Whos Ready 2 see some ballhawking plays being made?

[dbair1967]

I'll take an order of optimism, super-sized, followed by a reminder that half the coaching staff is changed and there's usually an adjustment period.

and I'll take the fact that everywhere Phillips goes, excellent QB pressure follows immediately

David

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'll take an order of optimism, super-sized, followed by a reminder that half the coaching staff is changed and there's usually an adjustment period.

I'm not saying the entire defense will be the 85 Bears. We'll give up more long plays as we blitz more and we might not be as good against the run.

But did you see how often Merriman got matched up on a back or TE one-on-one? Contrary to popular belief, Merriman didn't always bull through a guard-tackle double team. He benefited from smart, well-designed scheming designed to give him favorable matchups. Ware will get that now.

And IMO Ware is every bit as talented as Merriman. He might have a touch less intensity than Merriman, but he makes up for it with slightly better athleticism.

Nope, I think Ware is a legitimate stud. Most people already know that, but this is the year everyone really sees it.

Edit: Especially you Skins fans.

 

[firehawk350]

It's not really a stretch.

Wade's defenses have always seen instant improvement, especially in sack totals, and that's what the selection committee's love for DMVP.

Ware is already one of the league's very best LBs. Wade unleashing him as one of the very best pass-rushers will just get him that recognition from those who are too slow (read: you ) to see it already.

Ware doesnt need Wade to make him much better. He's already DMVP-quality. Wade will just get him noticed.

So, why, when you had Ellis and Ware healthy early last season (getting plenty of pressure), did Newman not get more INTs? If you ask me, your defense will be better, but not immediately. You still have problems covering across the middle (Bradie James anyone), and without a secondary pass rush threat (how is Ellis doing anyways?) it won't be hard to stop Ware.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I'm not saying the entire defense will be the 85 Bears. We'll give up more long plays as we blitz more and we might not be as good against the run.

But did you see how often Merriman got matched up on a back or TE one-on-one? Contrary to popular belief, Merriman didn't always bull through a guard-tackle double team. He benefited from smart, well-designed scheming designed to give him favorable matchups. Ware will get that now.

And IMO Ware is every bit as talented as Merriman. He might have a touch less intensity than Merriman, but he makes up for it with slightly better athleticism.

Nope, I think Ware is a legitimate stud. Most people already know that, but this is the year everyone really sees it.

Edit: Especially you Skins fans.

I remember Todd Light knocked Merriman flat on his back... effortlessly I might add...

 

[firehawk350]

I remember Todd Light knocked Merriman flat on his back... effortlessly I might add...

While, yes, Merriman rocked and got lots of pressure and favorable match-ups, I think it's safe to say that the chargers line is far better then yours as is their overall LBer corps. They drew a lot of attention themselves, attention that would have gone to Merriman and will go to Ware.
I think Ware is going to have a great season, but I don't think he'll have a DMVP season.

 

[superpunk]

So, why, when you had Ellis and Ware healthy early last season (getting plenty of pressure), did Newman not get more INTs? If you ask me, your defense will be better, but not immediately. You still have problems covering across the middle (Bradie James anyone), and without a secondary pass rush threat (how is Ellis doing anyways?) it won't be hard to stop Ware.

What does Newman have to do with your flip comment about Ware being mentioned in DMVP talk? CL said that it wouldnt be our corners who become studs.

Try logical progression of argument sometime - it works alot better than throwing random thoughts together the second they pop in your head.

Won't be hard to stop Ware....SCOFF! He was our only pass rushing threat after Ellis went down, in a system less aggressive than Wade's, and STILL noone could stop him. Yeah, skins fan...he's that freaking good.

 

[firehawk350]

What does Newman have to do with your flip comment about Ware being mentioned in DMVP talk? CL said that it wouldnt be our corners who become studs.

Try logical progression of argument sometime - it works alot better than throwing random thoughts together the second they pop in your head.

Won't be hard to stop Ware....SCOFF! He was our only pass rushing threat after Ellis went down, in a system less aggressive than Wade's, and STILL noone could stop him. Yeah, skins fan...he's that freaking good.

