incorrect. they have the skins prioleau listed as a LB

interesting that rogers didnt play that day. and clark and harris weren't considered good enough to keep- they were both let go. still, even with those 'scrubs', the skins secondary was outstanding...imagine how they'll be with better players this year.

 

[stilltheguru]

at least youre not saying davis/coleman are better than taylor. rogers was a rookie last year. he may be better than henry this year- he looks good. can't say much about glenn- in his games vs the skins, he was not impressive.

brunells numbers were a little better than decent- 6 TD's, 1 INT. bledsoes 2 TD's (one on a trick play- yes, it counts- just like brunells 2 'lucky' passes due to 'miscommunication' count- but when youre talking about QB performance, you dont hang your hat on it, and one in gargage time after brunell and the skins had built a 35-0 lead) and 3 INT's dont look so good if we're comparing our teams secondarys.

i have a serious question- you brought up cowboys injuries. i know your entire secondary- the one that doesnt even compare to the skins according to one poster- played that second game. who else was hurt? here's the link to the line up-

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/gamebook/NFL_20051218_DAL@WAS

judging a players just based on his games against your team is the great way of analyzing him.tsk tsk tsk

 

[stilltheguru]

the link may be incorrect. they have the skins prioleau listed as a LB

interesting that rogers didnt play that day. and clark and harris weren't considered good enough to keep- they were both let go. still, even with those 'scrubs', the skins secondary was outstanding...imagine how they'll be with better players this year.

a secondary seems to look outstanding when the qb has little to no time in the pocket.but heyyyyyyyyyy

 

[riggo]

judging a players just based on his games against your team is the great way of analyzing him.tsk tsk tsk

bizwah and i were actually talking specifically about brunells performance vs the cowboys secondary.

you should have read before you posted. tsk tsk....

 

[riggo]

a secondary seems to look outstanding when the qb has little to no time in the pocket.but heyyyyyyyyyy

again, we were talking about the boys D being banged up- not their O line.

please read.

 

[stilltheguru]

glenn just is not fast enough for moss.moss has unique speed that only a few people have.if u really looked at the games and have a feel of how to rate a cb you would see that glenn was there most of the time on moss but moss just separated at the last moment.

so to say glenn was not impressive is weak.moss is just that good on deep balls.


but dont worry, when we put newman on moss its a WRAP.

 

[stilltheguru]

again, we were talking about the boys D being banged up- not their O line.

please read.

you said the skins secondary looked outstanding and i said why they looked outstanding.because our o line gave us no time.so yes i did read that.

 

[Stash]

the link may be incorrect. they have the skins prioleau listed as a LB

interesting that rogers didnt play that day. and clark and harris weren't considered good enough to keep- they were both let go. still, even with those 'scrubs', the skins secondary was outstanding...imagine how they'll be with better players this year.

Doesn't hurt the 'Skins secondary when the real "scrubs" were playing at tackle for the Cowboys. Pretty pathetic when a mediocre defensive end like Philip Daniels gets 4 sacks.

When Dallas' offensive line was healthy and whole, the Commanders couldn't get close enough to Drew Bledsoe to positively identify him.

 

[Stash]

glenn just is not fast enough for moss.moss has unique speed that only a few people have.if u really looked at the games and have a feel of how to rate a cb you would see that glenn was there most of the time on moss but moss just separated at the last moment.

so to say glenn was not impressive is weak.moss is just that good on deep balls.


but dont worry, when we put newman on moss its a WRAP.

Looking at game tape, the only time Moss did anything was when they schemed to get him away from Terrance Newman. I give them credit for seeing that and adjusting to it. The fact is that after the first catch, Dallas should have readjusted to it.

 

[riggo]

glenn just is not fast enough for moss.moss has unique speed that only a few people have.if u really looked at the games and have a feel of how to rate a cb you would see that glenn was there most of the time on moss but moss just separated at the last moment.

so to say glenn was not impressive is weak.moss is just that good on deep balls.


but dont worry, when we put newman on moss its a WRAP.

well, glenn/williams got beat twice on deep balls with a 13/6 point lead in the closing minutes of a game. and he got beat by moss for a 42 yarder in game 2.

you want me to say he was impressive?

