Why all the freakin' over WRs?

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Real1st;2224236 said:
Has he ever made sense? I don't know if its an act or his is serious but please zoners that have been here for a long time since 2004 when he signed up. Has this guy always been like this?
The sad part is, he truly thinks he is insightful and interesting because so many people respond. Point out that the responses are mockery and he will say, "yes, my ideas are often attacked by those who are jealous." Watch closely this year. Amendola's name will be constantly in his commentary. He will remind everyone he had Romo over Henson and he absolutely did not. He was a Bledsoe and Quincy guy all the way. All of this passes for clever in his feable imagination.
 

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I really don't understand all the freakin' out over our WR situation. At least we have all of our starters ready to go in week 1. I'm not saying that there isn't a chance we'll bring in another WR via league cuts or a trade, probably Ball or Oglesby, but so what if we don't.

Injuries happen all the time...these guys are dinged up, not out for the season. MIles Austin will be back; Hurd will be back; Stanback is not a starter, so playing WR if needed in a harness is not a huge deal...you put him out wide, someone has to cover him, and Crayton or TO run the slot...plus we have two nice targets at WR, two more at TE, and a new weapon in the receiving game in Felix JOnes. (BTW, STanback should not return kickoffs with a bad shoulder...Felix Jones should).

Why would we keep guys that we'd want to cut (JEfferson/Amendola) if everyone was healthy? Why would we let guys at CB or OL who have real potential get cut and move on for two bums that belong on the practice squad and have almost no chance of being signed to any team's 53 man roster? Too much panicing.

These things happen, and sometimes you are thin at a position for 2,3,4 games. Suppose Hurd and Austin were dinged up in the middle of the season? Would we be freakin' out to cut quality players to bring in WR's off the street or to make some huge trade for disgruntled guys off other teams who by the time they learn our offense and develop any chemistry with our QB would be competing with the guys who come back healthy from being dinged up?

Maybe we bring someone back; maybe Glenn is getting in shape in case we have a serious injury to TO or Crayton...maybe we'll make a trade for a WR. However, I don't see it happening at all, and I certainly don't see any move affecting our first couple of games. This is the NFL...injuries are part of the game. Thank goodness we have TO, Crayton, and Witten in perfect health right now.

I, for one, think we'll go into the Cleveland game with the guys we currently have at WR and that we'll weather the storm until Hurd or Austin come back healthy. This is actually a golden opportunity for Stanback to show us something if we even decide to line up with a 3rd WR in the game.

There's no reason to panic or think that we should have cut a better football player for the likes of Jefferson or Amendola. I expect we'll get very close to 100% of whomever we targeted for the practice squad. I don't see anyone we cut as a serious contributor to anyone's 53 man roster...that would not have been the case with an OLman or one of our DBs.

very well stated.
 

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I'm guessing now that we've resigned Keith Davis, we'll either trade a safety like Brown or Watkins, a CB like Ball or Oglesby, or an OL like Martin. Martin or Ball could be released if no trade arises.

We should hear something by the end of the day.
 

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What does this have to do with anything
It's only natural to root a little harder for those that you can relate to... or did you think Eminem's absurd amount of sales were based solely on his talent? ;)

If you're Chinese, there's nothing wrong with saying you rooted for Yao Ming to become the player he is today in the NBA because he's Chinese like you are. And the Chinese love Yao... just like the Argentinans love Ginobili, the Germans love Nowitzki, etc. You have something in common with the player, and so you feel they represent that which you have in common.

If you're a University of Wisconsin alum, chances are you rooted for guys like Ron Dayne, Chris Chambers, Lee Evans, or Jamar Fletcher after NFL teams drafted them. Again... you have something in common with the player, and so you feel they represent that which you have in common.

The very same principle generally applies to race/ethnicity in sports, no matter how PC you choose to be about it. There's nothing wrong with it, in my opinion... I had a couple of Asian friends in high school who would occasionally watch Cowboys games with me just so they could watch Dat Nguyen play.

Successful white WRs are a rare enough commodity in the NFL nowadays, and so I wouldn't put any fault at a white fan for rooting Danny on because of what they have in common. They're just doing what fans of sport all over the world do when they notice a player there is something significant shared between themselves and that player.

Oh, back to the topic... :D
Why all the freakin' over WRs?
Because 1) there's nothing else to freak over right now, and 2) amidst all the talk/hype about our backup WRs all offseason, few remember that our backup WRs only caught 24 balls total last year (for the NFL's 2nd best offense) and are generally not a big part of our offense.

