Why all the love for the Skins?

[AtlCB]

Their defense looks really, really good. Their defense has shut down the first two teams they've faced, but both of these teams are seriously offensively challenged. Dallas' defensive effort against Miami was comparable to Washington's, but everyone is concerned about how bad our defense is and how good Washington's defense is. If our first game was against Philly instead of the Giants, we might be talking about how we have one of the best defenses in the league.

Campbell may develop into a very good qb (I've read where some cowboyszone posters say they saw things from him that show he has a good chance to be very good), but he is horrible now. The Redstinks have huge holes on the right side of their line. The will face a tough test this weekend against Strahan. They have three good offensive linement, two very good running backs, one very good TE, and one excellent WR. They currently have holes at quarterback (until Campbell develops), G, T, and at WR.

I think they get clobbered against the Gnats this weekend.

 

[dargonking999]

the Skins have a sound defense

they have a good RB tandem.

They can get by with the injuries on the OL, at least for right now.

As long as you can run the ball, and play defense, you're going to be good. You're going to be in alot of games.

the Skins are great, but they are a threat, and if they keep winning, they can get momentum which can take them a long way.

 

[Doomsday]

I dont get it the Skins will be lucky to win 8 games this year.

 

[sago1]

Have you forgotten how bad the Giants defense is? And Strahan hasn't shown anything yet except that he needed the money so he came back for 1 more season.

On the other hand Eli is a much better QB now then McNabb and he's still got some good weapons around him. Even tho the Skins have a good defense, he should thread them and come away with the win. At least that is what I'm hoping for. I'd sure to read the Skins explanation of why they couldn't beat the Giants while we piled 45 points on them -- even if we gave up 35.

I've already read the Skins explanation re how they better then us despite our scoring 37 points against the Dolpins defense while they only able score 16 points in overtime.

 

[AtlCB]

the Skins have a sound defense

they have a good RB tandem.

They can get by with the injuries on the OL, at least for right now.

As long as you can run the ball, and play defense, you're going to be good. You're going to be in alot of games.

the Skins are great, but they are a threat, and if they keep winning, they can get momentum which can take them a long way.

How do you know how sound the defense is? A lot of defenses would look really good playing the Dolphins and Eagles. Look how much better the Cowboys were on defense against the Dolphins.

 

[vaturkey]

Going into Philly and beating them soundly is pretty impressive. Division games are never a gimme, especially on the road.

This upcoming game will be pretty big for both sides. If New York can pull the upset, they're back in it. If Washington can beat the Giants, they'll be sitting pretty with an 2-0 division record, and a comfortable lead in the NFC.

 

[dargonking999]

How do you know how sound the defense is? A lot of defenses would look really good playing the Dolphins and Eagles. Look how much better the Cowboys were on defense against the Dolphins.

And? No one has tourched them yet, no one has taken it to them offensivly

Can you seriously say it's becaue the teams offense? No

Until proven otherwise, the Skins have a sound defense.

 

[mitchell2254]

They are good. If you pound the ball with the running game and play defense you are going to win games. They just need Campbell to not beat them. I say they get around 9 or 10 wins and fiinish second behind us in the East. They don't really worry me as far as we are concerned. Our O-Line should dominat there D-Line. Smoot and Rogers are suspect. Campbell still isn't consistent with the deep ball which is our biggest threat right now.

 

[AmishGangsta]

Going into Philly and beating them soundly is pretty impressive. Division games are never a gimme, especially on the road.

This upcoming game will be pretty big for both sides. If New York can pull the upset, they're back in it. If Washington can beat the Giants, they'll be sitting pretty with an 2-0 division record, and a comfortable lead in the NFC.

I agree. We've had New York in this position before, and they kicked our ***! But to our defense, those games were at Giants stadium and not at fedex.

I expect it to be a very close game; I don't think they have the weapons to blow us out at home (as another poster suggested) especially now that it appears Burress might not be playing.

 

[superpunk]

Anytime you can run the ball and play good defense you're going to have success.

They've been VERY close to having two competitive games be two demolitions. They really outplayed Philly and Miami - Campbell's just not much good, and their DBs aren't holding on to INTs.

 

[AtlCB]

I agree. We've had New York in this position before, and they kicked our ***! But to our defense, those games were at Giants stadium and not at fedex.

