Who do you think is the main challenger to the Cowboys in the NFC East?

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our offensive line....hopefully it won't be...."offensive"
 

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you know if nothing else comes from this thread, ive realized that 5Stars hates the Commanders lol
 

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baj1dallas said:
iirc Washington didn't blitz hardly any in that first game last year...I remember us being baffled but thankful.

Gregg Williams said we never play "prevent defense" and we always attack if not an allout blitz, at least the appearance of one.. He said on the final fourth down stop...Bledsoe had to throw the ball earlier then he wanted to Glenn, who was subsequently stopped short off the fourth down mark.
 

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DragonCowboy said:
I wouldn't be so sure. We had your number for Game 2. Just 2 minutes left, you guys beat us, we underestimated Santana Moss. We were the better team then.

Then, for the second game, you had everything going in your way, and we had everything going against us. We had plentiful injuries, you had few.

Don't be surprised if you get swept again. If that happens, you better eat your crow.

I don't expect a sweep either way, but I do expect a split. If you all sweep us, I won't make excuses. I didn't make excuses when Crayton caught the long TD pass last year, in a game in which we outplayed you.

A loss is a loss and a win is a win. I don't care if we get dominated in every statistical category as long as we win.
 

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rdsknsbaby said:
again the Commanders will win the division.... and no im not saying this just to say it.... look at our team. We are the best in the NFCE... Bookmark the page.

skins magic last year was an illusion
The QB position catches up to them this year...if ST is in jail the defense won't be as solid either
Don't take for granted that Saunders' offensive scheme will fit the skins personnel either
And also remember that every team in the division got better this offseason...well the iggles could be debatable but probably a little better....
 

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rdsknsbaby said:
again the Commanders will win the division.... and no im not saying this just to say it.... look at our team. We are the best in the NFCE... Bookmark the page.
Based on what? Your opinion?
 

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redskins1 said:
hostile,what you are saying in terms of what happen last year,and it not happening this season can apply to any team,the bottom line is based on the Commanders coaching and talent,they will be a very strong team again this year,and yes good enough to sweep your cowboys again.believe it or not our d dominated both games,its just that in game one we had no offense until the last 3 min...
Duh.

Take a lesson from the whale, the only time he gets harpooned is when he comes up to spout. Prior to last season no one would have killed off the Eagles and look what happened. So best of luck with your spouting. Don't mind that sharp pain in your side. It's just a harpoon.
 

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Hostile said:
Duh.

Take a lesson from the whale, the only time he gets harpooned is when he comes up to spout. Prior to last season no one would have killed off the Eagles and look what happened. So best of luck with your spouting. Don't mind that sharp pain in your side. It's just a harpoon.
If I am the one in control, that sharp pain won't be in the side.
 

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Future 585 said:
you know if nothing else comes from this thread, ive realized that 5Stars hates the Commanders lol

:starspin :starspin :starspin :starspin :starspin

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lostinomiya said:
ok, for a start please dont dismiss them and say they are all no good because there are four talented teams in the nfc east. so....

i honestly dont know, and i would like to know who you think is the main challenger to the cowboys next season in the nfc east? and please explain why...thankyou.....

i don't know why alot of homers are dismissin, the eagles. i say the eagles, are gonna b strong contenders this year. mcnabb, will not let the team die, they will b back this year. i don't know why alot of fans think the skins, are gonna have a good year. why cause of all the players they picked up.they do the same, year after year, and they never go nowere, plain n simple the eagles, are the strongest contenders, 2 the cowboys.
 

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Based on most poster's lucky guesses, football logic/saavy, wishful thinking and other related mechanisms to predict the outcome of the 2006 NFC-East division, here's what it will look like ...

Dallas Cowboys
y-clinched division title
z-clinched first-round bye
*-clinched homefield advantage

New York Giants
x-clinched playoff berth

Washington Commanders

Philadelphia Eagles

From this Eagle fan's perspective, I'd be very reluctant to make the call right now. But I can't see how a fan from another franchise could possibly speak with any authority about an opponent team.

