Who do you think is the main challenger to the Cowboys in the NFC East?

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LMAO, good luck with that. There aren't many, if any that can stay with Glenn one on one.

im mad that you beat me to that post :bang2: haha but you are exactly right. i will take glenn in man coverage on shawn springs all day every day. no way can he be quick enough to stay with him.

As for the rest of the NFCE, the only team i am particularly afraid of is the Giants. Arrington was a great pickup for them, as was the addition of Sam Madison that does not get enough credit, this guy is a very good corner. That offense with Sinorice Moss now has a speed receiver to go w/ Plax...this could be very similar to Key and Smith in car, just not quite as talented.

The Eagles are on the decline as well. They have a couple of WRs that could be decent, but nothing special and McNabb and Westbrook alone are not enough. LJ Smith could be a big play guy at TE but with weak WRs a safety can cover him w/ a LB. That defense is still very succeptable to the run and i think their DEs in Kearse and Howard are vastly overrated.

Washington overachieved last year and they spent too much money on guys that dont deserve it. For archuleta to be the highest payed safety baffles me and they still lack a possession receiver even though they signed brandon lloyd to be that guy. The defense should be alright as rogers has another year, but so does springs and that DLine is still very questionable.

Overall i think it is dallas' division for the taking. Of course, the OLine has to stay healthy more than anything but i like their matchups on offesne and the defense is going to be very good this year. I think it will end up like this

1. DAL 12-4 (4-2)
2. NYG 11-5 (4-2)
3. WAS 9-7 (3-3)
4. PHI 7-9 (2-4)
 

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I think the Commanders will be tough once again. Their O-line was a strength for them last year, as well as their D. The Giants will be right there as well in my opinion. We definitely need our O-line to improve and stay healthy for us to lead the pack in the NFC East.
 

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cannonball44 said:
main challenger to the Cowboys in the NFC EAST?


















The Dallas Cowboys
As much as I want to say the Giants......I believe your answer may be closer to accurite.
 

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All teams have questions in the parity era but some teams have mnay more than others.

The main reason I believe they should be the favorite in unbiased analysis is depth. They are the deepest team in the division and aside from FS, any of that 2 deep could start at many other teams in the league. Greg Ellis, Aaron Glenn, Al Singleton are all likely to be 2nd teamers on the team.

The Giants would be my pick except Eli is still young. He had a few awful games last year and the division is simply too good to afford that this season.

Washington is relying on Brunell. A guy who passed for more yardage last season than he had in 5 years and who passed for the most TDs of his career last season. The backup is gone and while Campbell may one day be a legit NFL QB he is certiainly not going to be the day he takes the field the first time. The OL and DL are both thin as can be. Sean Taylor has legal issues.

Explain where Dallas is deeper then Washington at any other position besides linebacker.
 

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Santana Moss' 40 time coming out of college: 4.31

Terence Newman's 40 time coming out of college: 4.39

So, Moss is faster, but its basically insignificant. If you count that Newman starts further downfield than Moss, it'll even out.
 

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DragonCowboy said:
Santana Moss' 40 time coming out of college: 4.31

Terence Newman's 40 time coming out of college: 4.39

So, Moss is faster, but its basically insignificant. If you count that Newman starts further downfield than Moss, it'll even out.

.08 difference in the 40 is pretty significant if you ask me.
 

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Explain where Dallas is deeper then Washington at any other position besides linebacker.

Who do you have at OL besides your first stringers? (Not a rhetorical question, I want to know)

The way BP is building our line is...

Adams, Kosier, Johnson, Rivera, Fabini

if Adams goes down:

A possibility is for Kosier to take the LT position, and have Andre Gurode take the LG position.

if Kosier goes down:

Andre Gurode takes the LG position.

if Johnson goes down:

Andre Gurode or maybe EJ Whitley takes the C position.

if Rivera goes down:

Andre Gurode takes Rivera's spot.

if Fabini goes down:

Maybe Kosier could take his position and have Gurode play LG, or maybe Petitti or Columbo can play instead.

And don't forget Peterman. If he goes behind Gurode (he might be ahead of Gurode and take all the above positions that I said Gurode would take), and Gurode goes down, Peterman will fill in.

Although our line isn't really good, we have backups so that an injury won't kill us again.