I expect it to be a very close game; I don't think they have the weapons to blow us out at home (as another poster suggested) especially now that it appears Burress might not be playing.

Yikes! If Burress is out, I'm changing my prediction to a Deadskins win.

 

[AtlCB]

And? No one has tourched them yet, no one has taken it to them offensivly

Can you seriously say it's becaue the teams offense? No

Until proven otherwise, the Skins have a sound defense.

For me, they need to prove they are a sound defense by beating a team that can actually play a little offense. Philly and Miami looked really bad offensively in their other games as well.

 

[dargonking999]

For me, they need to prove they are a sound defense by beating a team that can actually play a little offense. Philly and Miami looked really bad offensively in their other games as well.

Maybe it's because the Defense's are good too?

 

[AmishGangsta]

Yikes! If Burress is out, I'm changing my prediction to a Deadskins win.

He's questionable for sundays game.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txgiantsburress&prov=st&type=lgns

"(Burress) was limited. He did some things," Coughlin said. "He didn't complete the full practice, but he did a few things and we will see. It is going to be one of those deals depending on how he feels on game day."

Even if he plays, he's definitely going to be hampered a bit by the injury. Their receivers are definitely going to get hit this week; we'll see how Plexiglass holds up

 

[Rampage]

Going into Philly and beating them soundly is pretty impressive. Division games are never a gimme, especially on the road.

This upcoming game will be pretty big for both sides. If New York can pull the upset, they're back in it. If Washington can beat the Giants, they'll be sitting pretty with an 2-0 division record, and a comfortable lead in the NFC.

well it also helped mcnabb isn't a 100% and was missing wide open recievers left and right

 

[Boyzmamacita]

the Skins have a sound defense

they have a good RB tandem.

They can get by with the injuries on the OL, at least for right now.

As long as you can run the ball, and play defense, you're going to be good. You're going to be in alot of games.

the Skins are great, but they are a threat, and if they keep winning, they can get momentum which can take them a long way.

the Cowboys have an excellent offense

they have a good RB tandem.

They can get by with the injuries on defense, at least for right now.

As long as you can run the ball, and score points, you're going to be good. You're going to be in alot of games.

the Cowboyss are not great yet, but they are a threat, and if they keep winning, they can get momentum which can take them a long way.

 

[silverbear]

Anytime you can run the ball and play good defense you're going to have success.

They've been VERY close to having two competitive games be two demolitions. They really outplayed Philly and Miami

Talk about revisionist history...

Against the Fins, the Skins had 288 yards on 54 plays at the time of the final play of regulation, that fluke 54 yard Hail Mary that Randle El caught off of a deflection... Miami had 273 yards, and had actually run six more plays...

Maybe you call that "outplaying" the Fins, I call it "outlasting" them... which is, IMO, EXACTLY what happened-- Miami just wore out in the overtime, suggesting their physical conditioning in the preseason was not adequate...

And against the Iggles, the Skins gained 337 yards on 63 plays, Philly gained 340 yards on 69... again, a VERY even game statistically, the difference being that the Skins managed to record 2 TDs and 2 FGs, while the Iggles could only put up 4 FGs...

I swear to Gawd, I wouldn't want some of you guys on my football team, you panic at NOTHING... the Skins have beaten two really bad teams so far, teams that have yet to win a ball game, and they have struggled to secure both wins... and from this, we're getting predictions of PLAYOFFS??

Guess you didn't notice that Jason Fabini is now their starting right guard... that's right, THAT Jason Fabini, the one who blew such large chunks for the Cowboys... and their starting right tackle is also done for the season, replaced by the immortal Todd Wade... and Jason Campbell has been more of a liability than an asset thus far this year, as evidenced by his 66.3 quarterback rating...

If you guys are scared of the Skins now, I can't imagine the pure terror you'll be feeling when they get past the next couple-three games, which are also against also-rans... tomorrow, it will be the also winless New York Giants, then they get their bye, then it's a surprising but still not good Detroit Lions team... they could well be 4-0 by the time they go up to Green Bay to play the Pack on October 14th...

And they still won't finish above .500... it could get really ugly if they continue to rack up injuries the way they have early in the season...

 

[superpunk]

Silverbear, you can take your inane, game-stat ramblings and file them appropriately, in the garbage. Some of us actually watch the games.

