Why all the hate for Fluker

[CATCH17]

Does he struggle a little vs a speed rush? Yes.

But this guy is a killer in the run game and he has about as high of a motor as your going to see for a 330lb man.


Do you guys just not think he is worthy of the 18th pick or do you just think he is a bust?


Please show me some videos where this guy isn't absolutely bullying his opponent too btw.

 

[Gaede]

I don't know.

I watch him and see him just destroy people. Literally take them out of the play.

And he seems fast enough to me.

 

[supercowboy8]

he will struggle vs speed rushers increasing the chance for injuries on romo.

dallas will be running a zone blocking scheme which needs a RT that can get to the second level and open lanes for the RB

Fluker will be a good player for a run first power man team like Minnesota, Seattle, and Cleveland

He would be terrible and a bust for Dallas and any team with zone blocking.

Just doesn't fit the scheme

 

[xwalker]

Does he struggle a little vs a speed rush? Yes.

But this guy is a killer in the run game and he has about as high of a motor as your going to see for a 330lb man.

Do you guys just not think he is worthy of the 18th pick or do you just think he is a bust?

Please show me some videos where this guy isn't absolutely bullying his opponent too btw.

Just because people don't see a prospect as a mid 1st round pick does not mean that they "hate" him.

Doug Free was really terrible, but he was not the reason for the Cowboys inability to run the ball.

If Fluker is not a better pass-blocker than Free, then you have not really improved the team very much.

 

[MonsterD]

Does he struggle a little vs a speed rush? Yes.

But this guy is a killer in the run game and he has about as high of a motor as your going to see for a 330lb man.


Do you guys just not think he is worthy of the 18th pick or do you just think he is a bust?


Please show me some videos where this guy isn't absolutely bullying his opponent too btw.

I actually don't think he will be a bust. Is he right for our team? No not at all.

 

[CATCH17]

he will struggle vs speed rushers increasing the chance for injuries on romo.

dallas will be running a zone blocking scheme which needs a RT that can get to the second level and open lanes for the RB

Fluker will be a good player for a run first power man team like Minnesota, Seattle, and Cleveland

He would be terrible and a bust for Dallas and any team with zone blocking.

Just doesn't fit the scheme

Why is everyone worried about the zone scheme?

Garrett has to actually commit to the zone first before I worry about a player not fitting that scheme.

Out of all the linemen I've seen he is the last guy I would want to play against.

 

[CATCH17]

Just because people don't see a prospect as a mid 1st round pick does not mean that they "hate" him.

Doug Free was really terrible, but he was not the reason for the Cowboys inability to run the ball.

If Fluker is not a better pass-blocker than Free, then you have not really improved the team very much.

The theory is Fluker will struggle vs the pass... Maybe a little or maybe not at all.

He is so dominant as a run blocker though that I think it's worth the "risk".




If teams want to put little speed rushers on him he will maul them.

 

[xwalker]

Why is everyone worried about the zone scheme?

Garrett has to actually commit to the zone first before I worry about a player not fitting that scheme.

Out of all the linemen I've seen he is the last guy I would want to play against.

Garrett hired an OLine coach and an assistant OLine coach that are both known for teaching/implementing the Zone Blocking Scheme.

Do you really think that they were hired to not implement it?

Also, don't expect all ZBS players to be small. Leary and Bernadeau both fit within the measureables of a ZBS OG.

 

[supercowboy8]

Why is everyone worried about the zone scheme?

Garrett has to actually commit to the zone first before I worry about a player not fitting that scheme.

Out of all the linemen I've seen he is the last guy I would want to play against.

If I was the Giants, Eagles, or Commanders I would love to play vs Fluker. I could just line up my best speed rusher wide and just go right around him no problem and hit Romo, just like Smith WKU, Moore Texas A&M, Jones Georgia did this past year.

Fluker might be a upgrade over Free but so are half the OTs in this draft. Add Fluker will not increase the runnign game with the interior OL this team has.

Also we are switching to the zone scheme, it takes more than one season to switch.

 

[supercowboy8]

Garrett hired an OLine coach and an assistant OLine coach that are both known for teaching/implementing the Zone Blocking Scheme.