OG:
Kyle Kosier (can also play OT)
Stephen Peterman
Marco Rivera
(I'm probably forgetting people)

OT:
Jason Fabini
Flozell Adams
Rob Petitti
Marc Columbo

C:
Al Johnson
Andre Gurode (can also play OG)
EJ Whitley


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Also, don't forget the RB position.

Who do you have behind Clinton Portis who can effectively run the ball?

We have MB3 behind Julius Jones in case he gets injured.

We probably have better depth at DL also.

DE:
Greg Ellis
Jason Hatcher
Jay Ratliff?
Chris Canty
Marcus Spears
(anyone else?)

NT:
Jason Ferguson
Thomas Johnson
Montavious Stanley
 

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we have ladell betts who everyone loves as Portis' backup, and behind him is Rock cartright....another fan fav. We love our RB situation.
 

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apickmans said:
....another fan fav. We love our RB situation.


:lmao2:

Fan favorites don't win football games....! RedStink logic, once again!

:dissskin:
 

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Giants have improved their secondary which stank - but they still have Manning and his inaccuracy. Plus their O line is weakening.
Skins O line has a couple of question marks in it- not as many as ours.
Brunnell is fragile; if he goes down their season is over. Archuleta is past his prime and who knows what the story will be with Taylor. Randle El will really help their return game but do not expect much receiving help from him.
The Birds have no strong running attack- their whole offense is basically McFlabb and Westbrook- which ain't going to do it against good D's.
Their D will be better then last year but not as good as it was. Reid screwed up by not finding a real #1 WR. His obsession with drafting O and D linemen is not a bad one to have but they really needed Offensive skill people.

Questions with the Skins O-line?! That's news to me.

T - Samuels and Jansen are 2 of the 10 best in the league
G - Thomas is a top 5 guard and Dockery is solid at the least
C - Rabach is average but is still the best C in the East
 

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5Stars said:
:lmao2:

Fan favorites don't win football games....! RedStink logic, once again!

:dissskin:

you again with your clever redstink comment. Theres a reason hes a fan fav. and thats cuz he produces with the few carries he does get, including that great game he had against St Louis last season(and yes i know st louis was horrible last year).
 

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the skins are definitely the team to watch out for in teh east....unless eli makes a huge leap, the giants aren't going to be scoring that many points....and while the defense will keep them in games, eli is going to turn it over some....as long as brunell stays upright, he has enough help at receiver to do damage to any secondary....because santana moss alone is faster than anyone in our defensive backfield....including newman....so with the addition of another speedster in randle el plus a solid 3rd option in lloyd, not to mention cooley going over the middle and portis catching a pass every now and again....and you have our only real comp in teh division....the eagles pretty much got old overnight...and the division has improved too much for them to win it with basically the same offensive weapons they had during their years of dominance...its going to be a great season, damn it......

man i hate the skins!

The Giants scored the 3rd most points in the league last season. I hate them too, but where do you get this stuff?
 

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Santana might be the fastest player in the league.

And you "might" be a brain surgeon...but I doubt it! :lmao2:

:dissskin:
 

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apickmans said:
you again with your clever redstink comment. Theres a reason hes a fan fav. and thats cuz he produces with the few carries he does get, including that great game he had against St Louis last season(and yes i know st louis was horrible last year).

Yo...did you know that Quincy Carter was a favorite to some fans? How did that work out? RedStink logic! :lmao:


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you again with your clever redstink comment. Theres a reason hes a fan fav. and thats cuz he produces with the few carries he does get, including that great game he had against St Louis last season(and yes i know st louis was horrible last year).

Ok, you have Betts and Cartwright. Yeah, but they don't scare me in the least.

Ok, last year, Betts carried the rock 89 times in 12 games. That's less than 8 carries per game.

Cartwright carried the rock 27 times in 16 games. That's less than 2 carries per game.

Last year, Portis carried the ball 352 times in 16 games. That's 22 carries per game.

So, the team averages about 32 carries per game, not including noodle-arm's runs.

Can Betts and Cartwright combine for that many carries? I don't think they have the gas in the tank to do that.

Who would you rather have, Betts or Marion Barber III, Cartwright or Thompson/Summers?

I would very much prefer our depth, even though Portis is better than Jones.
 
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