The backups should all be healthy again in a month or so, T.O. and Crayton will do what they do, we'll get off to a quick start, and assuming one of the starting WRs doesn't get hurt during the next month... all of the whining will prove to be much ado about nothing.
 

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Nav22;2224751 said:
It's only natural to root a little harder for those that you can relate to... or did you think Eminem's absurd amount of sales were based solely on his talent? ;)

If you're Chinese, there's nothing wrong with saying you rooted for Yao Ming to become the player he is today in the NBA because he's Chinese like you are. And the Chinese love Yao... just like the Argentinans love Ginobili, the Germans love Nowitzki, etc. You have something in common with the player, and so you feel they represent that which you have in common.

If you're a University of Wisconsin alum, chances are you rooted for guys like Ron Dayne, Chris Chambers, Lee Evans, or Jamar Fletcher after NFL teams drafted them. Again... you have something in common with the player, and so you feel they represent that which you have in common.

The very same principle generally applies to race/ethnicity in sports, no matter how PC you choose to be about it. There's nothing wrong with it, in my opinion... I had a couple of Asian friends in high school who would occasionally watch Cowboys games with me just so they could watch Dat Nguyen play.

Successful white WRs are a rare enough commodity in the NFL nowadays, and so I wouldn't put any fault at a white fan for rooting Danny on because of what they have in common. They're just doing what fans of sport all over the world do when they notice a player there is something significant shared between themselves and that player.

Sorry, but I just see football player. I could careless what color he is. Green, black, red, or yellow, if he's wearing the :starspin I'm rooting for him. Hey, thats just me though...
 

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Nors;2224063 said:
Witten
Felix Cat
New TE
Pacman

3rd WR for a week or 2 :)

Nors;2224345 said:
yes - programmed in

thank god no Phillips or Amendilla
You really get the feeling this guy has his thumb on the pulse of the Dallas Cowboys.
 

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theogt;2224767 said:
You really get the feeling this guy has his thumb on the pulse of the Dallas Cowboys.

He's been scouting to many prospect.....and talking to many teams I mean.......:rolleyes:.....It's a shame he can't even name our 2nd round TE and is apparently making up players that were never on the team.
 

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Sorry, but I just see football player. I could careless what color he is. Green, black, red, or yellow, if he's wearing the :starspin I'm rooting for him. Hey, thats just me though...
The only colors any of us should see are the blue, silver, and white of the uniforms.
 

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The only colors any of us should see are the blue, silver, and white of the uniforms.

Thank you!!! Glad I'm not alone. Don't know what that cat was talking about..
 

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Nav22;2224751 said:
It's only natural to root a little harder for those that you can relate to... or did you think Eminem's absurd amount of sales were based solely on his talent? ;)

If you're Chinese, there's nothing wrong with saying you rooted for Yao Ming to become the player he is today in the NBA because he's Chinese like you are. And the Chinese love Yao... just like the Argentinans love Ginobili, the Germans love Nowitzki, etc. You have something in common with the player, and so you feel they represent that which you have in common.

If you're a University of Wisconsin alum, chances are you rooted for guys like Ron Dayne, Chris Chambers, Lee Evans, or Jamar Fletcher after NFL teams drafted them. Again... you have something in common with the player, and so you feel they represent that which you have in common.

The very same principle generally applies to race/ethnicity in sports, no matter how PC you choose to be about it. There's nothing wrong with it, in my opinion... I had a couple of Asian friends in high school who would occasionally watch Cowboys games with me just so they could watch Dat Nguyen play.

Successful white WRs are a rare enough commodity in the NFL nowadays, and so I wouldn't put any fault at a white fan for rooting Danny on because of what they have in common. They're just doing what fans of sport all over the world do when they notice a player there is something significant shared between themselves and that player.

Oh, back to the topic... :D Because 1) there's nothing else to freak over right now, and 2) amidst all the talk/hype about our backup WRs all offseason, few remember that our backup WRs only caught 24 balls total last year (for the NFL's 2nd best offense) and are generally not a big part of our offense.

The backups should all be healthy again in a month or so, T.O. and Crayton will do what they do, we'll get off to a quick start, and assuming one of the starting WRs doesn't get hurt during the next month... all of the whining will prove to be much ado about nothing.

I think so I think he's one of the best rappers ever and if he was black he would be considered as so.

