Who WIll Be The Better Coach This Year - Jay Gruden or Red?

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  1. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Its hard to know what kinda of coach Gruden will turn out to be this year. We know what we have in Red _.

    Who has the better year?
  2. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    To me, one of the biggest questions about the division this year is what kind of coach Gruden is. He may be fine as an Xs and Os guy, but how will he be as a head coach managing personalities, etc? I don't think we have any way of knowing. But frankly, I'd be more worried if they'd hired Zimmer.
  3. thunderpimp91

    thunderpimp91 Well-Known Member

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    Time will tell. As a Cowboy fan who lives close to Cincinnati I hear a lot of similarities in how the fans look at Gruden and Garrett. A lot of Bengal fans were relieved to see Gruden go. They gave Hue Jackson a lot of credit for the success, and criticized Gruden for poor play calls and underutilizing star players. He even admitted on a radio interview after a loss to Houston a couple years ago that A.J. Greene was a decoy in the game plan. Personally I don't think the Gruden offenses have been that great for the talent they've had, but to be fair he hasn't had much of a QB either.
  4. Bwareinrings94

    Bwareinrings94 Well-Known Member

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    Tough question. I suspect gruden will look better than Garrett because I think the skins will have a defined scheme and philosophy. It feels like to team will be aligned behind gruden whereas it feels like Garrett is one of two people running this team and a bit arbitrarily. I think they are about equal but the skins may have a little more success. Really good question.
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  5. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    Man if the Skins have a better record than we do in Gruden's first season on the job.............when Garrett is entering year 4 and is still looking to break 500.

    Wonder what the posters that keep saying it takes multiple seasons to put a program in place and its too early to judge Garrett are going to say?
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  6. Yakuza Rich

    Yakuza Rich Well-Known Member

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    While Patrick Crayton is Patrick Crayton, I find it odd and 'not good' that both he and Jesse Holly, both WR's, basically crapped all over him in that interview. It's one thing to have a coach that has a dubious record getting crapped on by personnel from a different side of the ball of their expertise. It's another when the players on his side of the ball crap on the coach.

  7. Aurican

    Aurican Active Member

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    If Gruden and Chip Kelly both outperform Garrett in their first years as head coaches Garrett will become the worst coach in Dallas history behind Campo
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  8. Fredd

    Fredd Well-Known Member

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    Garrett is still in training, defense this year...
  9. Wheeltax

    Wheeltax Well-Known Member

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    I still think Jay Gruden's dad is overrated.
  10. Idgit

    Idgit Riding the Red Rocket Staff Member

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    If something hypothetical happens, you wonder what people are hypothetically going to say? Me, too.
  11. Idgit

    Idgit Riding the Red Rocket Staff Member

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    I don't. There's obviously bad blood between Crayton and Garrett. It's not exactly a mystery.

    I have a harder time understanding why a guy like Holley is constantly dumping on the organization that gave him his chance, but I have a hard time buying the issue there was Jason Garret's fault.
  12. Yakuza Rich

    Yakuza Rich Well-Known Member

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    I think Crayton feels Garrett isn't a good coach and doesn't understand why he has been given so many chances. I'm sure there is some bad blood there. But with Holly it seems he is more unbiased in his insight and used his experience with other coaches, particularly Belichick, to show that the way that Garrett coaches isn't to his liking. Holly never blamed anybody but Garrett. Didn't blame Romo, the other coaches, etc. Didn't blame Jerry outside of not understanding why he's given Garrett so many chances. Tough to imagine that these are the only 2 offensive players that feel this way. I think you'll probably get some offensive players that are lukewarm towards Garrett, but others probably feel the same way Holly does.

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  13. OhSnap

    OhSnap Well-Known Member

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    If they said they liked what he did would you think more highly of Garrett than you did before they said anything?
  14. OhSnap

    OhSnap Well-Known Member

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    Gruden will have the better year no matter what. No one expects anything so if he wins 2 more games than Shanny he'll be predicted to dominate the NFCE next year vs the Phili power house. They will both be crowned as the young guns and the new face of the NFL. It's gonna be great.
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  15. boysfan69

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    do not care for Garrett much not sure why he is still a head coach in the NFL so JMO it will not take much for Gruden to seem better that does not mean he is
  16. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    Gruden for President in 2016!
  17. landroverking

    landroverking Well-Known Member

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    Red Ball. Skins and Sheagles fall apart.
  18. Joe Realist

    Joe Realist No Kool-Aid here!

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    Chip Kelly in a landslide..
  19. casmith07

    casmith07 Attorney-at-Zone

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    You're wrong. He's the greatest coach of all time. He would lead the Cowboys to multiple Super Bowls, more than Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer ever did.

    He would make people speak the name "Tom Landry" in hushed tones. The only better coach out there is Lord Bill Cowher.
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  20. cml750

    cml750 Well-Known Member

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    It would not surprise me at all if Gruden does better than Garrett. If he does, hopefully it will be the end of Garrett's tenure but you never know with Jerry. It could be a decade long training course.

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