How many times have we felt that a team was so loaded up star athletes and play-makers, that they just couldn't lose, or would go
all-the-way...yet on any given Sunday; ...or due to injuries; ...or due to an unhappy key player (no names...) holding out for more millions ...

Talent-wise I thinkthe NFCE has a nice blend of veterans/rookies accross. Although that talent mixture may be disproportionate on some NFCE offensive squads/defensive squads than others.

Football Saavy Fans ...will tell you that games are won and lost at the line of scrimmage -- I believe that too. That's why before I make an educated prediction, I'd like to know what my OL is made of; including depth. On the other side of the ball, I'd like to know how effective will my DEs be in putting needed pressure on the the opponents QB.

X-Factors ... the "X" factor is an Unknown variable which could include the dreaded injuries on one end of the continuum ...to a rookie developing into a play-maker/star performer.

Historical speaking ...teams with the most SB victories/appearances should at least make the playoffs; but that didn't happen last year. On the same note, teams that were at the bottom probably remain there if all things remain unchanged -- have all things remained the same?

The Underdog concept ...the "upset," the "unexpected team" that came out of nowhere, the inspired "team that has something to prove," may all push the team at the bottom to the top of the heap. In all fairness, good that have occasional bad games also could be defined as bad that have the occasional good games ...is a formula that could work either way.

That said, 2005 was a very bad year for the Philadelphia Eagles. Technically, my team is owned by every team in the NFCE. Hence, there's No talk about the Eagles taking the NFCE, and you'll probably hear those that will tell you that our "window" has shut. How long does it take for a window to re-open (wouldn't the Cowboys know about windows opening and closing?)? Was 2005 a window shutting event, or was it a series of injuries to key players, without the benefit of having depth?

2005 has taught this Eagles fan not to be too eager to claim a victory wothout knowing how things will play out. It's taught this Eagles fan that "one" player can make a difference on a team (positive or negative), and make a significant impact on the overall season.

I think I like the way most of you have conveniently placed the Eagles on the bOttom of the NFCE challenger list. Minimum pressure, way under the radar screen, we'll take the under-rated position.

But I think many of you (not all) have made some serious misjudgements about the 2006 Eagles!

Tally Ho!;)
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
Based on most poster's lucky guesses, football logic/saavy, wishful thinking and other related mechanisms to predict the outcome of the 2006 NFC-East division, here's what it will look like ...

Dallas Cowboys
y-clinched division title
z-clinched first-round bye
*-clinched homefield advantage

What do you expect?

This is a Cowboy's board. Of course, there's going to be plenty of homerism.

If my daughter enters a beauty contest, I think she'll win. I think she's the most beautiful little girl on earth. Ask any other dad on this site, and I'm sure they'll say the exact same thing.

We all get excited this time of year. Right now, we know anything can happen. In today's NFL a team can go from rags to riches overnight.

If you want to hear unbiased opinions of all NFC East teams, this isn't the place to hear it. Nor will you hear it on any other fan board.
 

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bobbie brewskie said:
WR - its not a toss up between Dallas and Washington because washington doesnt have a #2 WR, instead they have 3 #3 WRs

lloyd put up solid #'s, if not spectacular, with 4 QBs who combined for 8 TDs in an entire season ( including one who didnt throw a TD pass -while throwing 11 INTs in 7 games- til his last game)-and averaged just over 110 pass yards per game. i'd say he's a solid #2.

Secondary - once again Dallas is better than Washington but other than that i agree, like said before:
Archuleta <<<< Williams
Taylor <<<< Davis or Coleman

at CB we have what could be the best CB in the league (Newman) and Henry who until his groin injury was a top5 or 10 CB in the league, with Glenn at #3 (one of the best NB in the league)

sorry but Washingtons secondary doesnt exactly compare to Dallas'

you must have mis-typed. taylor < davis or coleman?

i dont have an opinion on arch yet. but saying the skins secondary doesnt compare is a little homerific. the skins secondary is very good. dallas' should be good as well this year. brunell put up nice #s vs dallas secondary.....
 