Do you really think that they were hired to not implement it?

Also, don't expect all ZBS players to be small. Leary and Bernadeau both fit within the measureables of a ZBS OG.

Its not size, its quickness and strength that is needed for the zone blocking scheme.
I would love to have a 330 pound OT in the zone scheme if he has the strength and quickness to fit the scheme.

 

[CATCH17]

Garrett hired an OLine coach and an assistant OLine coach that are both known for teaching/implementing the Zone Blocking Scheme.

Do you really think that they were hired to not implement it?

Also, don't expect all ZBS players to be small. Leary and Bernadeau both fit within the measureables of a ZBS OG.

I think Garrett is going to run the same offense he has always ran.

We were supposed to be zone heavy last season and we weren't.


If we're going to keep using goal line formations in the mid field than it would be nice to have some players that actually fit that strength for a change.

 

[supercowboy8]

I think Garrett is going to run the same offense he has always ran.

We were supposed to be zone heavy last season and we weren't.


If we're going to keep using goal line formations in the mid field than it would be nice to have some players that actually fit that strength for a change.

you have to have the players to run the scheme, it takes time to get all the right pieces, just can't run the scheme without the players.

Takes more than one season.

Also don't ask the question if you do not want to accept the answers.

 

[CATCH17]

you have to have the players to run the scheme, it takes time to get all the right pieces, just can't run the scheme without the players.

Takes more than one season.

Also don't ask the question if you do not want to accept the answers.

Our line was about as finesse as it gets last year and we still didnt see much of it.

It's not a difficult system at all to learn either. It's less complicated than a power scheme.

 

[supercowboy8]

Our line was about as finesse as it gets last year and we still didnt see much of it.

It's not a difficult system at all to learn either. It's less complicated than a power scheme.

learning the scheme isn't the issue, its having the players that can execute that is the problem

Smith is the only player we have that can play in a zone scheme.

we need to find a LG C RG RT that can run the scheme and execute

Fluker might be able to pick up the scheme but doesn't have the quickness to be able to execute

 

[CATCH17]

learning the scheme isn't the issue, its having the players that can execute that is the problem

Smith is the only player we have that can play in a zone scheme.

we need to find a LG C RG RT that can run the scheme and execute

Fluker might be able to pick up the scheme but doesn't have the quickness to be able to execute

Nate Livings was the only guy that wasn't a prototypical fit for the zone.


Our Rb, both tackles, guard, center, and TE could all have easily done it


If Dallas is serious about playing the zone than yeah I'd probably stay away from Fluker but I don't think Garrett is going to change much.

 

[supercowboy8]

Nate Livings was the only guy that wasn't a prototypical fit for the zone.

Our Rb, both tackles, guard, center, and TE could all have easily done it

Free was but last year he didn't have the strength to get off his first block
Bern was not a fit, didn't have the quickness and neither did Cook to get to the second level.

I think you are having an issue understanding the zone blocking scheme and how its ran.

 

[TheCount]

I don't hate him, but speed will always be an issue for him. I liked Loadholt coming out, but then again, Loadholt didn't go 18th overall.

 

[CATCH17]

Free was but last year he didn't have the strength to get off his first block
Bern was not a fit, didn't have the quickness and neither did Cook to get to the second level.

I think you are having an issue understanding the zone blocking scheme and how its ran.

Not at all.. I'm well aware of how it is ran and have experience in it.

It's more about angles and swapping off on double teams and beating your assignment to a spot. If the defense overflows than the RB can cut it back or upfield.

In theory the defender can't make a right move.

 

[supercowboy8]

Also I do not hate Fluker I just don't think he is a great player for the Dallas Cowboys. He doesn't fit this team or any team that will pass 30 plus times a game.

If I was a fan of Seattle, Cleveland, Minnesota or any other run first power team I would be all for him.

 

[supercowboy8]

Not at all.. I'm well aware of how it is ran and have experience in it.

then why are you having trouble understanding i and why are you so hot for Fluker

sure any player can play in the scheme but it takes the rught players to execute the scheme