The Skins have been dropping passes on both sides of the ball. Smoot had a sure INT that could have ended the game against the Dolphins before overtime, and Rogers had a few against Philly. Their WRs dropped a boatload of catchable passes in both games. The plays are there to be made, they just haven't closed them - and the reason lies in the part of my post that you clipped out. Campbell and their DB/WR's hands have let them down - but those games weren't far off from being dominant performances from the Commanders.

 

[skinsscalper]

I'm not overly impressed by the Skins so far and I'm not under-impressed either. They have done what they had to do to win two ball games. The defense looks MUCH better than the version that they sent out year (not a hard feat to accomplish) and the running attack is very solid.

The Skins will be in the mix of things at the end of the year, no doubt about it. But they are a little like our Cowboys. They haven't really beaten anyone. We will know more when they face a real offense or defense (same as us, and no Miami's D is nowhere near what they were even a year ago). The one thing that the Skins have in their favor is a cupcake schedule for the foreseeable immediate future. That gives them plenty of time to build up some confidence.

Campbell is the ultimate "bus driver". Portis, Betts and the defense will keep them in games. Campbell just has make sure he can complete a 3rd down pass once in a while and the Skins will remain competitive. In a shootout the Skins are going to be toast, though. That's the one thing I like about the Cowboys team this year. We have the offense to win games like that with Romo at the healm. Campbell can't hang with that type of game. He simply doesn't possess the accuracy on the short and mid-length routes. He can bomb the ball pretty nicely, but his intermediate game is awful. Teams are going to start exploiting that and covering up those long balls and make Campbell march it down the field. The odds are that the kid is going to make an ill-advised throw in the process and cost his team.

One thing to keep an eye on, also, is the banged up o-line. If Campbell starts to get rattled, chances are, he's going to fold like a cheap suit. With the injury the kid endured in pre-season and the heat turning up due to a second string o-line things could get ugly for the kid if he starts to get a little gunshy. I don't think he'll face that test for a few weeks though and it's plenty of time for him to gain a little confidence.

It will be interesting to watch from afar.

SS

 

[silverbear]

Silverbear, you can take your inane, game-stat ramblings and file them appropriately, in the garbage. Some of us actually watch the games.

Seen all of both games, and stand by what I've said... the stats reflect REALITY... as always, those that don't have a compelling rebuttal for statistical fact just dismiss the stats as "garbage"...

Example-- you guys go on and on about the Skins' solid running game, and it's built on smoke and mirrors... 68 yards and 10 carries have come on Jason Campbell scrambles, IOW on plays designed to be PASSES... factor those scrambles out of the equation, and the running game has accounted for 253 yards in the two games, on 64 carries... that's under a 4.0 yards per carry average... Ledell Betts, who put up over 1000 yards in little more than half a season last year, is averaging a robust 3.2 yards per carry...

Still think their running game is all that?? I knew that their running stats were inflated by Campbell's scrambling even before I went and looked up the numbers, and if you REALLY watched the games, you OUGHT to remember that...

The Skins have been dropping passes on both sides of the ball.

And of course, the Fins and Iggles haven't dropped ANY passes... that's a really weak argument, and if you really have seen both games, I suspect you know it...

Smoot had a sure INT that could have ended the game against the Dolphins before overtime, and Rogers had a few against Philly.

Which may be why they're DBs, not WRs... this is a continuation of a problem we saw all last year, when they set an NFL record for fewest turnovers recorded by a defense in a 16 game season, so it's pretty clear that their DBs don't have good hands...

Their WRs dropped a boatload of catchable passes in both games.

Because they're not very GOOD... and as I said, they weren't the only team on the field having receivers drop catchable balls... Chris Chambers in particular just STUNK against the Skins... but I guess the Skins' opponents' drops don't count, eh??

Have you given any thought to the possibility that those drops by the Skins' receivers are Campbell's fault in part, that he doesn't throw a particularly "catchable" ball?? You know, the same problem ol' Chad Hutchinson had (well, one of the problems he had)...

The plays are there to be made, they just haven't closed them -

Which is what teams that aren't particularly good do...

Campbell and their DB/WR's hands have let them down - but those games weren't far off from being dominant performances from the Commanders.

And yet, they weren't... what is, is, what could have been, never was...

Like I said, you go right ahead and be afraid of the Skins, and I'll just be thankful we don't have to worry about you sacking up to help the Boys win the NFC East...