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riggo said:
lloyd put up solid #'s, if not spectacular, with 4 QBs who combined for 8 TDs in an entire season ( including one who didnt throw a TD pass -while throwing 11 INTs in 7 games- til his last game)-and averaged just over 110 pass yards per game. i'd say he's a solid #2.



you must have mis-typed. taylor < davis or coleman?

i dont have an opinion on arch yet. but saying the skins secondary doesnt compare is a little homerific. the skins secondary is very good. dallas' should be good as well this year. brunell put up nice #s vs dallas secondary.....

The Skins secondary is very good.....Ours is simply better.

Again, I'll try to be objective here...we're better at 3 of the 4 secondary positions.

Newman is better than Springs
Henry is better than Rogers
Williams is better than Archuletta

The only spot you have on us is Taylor over Coleman/Watkins/Davis. Our 3rd CB (Glenn) is pretty darn good too.

Again, both of us have good secondaries......And although Brunell had decent numbers...take a closer look. He lucked out in the first game with two miscommunications in the secondary....until those two plays, Brunell was having a pathetic outing. In the second game, we were beat up all over with injuries.

Stats don't always tell the whole story.
 

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Bizwah said:
The Skins secondary is very good.....Ours is simply better.

Again, I'll try to be objective here...we're better at 3 of the 4 secondary positions.

Newman is better than Springs
Henry is better than Rogers
Williams is better than Archuletta

The only spot you have on us is Taylor over Coleman/Watkins/Davis. Our 3rd CB (Glenn) is pretty darn good too.

Again, both of us have good secondaries......And although Brunell had decent numbers...take a closer look. He lucked out in the first game with two miscommunications in the secondary....until those two plays, Brunell was having a pathetic outing. In the second game, we were beat up all over with injuries.

Stats don't always tell the whole story.

That sounds fair to me, of course the book isn't finished on wether or not Taylor will play next year.
 

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Jarv said:
That sounds fair to me, of course the book isn't finished on wether or not Taylor will play next year.

I'd be surprised if either team scores over 20 in each game, despite the additional talent on the offensive side of the ball for both teams.

If ST goes to jail, I won't lie and say it won't hurt. ST can do things others can't. But thus far from what I've heard, I'd be surprised if he's found guilty as the evidence and credibility of the witnesses is shaky to say the least.
 

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Bizwah said:
The Skins secondary is very good.....Ours is simply better.

Again, I'll try to be objective here...we're better at 3 of the 4 secondary positions.

Newman is better than Springs
Henry is better than Rogers
Williams is better than Archuletta

The only spot you have on us is Taylor over Coleman/Watkins/Davis. Our 3rd CB (Glenn) is pretty darn good too.

Again, both of us have good secondaries......And although Brunell had decent numbers...take a closer look. He lucked out in the first game with two miscommunications in the secondary....until those two plays, Brunell was having a pathetic outing. In the second game, we were beat up all over with injuries.

Stats don't always tell the whole story.


Well big plays often happen with miscommunications in the secondary. That's how Glenn torched us on the flea flicker. We bit.
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
Based on most poster's lucky guesses, football logic/saavy, wishful thinking and other related mechanisms to predict the outcome of the 2006 NFC-East division, here's what it will look like ...

Dallas Cowboys
y-clinched division title
z-clinched first-round bye
*-clinched homefield advantage

New York Giants
x-clinched playoff berth

Washington Commanders

Philadelphia Eagles

From this Eagle fan's perspective, I'd be very reluctant to make the call right now. But I can't see how a fan from another franchise could possibly speak with any authority about an opponent team.

How many times have we felt that a team was so loaded up star athletes and play-makers, that they just couldn't lose, or would go
all-the-way...yet on any given Sunday; ...or due to injuries; ...or due to an unhappy key player (no names...) holding out for more millions ...

