Who do you think is the main challenger to the Cowboys in the NFC East?

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DragonCowboy said:
I would very much prefer our depth, even though Portis is better than Jones.
Portis and his shoulder problems need to be factored in as well. He was really hurting towards the end of last year.
 

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Portis and his shoulder problems need to be factored in as well. He was really hurting towards the end of last year.

He just had a stinger from taking out Sheldon Quarles on a block. That being said, I hope this year he doesn't have to carry the ball as much for our offense to be effective.
 

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Santana might be the fastest player in the league.

Yes, Santana is faster than Newman.

For a gap of .08 seconds in a 40 time.

As for fastest player in the league, no, lay off the peace pipe.
 

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Did anyone see this years NFL Quarterback Challenge?

Mark Brusmell of the RedStinks was totally horrible! I watched him try to hit those moving targets...and that fool might have hit one or two of the close ones, but the others....? :lmao2:

When he goes down this season...see ya....! :laugh1:

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DragonCowboy said:
Who do you have at OL besides your first stringers? (Not a rhetorical question, I want to know)

The way BP is building our line is...

Adams, Kosier, Johnson, Rivera, Fabini

if Adams goes down:

A possibility is for Kosier to take the LT position, and have Andre Gurode take the LG position.

if Kosier goes down:

Andre Gurode takes the LG position.

if Johnson goes down:

Andre Gurode or maybe EJ Whitley takes the C position.

if Rivera goes down:

Andre Gurode takes Rivera's spot.

if Fabini goes down:

Maybe Kosier could take his position and have Gurode play LG, or maybe Petitti or Columbo can play instead.

And don't forget Peterman. If he goes behind Gurode (he might be ahead of Gurode and take all the above positions that I said Gurode would take), and Gurode goes down, Peterman will fill in.

Although our line isn't really good, we have backups so that an injury won't kill us again.

OG:
Kyle Kosier (can also play OT)
Stephen Peterman
Marco Rivera
(I'm probably forgetting people)

OT:
Jason Fabini
Flozell Adams
Rob Petitti
Marc Columbo

C:
Al Johnson
Andre Gurode (can also play OG)
EJ Whitley


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Also, don't forget the RB position.

Who do you have behind Clinton Portis who can effectively run the ball?

We have MB3 behind Julius Jones in case he gets injured.

We probably have better depth at DL also.

DE:
Greg Ellis
Jason Hatcher
Jay Ratliff?
Chris Canty
Marcus Spears
(anyone else?)

NT:
Jason Ferguson
Thomas Johnson
Montavious Stanley

Ok, I'll concede you may be deeper on OL, because Petitti (though not good) got in a full season last year, but someone like Adams isn't really replaceable...just like Jansen and Samuels aren't replaceable on our line. However we do have Jim Molinaro, and we did sign Mike Pucillo and Tyson Walter for depth. I don't see either team having a legitimate starter ready to come in if theres an OL injury.

For RB we have Ladell Betts ( a solid player who spells Portis). We also have Rock Cartwright (who had a 100 yard game last year), and a couple of others battling to make the team in training camp.

On the DL we didn't lose anyone from last year, we signed Andre Carter...drafted a DT, have Reynaldo Wynn (a starter last year), and Demetric Evans as backups with Carter, Salave'a, Griffin, and Daniels as the starters.
 

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DeAngelo Hall - 4.15 40-time
Kevin Jones - 4.2 40-time
Santana Moss - 4.31 40-time

Nice try, play again, "mossburner"
 

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DragonCowboy said:
Who do you have at OL besides your first stringers? (Not a rhetorical question, I want to know)

The way BP is building our line is...

Adams, Kosier, Johnson, Rivera, Fabini

if Adams goes down:

A possibility is for Kosier to take the LT position, and have Andre Gurode take the LG position.

if Kosier goes down:

Andre Gurode takes the LG position.

if Johnson goes down:

Andre Gurode or maybe EJ Whitley takes the C position.

if Rivera goes down:

Andre Gurode takes Rivera's spot.

if Fabini goes down:

Maybe Kosier could take his position and have Gurode play LG, or maybe Petitti or Columbo can play instead.

And don't forget Peterman. If he goes behind Gurode (he might be ahead of Gurode and take all the above positions that I said Gurode would take), and Gurode goes down, Peterman will fill in.

Although our line isn't really good, we have backups so that an injury won't kill us again.

OG:
Kyle Kosier (can also play OT)
Stephen Peterman
Marco Rivera
(I'm probably forgetting people)

OT:
Jason Fabini
Flozell Adams
Rob Petitti
Marc Columbo

C:
Al Johnson
Andre Gurode (can also play OG)
EJ Whitley


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Also, don't forget the RB position.

Who do you have behind Clinton Portis who can effectively run the ball?

We have MB3 behind Julius Jones in case he gets injured.

We probably have better depth at DL also.

DE:
Greg Ellis
Jason Hatcher
Jay Ratliff?
Chris Canty
Marcus Spears
(anyone else?)

NT:
Jason Ferguson
Thomas Johnson
Montavious Stanley

Only positions we are deeper at then the skins are...

Linebacker
Defensive End
Tight Ends
Runningback a tad
Safetys

best believe that... fools
 

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RiggoForever said:
Ok, I'll concede you may be deeper on OL, because Petitti (though not good) got in a full season last year, but someone like Adams isn't really replaceable...just like Jansen and Samuels aren't replaceable on our line. However we do have Jim Molinaro, and we did sign Mike Pucillo and Tyson Walter for depth. I don't see either team having a legitimate starter ready to come in if theres an OL injury.