Even though our backups weren't used as much I expect them to play a huge role in our success this year. I could easily see Hurd having 30-40 catches for 500 yards and 5 TD's.

I think they are about to peak now and it will reflect in their stats. Crayton's 2nd year was similar to Hurds.
 

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I think so I think he's one of the best rappers ever and if he was black he would be considered as so.

Even though our backups weren't used as much I expect them to play a huge role in our success this year. I could easily see Hurd having 30-40 catches for 500 yards and 5 TD's.

I think they are about to peak now and it will reflect in their stats.

I'm a big rap fan and luv all his stuff, he's extremely creative. I also believe he's known as one of the best rappers ever. Dude has sick skillz...
 

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The only colors any of us should see are the blue, silver, and white of the uniforms.
I noticed you used "should" and not "do"...

The coaching staff/front office will be color-blind even if all the fans aren't... so it's already assumed that the better man will win the job in a football competition.

With that assumption in your back pocket, it makes no difference who you favor, as a fan, to win a competition.

If you were a black Cowboys fan in 2003, statistically speaking, it's more likely that you were rooting for Quincy Carter to beat out Hutchinson than if you were a white fan. I'd bet any amount of money that this would be proven if a statistical analysis was done. Maybe 65% of black fans favored Q and 55% of white fans favored Q as well.

Now, does that mean these black fans who favored Carter because of what they have in common with him were hoping Carter would win the job EVEN IF Chad was the better man for it? Absolutely not.

Again, in their back pocket, they own the assumption that the team will pick the best man for the job. But the real Cowboys fans would root just as hard for the winner of the competition, even if that player beat out their own "pet".

That's just one example among thousands.
I think so I think he's one of the best rappers ever and if he was black he would be considered as so.
I didn't say he wasn't. He's a great lyricist, and being the huge hip-hop fan that I am, I respect his talent tremendously. I was talking album sales.

Guys like KRS-One, Rakim, Nas, Canibus, and GZA are all above Eminem's level as lyricists, yet their album sales will never touch what Eminem sold.

The Marshall Mathers LP sold more units than any other hip-hop record in history, if I recall correctly. And you're kidding yourself if you don't think his skin-tone helped him achieve that.
Don't know what that cat was talking about..
Haha... so do you believe it's a coincidence that the number of Chinese NBA fans grew astronomically after Houston drafted Yao?

I love when being PC takes priority over common sense.
 

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wayne motley;2224041 said:
I really don't understand all the freakin' out over our WR situation. At least we have all of our starters ready to go in week 1. I'm not saying that there isn't a chance we'll bring in another WR via league cuts or a trade, probably Ball or Oglesby, but so what if we don't.

Injuries happen all the time...these guys are dinged up, not out for the season. MIles Austin will be back; Hurd will be back; Stanback is not a starter, so playing WR if needed in a harness is not a huge deal...you put him out wide, someone has to cover him, and Crayton or TO run the slot...plus we have two nice targets at WR, two more at TE, and a new weapon in the receiving game in Felix JOnes. (BTW, STanback should not return kickoffs with a bad shoulder...Felix Jones should).

Why would we keep guys that we'd want to cut (JEfferson/Amendola) if everyone was healthy? Why would we let guys at CB or OL who have real potential get cut and move on for two bums that belong on the practice squad and have almost no chance of being signed to any team's 53 man roster? Too much panicing.

These things happen, and sometimes you are thin at a position for 2,3,4 games. Suppose Hurd and Austin were dinged up in the middle of the season? Would we be freakin' out to cut quality players to bring in WR's off the street or to make some huge trade for disgruntled guys off other teams who by the time they learn our offense and develop any chemistry with our QB would be competing with the guys who come back healthy from being dinged up?

Maybe we bring someone back; maybe Glenn is getting in shape in case we have a serious injury to TO or Crayton...maybe we'll make a trade for a WR. However, I don't see it happening at all, and I certainly don't see any move affecting our first couple of games. This is the NFL...injuries are part of the game. Thank goodness we have TO, Crayton, and Witten in perfect health right now.

I, for one, think we'll go into the Cleveland game with the guys we currently have at WR and that we'll weather the storm until Hurd or Austin come back healthy. This is actually a golden opportunity for Stanback to show us something if we even decide to line up with a 3rd WR in the game.