Talent-wise I thinkthe NFCE has a nice blend of veterans/rookies accross. Although that talent mixture may be disproportionate on some NFCE offensive squads/defensive squads than others.

Football Saavy Fans ...will tell you that games are won and lost at the line of scrimmage -- I believe that too. That's why before I make an educated prediction, I'd like to know what my OL is made of; including depth. On the other side of the ball, I'd like to know how effective will my DEs be in putting needed pressure on the the opponents QB.

X-Factors ... the "X" factor is an Unknown variable which could include the dreaded injuries on one end of the continuum ...to a rookie developing into a play-maker/star performer.

Historical speaking ...teams with the most SB victories/appearances should at least make the playoffs; but that didn't happen last year. On the same note, teams that were at the bottom probably remain there if all things remain unchanged -- have all things remained the same?

The Underdog concept ...the "upset," the "unexpected team" that came out of nowhere, the inspired "team that has something to prove," may all push the team at the bottom to the top of the heap. In all fairness, good that have occasional bad games also could be defined as bad that have the occasional good games ...is a formula that could work either way.

That said, 2005 was a very bad year for the Philadelphia Eagles. Technically, my team is owned by every team in the NFCE. Hence, there's No talk about the Eagles taking the NFCE, and you'll probably hear those that will tell you that our "window" has shut. How long does it take for a window to re-open (wouldn't the Cowboys know about windows opening and closing?)? Was 2005 a window shutting event, or was it a series of injuries to key players, without the benefit of having depth?

2005 has taught this Eagles fan not to be too eager to claim a victory wothout knowing how things will play out. It's taught this Eagles fan that "one" player can make a difference on a team (positive or negative), and make a significant impact on the overall season.

I think I like the way most of you have conveniently placed the Eagles on the bOttom of the NFCE challenger list. Minimum pressure, way under the radar screen, we'll take the under-rated position.

But I think many of you (not all) have made some serious misjudgements about the 2006 Eagles!

Tally Ho!;)

Seems to me it's you who's made the misjudgement by i trying to ignore the fact that your team was the best of a terrible NFC. Your Eagles never beat any team who could be considered any good. When they did meet a quality team they lost - every time. They cruised through a pathetic NFC East for several years. And now that the rest of the division has passed them by, the "free ride" is over.

The Eagles had their opportunity to win a championship but squandered it. In the annals of football history, they're not even the Buffalo Bills.

:trophy:
 

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Bizwah said:
The Skins secondary is very good.....Ours is simply better.

Again, I'll try to be objective here...we're better at 3 of the 4 secondary positions.

Newman is better than Springs
Henry is better than Rogers
Williams is better than Archuletta

The only spot you have on us is Taylor over Coleman/Watkins/Davis. Our 3rd CB (Glenn) is pretty darn good too.

Again, both of us have good secondaries......And although Brunell had decent numbers...take a closer look. He lucked out in the first game with two miscommunications in the secondary....until those two plays, Brunell was having a pathetic outing. In the second game, we were beat up all over with injuries.

Stats don't always tell the whole story.

at least youre not saying davis/coleman are better than taylor. rogers was a rookie last year. he may be better than henry this year- he looks good. can't say much about glenn- in his games vs the skins, he was not impressive.

brunells numbers were a little better than decent- 6 TD's, 1 INT. bledsoes 2 TD's (one on a trick play- yes, it counts- just like brunells 2 'lucky' passes due to 'miscommunication' count- but when youre talking about QB performance, you dont hang your hat on it, and one in gargage time after brunell and the skins had built a 35-0 lead) and 3 INT's dont look so good if we're comparing our teams secondarys.

i have a serious question- you brought up cowboys injuries. i know your entire secondary- the one that doesnt even compare to the skins according to one poster- played that second game. who else was hurt? here's the link to the line up-

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/gamebook/NFL_20051218_DAL@WAS
 
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