For RB we have Ladell Betts ( a solid player who spells Portis). We also have Rock Cartwright (who had a 100 yard game last year), and a couple of others battling to make the team in training camp.

On the DL we didn't lose anyone from last year, we signed Andre Carter...drafted a DT, have Reynaldo Wynn (a starter last year), and Demetric Evans as backups with Carter, Salave'a, Griffin, and Daniels as the starters.



Just, Ladell Betts doesn't seem as good as Marion Barber, that's JMO anyway. Ask most people here, and they'll say that MB3 is better than Betts.

Ok, I'll admit that you have a better DL depth than I thought.

According to your last paragraph, you have 8 players for 4 positions, or 2 players per position.

We have 8 players for 3 positions, around 2.667 players per position. Plus, if you look at our DL, we switch in ALOT, meaning we have backups who play close to the level of the starters, since we can afford to switch them and not have a huge fall in pass rush. IMO, DL is our most loaded area.
 

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DragonCowboy said:
DeAngelo Hall - 4.15 40-time
Kevin Jones - 4.2 40-time
Santana Moss - 4.31 40-time

Nice try, play again, "mossburner"

4.15 for DeAngelo hall? I didn't know it was possible to run that fast.
 

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RiggoForever said:
but someone like Adams isn't really replaceable...

Are you really that ignorant, stupid, or naive? Take a look around you...everyone is replaceable! Besides that was last year....! This year, it's all gonna be different and changed....:cool:

RedStink logic at it's best...

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5Stars said:
Are you really that ignorant, stupid, or naive? Take a look around you...everyone is replaceable! Besides that was last year....! This year, it's all gonna be different and changed....:cool:

RedStink logic at it's best...

:dissskin:


5Stars, RiggoForever probably meant that our OL would take a downward spiral if Adams was injured. That happened, didn't it? Adams is really important to our OL, if he gets injured, it won't be easy to replace him and still have a solid OL.

Don't make fun of him for his "redstink logic", he's one of the few Commanders fans that I respect.

The other trolls though, make fun of them all you want!
 

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5Stars said:
Are you really that ignorant, stupid, or naive? Take a look around you...everyone is replaceable! Besides that was last year....! This year, it's all gonna be different and changed....:cool:

RedStink logic at it's best...

:dissskin:


I meant that certain players are not replacable without a drop off in talent and without it making the team have to adjust.

Keep telling yourself that. :) The truth will come out on September 17 and November 5.
 

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RiggoForever said:
4.15 for DeAngelo hall? I didn't know it was possible to run that fast.

Really? Hey, watch and see how FAST you RedStinks run from this forum after the 2nd game this coming season...!

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It is my opinion the Giants will cause us the most difficulty. Remembering our second game against them last season their D manhandled us. If Eli gets his act together .....Watch out.

We can win the division if our OL can play up to expectations..and of course stay away from key injuries.
 

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5Stars said:
Really? Hey, watch and see how FAST you RedStinks run from this forum after the 2nd game this coming season...!

:dissskin:

Nah if you win, I'll take my lumps and give you credit. I've been a fan of this team through the highs and the lows.

Are you going to the game at Texas Stadium this year?
 

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Cbz40 said:
It is my opinion the Giants will cause us the most difficulty. Remembering our second game against them last season their D manhandled us. If Eli gets his act together .....Watch out.

We can win the division if our OL can play up to expectations..and of course stay away from key injuries.

The Giants will be tough, but I think their schedule (in particular their first 7 games) leaves them no reason for error. If they come out of the first 7 games 4-3 or better, watch out.


Sunday, 9/10
8:15 PM
NBC
COLTS


Sunday, 9/17
1:00 PM
FOX
at Eagles


Sunday, 9/24
4:15 PM
FOX
at Seahawks


Sunday, 10/1


BYE


Sunday, 10/8
1:00 PM
FOX
Commanders


Sunday, 10/15
1:00 PM
FOX
at Falcons


Monday, 10/23
8:30 PM
ESPN
at Cowboys


Sunday, 10/29
1:00 PM
FOX
BUCCANEERS
 

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RiggoForever said:
Nah if you win, I'll take my lumps and give you credit. I've been a fan of this team through the highs and the lows.

Are you going to the game at Texas Stadium this year?

Why should I do that? I got DirecTV and TIVO....! I bought it this year so I can witness in 's l o w m o t i o n'...when the RedStinks come down to Texas and play ball....just in case St. Gibby needs some tape to send into the NFL...if everyone else can sponge off Lil Danny...I want to try too!

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5Stars said:
Why should I do that? I got DirecTV and TIVO....! I bought it this year so I can witness in 's l o w m o t i o n'...when the RedStinks come down to Texas and play ball....just in case St. Gibby needs some tape to send into the NFL...if everyone else can sponge off Lil Danny...I want to try too!

:dissskin:

I see! lol Do you not live in Dallas territory then?
 

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RiggoForever said:
The Giants will be tough, but I think their schedule (in particular their first 7 games) leaves them no reason for error. If they come out of the first 7 games 4-3 or better, watch out.


Sunday, 9/10
8:15 PM
NBC
COLTS


Sunday, 9/17
1:00 PM
FOX
at Eagles


Sunday, 9/24
4:15 PM
FOX
at Seahawks


Sunday, 10/1


BYE


Sunday, 10/8
1:00 PM
FOX
Commanders


Sunday, 10/15
1:00 PM
FOX
at Falcons


Monday, 10/23
8:30 PM
ESPN
at Cowboys


Sunday, 10/29
1:00 PM
FOX
BUCCANEERS



Agree....we should know alot about the Giants after those first seven games.

They will have played evryone on the division and three playoff teams....brutal schedule. They deserve it after having an extra home game last season. :)
 
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