There's no reason to panic or think that we should have cut a better football player for the likes of Jefferson or Amendola. I expect we'll get very close to 100% of whomever we targeted for the practice squad. I don't see anyone we cut as a serious contributor to anyone's 53 man roster...that would not have been the case with an OLman or one of our DBs.
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The Marshall Mathers LP sold more units than any other hip-hop record in history, if I recall correctly. And you're kidding yourself if you don't think his skin-tone helped him achieve that.

Controversy, flow, beats, publicity ect.


Haha... so do you believe it's a coincidence that the number of Chinese NBA fans grew astronomically after Houston drafted Yao?

Country pride



Its dumb to bllindy root based on race. You would root for Jeremy Shockey over Antonio Gates?
 

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Hopefully, this will force Garrett to run the ball and control the clock more.
 

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MarionBarberThe4th;2224813 said:
Controversy, flow, beats, publicity ect.




Country pride



Its dumb to bllindy root based on race. You would root for Jeremy Shockey over Antonio Gates?
:bow:
 

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You would root for Jeremy Shockey over Antonio Gates?
1) I'm not white.

2) Re-read this line from my previous post...

Now, does that mean these black fans who favored Carter because of what they have in common with him were hoping Carter would win the job EVEN IF Chad was the better man for it? Absolutely not.
Controversy, flow, beats, publicity ect.
You're out of your mind if you think being a white rapper in a black hip-hop world didn't help him sell records. I don't think you're out of your mind, I think you're just being PC.

Again, I love when political correctness takes priority over common sense.
 

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You're out of your mind if you think being a white rapper in a black hip-hop world didn't help him sell records. I don't think you're out of your mind, I think you're just being PC.

Again, I love when political correctness takes priority over common sense.

It was part of the controversy that led to publicity that led to everyone wanting to know what he was about. The fact that he was good led to years of sucess. He has a new VD coming out later this year, no one is picking it up b/c hes white.


1) I'm not white.

Im sorry to hear that.

:)

I thought this thread needed some levity.






Now, does that mean these black fans who favored Carter because of what they have in common with him were hoping Carter would win the job EVEN IF Chad was the better man for it? Absolutely not

Actually, I liked Q better. I was hoping he wold win it. I dont know what it was about him, but I liked the guy.

And Im rooting or Lowber to make the PS. He is really an underdog compared to Amendola. Lowbers school didnt even have a football team.
 

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Nav22;2224796 said:
I noticed you used "should" and not "do"...

The coaching staff/front office will be color-blind even if all the fans aren't... so it's already assumed that the better man will win the job in a football competition.

With that assumption in your back pocket, it makes no difference who you favor, as a fan, to win a competition.

If you were a black Cowboys fan in 2003, statistically speaking, it's more likely that you were rooting for Quincy Carter to beat out Hutchinson than if you were a white fan. I'd bet any amount of money that this would be proven if a statistical analysis was done. Maybe 65% of black fans favored Q and 55% of white fans favored Q as well.

Now, does that mean these black fans who favored Carter because of what they have in common with him were hoping Carter would win the job EVEN IF Chad was the better man for it? Absolutely not.

Again, in their back pocket, they own the assumption that the team will pick the best man for the job. But the real Cowboys fans would root just as hard for the winner of the competition, even if that player beat out their own "pet".

That's just one example among thousands.I didn't say he wasn't. He's a great lyricist, and being the huge hip-hop fan that I am, I respect his talent tremendously. I was talking album sales.

Guys like KRS-One, Rakim, Nas, Canibus, and GZA are all above Eminem's level as lyricists, yet their album sales will never touch what Eminem sold.


The Marshall Mathers LP sold more units than any other hip-hop record in history, if I recall correctly. And you're kidding yourself if you don't think his skin-tone helped him achieve that.Haha... so do you believe it's a coincidence that the number of Chinese NBA fans grew astronomically after Houston drafted Yao?

I love when being PC takes priority over common sense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R32j461v9c

the dude is nasty

It's not about being PC but your trying to say he doesn't have the skill to sell the records that he has sold or he just sold that high because he was white. I think you're mistaken on that part.

Yes Yao Ming runs all way with the all star voting every year that doesn't make him the best Center in the NBA. Yao Ming is the face for his nation. I don't compare the older rappers to the newer rappers because there really isn't a comparison. It different styles and different flow. Nas and Canibus aren't that good. Canibus best album was 2000 BC and that wasn't even that hot and Nas was Illmatic canibus got ripped by LL cool J and Nas is hanging on Jayz coat tails right now....if they tried to battle him I'm almost certain that eminem would come out on top almost all the time. Canibus didn't he join the military......:eek:
 
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