 

[AsthmaField]

interesting that rogers didnt play that day. and clark and harris weren't considered good enough to keep- they were both let go. still, even with those 'scrubs', the skins secondary was outstanding...imagine how they'll be with better players this year.

Comparing the secondaries in that game is useless. It was simply one of those games and nothing about it is indicative of how those players normally play. Just like the Giants game that the Skins were blown out in isn't indicative of anything.

Look at the whole season to get an idea of what type of players are on each team. What did Newman do all year? What did Springs do all year? We know they both played very well all year long. However... looking at just the second game we played against each other last year, you'd think that Springs and Rogers are worlds better than Newman and Henry. However ask any NFL coach or scout and he'd tell you that isn't the case.

Newman and Henry are very good corners. Springs and Rogers are good too. Who's the best is a matter of opinion, and I think our guys are better than your's. I could be wrong... but either way both Dallas and Washington have some good players in the secondary.

 

[RiggoForever]

Comparing the secondaries in that game is useless. It was simply one of those games and nothing about it is indicative of how those players normally play. Just like the Giants game that the Skins were blown out in isn't indicative of anything.

Look at the whole season to get an idea of what type of players are on each team. What did Newman do all year? What did Springs do all year? We know they both played very well all year long. However... looking at just the second game we played against each other last year, you'd think that Springs and Rogers are worlds better than Newman and Henry. However ask any NFL coach or scout and he'd tell you that isn't the case.

Newman and Henry are very good corners. Springs and Rogers are good too. Who's the best is a matter of opinion, and I think our guys are better than your's. I could be wrong... but either way both Dallas and Washington have some good players in the secondary.

Actually I believe we attacked the LB corps in the second game. I didn't see any really big plays against Newman or Henry, the big catch by Moss came against Glenn.

Gibbs did a really good job of identifying the soft spots of the Dallas defense and attacking them. For example, Cooley beating Demarcus Ware for a touchdown...attacking an inexperienced rookie playing the 3-4 scheme.

The secondary, particularly Newman and Henry, are not soft spots.

If Dallas' LB corps improve, and they should with Ayodele and Carpenter, I expect the game to be very difficult.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

unless eli makes a huge leap, the giants aren't going to be scoring that many points....

they scored alot of points last year, IMO, Eli gets a bit better this year, he's a Manning, so I think they'll be scoring in bunches again, except when they play against us

 

[superpunk]

they scored alot of points last year, IMO, Eli gets a bit better this year, he's a Manning, so I think they'll be scoring in bunches again, except when they play against us

I'm telling newaged.....

 

[Bob Sacamano]

the addition of Sam Madison that does not get enough credit, this guy is a very good corner.

Madison USED to be a very good corner, he's been getting burnt for a couple of years now

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Questions with the Skins O-line?! That's news to me.

T - Samuels and Jansen are 2 of the 10 best in the league
G - Thomas is a top 5 guard and Dockery is solid at the least
C - Rabach is average but is still the best C in the East

I agree with everything, but Dockery sucks!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Explain where Dallas is deeper then Washington at any other position besides linebacker.

uh, Dline, CB, S, RB, plus LB

 

[Bob Sacamano]

you again with your clever redstink comment. Theres a reason hes a fan fav. and thats cuz he produces with the few carries he does get, including that great game he had against St Louis last season(and yes i know st louis was horrible last year).

but he's not good for 500 yards and 6 TDs

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Ok, I'll concede you may be deeper on OL, because Petitti (though not good) got in a full season last year, but someone like Adams isn't really replaceable...just like Jansen and Samuels aren't replaceable on our line. However we do have Jim Molinaro, and we did sign Mike Pucillo and Tyson Walter for depth. I don't see either team having a legitimate starter ready to come in if theres an OL injury.

For RB we have Ladell Betts ( a solid player who spells Portis). We also have Rock Cartwright (who had a 100 yard game last year), and a couple of others battling to make the team in training camp.

On the DL we didn't lose anyone from last year, we signed Andre Carter...drafted a DT, have Reynaldo Wynn (a starter last year), and Demetric Evans as backups with Carter, Salave'a, Griffin, and Daniels as the starters.

just because you have bodies, doesn't necessarily make them the type of depth we're talking about...good depth, I'll give you that you have good RB depth, but that's it

why can't you guys admit that you're one of the thinnest teams in the NFL, if not THE thinnest team, in terms of depth?