First off, I was addressing the poster who said Henry and Newman would be great this year. Unfortunely, this place is full of optimism and little realism, so it's hard to deal with everyone at once.
Ware had 11.5 sacks, 3 coming against the woeful Detriot Lion line, otherwise, he didn't post a single multi-sack game. That's not a beast, that's consistent. He gets consistent pressure, but without having the rest of the Chargers' talent in the front seven with him, he's not going to have 17 sacks.
And when I said it'll be easy to counter him, I didn't mean physically, I meant line-calls. Find where he is, and slide protection that way. There isn't enough other threats to effectively draw the attention away enough.

 

[superpunk]

First off, I was addressing the poster who said Henry and Newman would be great this year. Unfortunely, this place is full of optimism and little realism, so it's hard to deal with everyone at once.

Is this your first visit to the innernets?

Use the multi-quote function.

Ware had 11.5 sacks, 3 coming against the woeful Detriot Lion line, otherwise, he didn't post a single multi-sack game. That's not a beast, that's consistent. He gets consistent pressure, but without having the rest of the Chargers' talent in the front seven with him, he's not going to have 17 sacks.

Maybe not. Ware is a better LB than Merriman, and the front three for Dallas do not even approach San Diego. But I guarantee you Ware's sack total will be at least in the teens.

Don't give me this baloney "against the Lions" BS either. Merriman and his phenomenal front three got to beat up on the Raiders twice a year. :jerk:

And when I said it'll be easy to counter him, I didn't mean physically, I meant line-calls. Find where he is, and slide protection that way. There isn't enough other threats to effectively draw the attention away enough.

We'll see. San Diego blitzed about twice as much as we did last season. Just the fact that Wade is willing to send more, more consistently says that other teams won't be able to account for Ware as easily as you imagine.

 

[Doomsday101]

Bottom line is that a rushed QB throws balls he shouldnt throw ......

I agree. If you can put pressure in the face of the QB you will force mistakes. Funny thing is when some talked about Romo and said defense figured him out the rational was if you put pressure in his face he will make mistakes. News Flash that is the same weakness for every QB out there. :laugh1:

 

[Chocolate Lab]

LOL... Firehawk obviously doesn't comprehend Parcells' or Phillips' schemes.

Let's just say that we'll see if Ware is as big a non-factor as you think.

 

[firehawk350]

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Use the multi-quote function.



Maybe not. Ware is a better LB than Merriman, and the front three for Dallas do not even approach San Diego. But I guarantee you Ware's sack total will be at least in the teens.

Don't give me this baloney "against the Lions" BS either. Merriman and his phenomenal front three got to beat up on the Raiders twice a year. :jerk:



We'll see. San Diego blitzed about twice as much as we did last season. Just the fact that Wade is willing to send more, more consistently says that other teams won't be able to account for Ware as easily as you imagine.

I'm sorry I'm not a master of the innernet... Whatever that is...

Ware is a better LBer than Merriman? Wow, since you said it, it must be true! This is based on what? I think they're comparable, but I doubt you can say Ware is good enough that he's bottom line, the better player.
Anybody can have a bad day, against any team (you against the Lions, Skins against the 06 season) but Ware didn't have ANY multi-sack games except against the worst o-line you played against. I think that's the aberration.
No, I don't think it's going to be easy to stop Ware, but for just a moment, imagine your the other team. What would your game plan against the pass rush be? Slide protection over to wherever Ware is and take your chances with the rest of the pass rush one on one.

 

[Rampage]

ware will finish the regular season with 15 sacks and 2 picks

 

[smarta5150]

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Use the multi-quote function.



Maybe not. Ware is a better LB than Merriman, and the front three for Dallas do not even approach San Diego. But I guarantee you Ware's sack total will be at least in the teens.

Don't give me this baloney "against the Lions" BS either. Merriman and his phenomenal front three got to beat up on the Raiders twice a year. :jerk:



We'll see. San Diego blitzed about twice as much as we did last season. Just the fact that Wade is willing to send more, more consistently says that other teams won't be able to account for Ware as easily as you imagine.

And you didn't even mention the fact that Merriman was on STEROIDS.

There is a reason they are called PERFORMANCE enhancing.

Nothing he has done so far should be taken too serious, lets see what he does this year when off the juice.

 

[firehawk350]

LOL... Firehawk obviously doesn't comprehend Parcells' or Phillips' schemes.

Let's just say that we'll see if Ware is as big a non-factor as you think.

I don't think Ware will be a non-factor. There's a whole gaping hole between "not DMVP" and non-factor.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

So, why, when you had Ellis and Ware healthy early last season (getting plenty of pressure), did Newman not get more INTs?

This is, in my opinion, one of the biggest misnomers being perpetuated in every Cowboy forum. Quarterback pressure was not substantially better when both Ellis and Ware were healthy, and I would never append the word "plentiful" to any description of Dallas' pressure at any time over the past decade.

If you ask me, your defense will be better, but not immediately. You still have problems covering across the middle (Bradie James anyone), and without a secondary pass rush threat (how is Ellis doing anyways?) it won't be hard to stop Ware.

Pressure is always the key to successful coverage. Personally, I'm more interested in how Ware, Spears, and Canty may flourish under Phillips' scheme than I am Ellis' recovery. Ellis has always been a consistent pass rusher, not a great one.

 

[firehawk350]

ware will finish the regular season with 15 sacks and 2 picks

I put my bet on 13 sacks and 1 pick.

 

[Rampage]

I put my bet on 13 sacks and 1 pick.

sounds good to me

 

[firehawk350]

This is, in my opinion, one of the biggest misnomers being perpetuated in every Cowboy forum. Quarterback pressure was not substantially better when both Ellis and Ware were healthy, and I would never append the word "plentiful" to any description of Dallas' pressure at any time over the past decade.



Pressure is always the key to successful coverage. Personally, I'm more interested in how Ware, Spears, and Canty may flourish under Phillips' scheme than I am Ellis' recovery. Ellis has always been a consistent pass rusher, not a great one.

That short middle zone that James is SUPPOSED to be covering is the key between getting pressure and getting sacks. Because that's where the dump-offs occur. Until you can provide that coverage, it'll be harder to get sacks.

 

[superpunk]

I'm sorry I'm not a master of the innernet... Whatever that is...

It's what you're on now. First multi-quote, now I have to tell you what the innernets is?

Al Gore would be so ashamed.

Ware is a better LBer than Merriman? Wow, since you said it, it must be true! This is based on what? I think they're comparable, but I doubt you can say Ware is good enough that he's bottom line, the better player.

Being the better player is debatable. Merriman is a very fine apss-rusher. But, as a LB, he struggles. Ware has shown himself to be quite a force in coverage, as well as playing the run. Thus, he is the better LB. (Hint: LB = Linebacker)

He also doesn't take steroids. So he's got that going for him.

No, I don't think it's going to be easy to stop Ware, but for just a moment, imagine your the other team. What would your game plan against the pass rush be? Slide protection over to wherever Ware is and take your chances with the rest of the pass rush one on one.

This is incredibly simplistic, and displays a general lack of knowledge in the difference between Parcells' schemes and Wades. Sink this in your head - the Chargers blitzed TWICE as much as we did last year. No team in their right mind is going to be sliding to Ware consistently, because we will actually send our other LBs this year.

Even if they did isolate Ware, he dealt with that ALL last year and still managed double digit sacks.

He'll get 13+ sacks this year - and be in the running for DMVP. I guarantee you that.

 

[DallasEast]

First off, I was addressing the poster who said Henry and Newman would be great this year. Unfortunely, this place is full of optimism and little realism, so it's hard to deal with everyone at once.

Any type of consistent pressure from the seven guys upfront will make superstars out of Henry and Newman.

Yeah, and sometimes posters disregard the subject portion of the sentence and begin reading from the verb forward.