Why are we not seeing the problem

817Gill

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Have you watched the games? Our run game has been the key, when we run we win, when we pass we lose. Has nothing to do with Dak. What's his average yards per game since coming back probably like low 200s not like he is coming in here and throwing for 300 + 3-4 TDs and 0+1 INTs every week. His TDs to INTs is 14-9 this year, that is horrendous and he is ranked 19th in QBR the most well rounded assessment for QB play, he is AVERAGE at BEST.
So we couldn’t run when we had Cooper Rush? Why are we suddenly 1st in scoring but 24th with Rush?
 

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What problem are you referring to? They Cowboys rank third in scoring. They put up 27 against the Texans. The game was close because the Cowboys turned the ball over three times inside the 28, including once inside the five.
 

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Its the QB man. Cooper had 860 yards receiving last year.

This year, he has more yards already and thats with Brissett playing 11 games and Watson rusty
Why did he have the best two years of his career statically here then?

Coop is what he is no matter who’s the QB. He’s not and cold. He’s not a 1300-1400 yard guy. He’s 80-90 catches for 1100ish yards. Dude is not an alpha WR. Darren Bates who does a podcast and played for the Raiders said Crabtree was that guy and Coop was the 2.
 

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So we couldn’t run when we had Cooper Rush? Why are we suddenly 1st in scoring but 24th with Rush?
Dak has something to do with the improvement because yes he is better than Rush but I don't think that's much of an accomplishment given we're talking about Cooper Rush. They can open up more of the playbook with Dak which puts the defense on their heels because they can't just anticipate the run and load the box every play. Doesn't mean that Dak is good at executing but explains why the running game is better with Dak.
 

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Why did he have one of his worst years statically here then?
Coop is what he is no matter who’s the QB. He’s hot and cold. He’s not a 1300-1400 yard guy. He’s 80-90 catches for 1100ish yards. Dude is not an alpha WR. Darren Bates who does a podcast and played for the Raiders said Crabtree was that guy and Coop was the 2 even though he’s infinitely more talented.

He missed multiple games and our OC’s scheme literally is “attack what the defense gives you”. Once empowered with Garrett gone Moore did his thing. Without making sure your #1 guy is fed week in and week out you’re never gonna see a Moore WR have 1400 yards.

The fact that Lamb is on his way to 1300 is a testament to him and the lack of other reliable targets.

Even with that down year, how do we ignore him having his two best years here and act like it’s on the QB? What changed from 2019 to 2021? Not Dak not Coop. The only change was Moore taking complete control of the offense.

https://www.theringer.com/platform/...boys-offense-scheme-kellen-moore-dak-prescott

Bro literally runs an “anti-scheme” lol this article will let you know all you need to know.
 

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Coop is what he is no matter who’s the QB. He’s hot and cold. He’s not a 1300-1400 yard guy. He’s 80-90 catches for 1100ish yards. Dude is not an alpha WR. Darren Bates who does a podcast and played for the Raiders said Crabtree was that guy and Coop was the 2 even though he’s infinitely more talented.

He missed multiple games and our OC’s scheme literally is “attack what the defense gives you”. Once empowered with Garrett gone Moore did his thing. Without making sure your #1 guy is fed week in and week out you’re never gonna see a Moore WR have 1400 yards.

The fact that Lamb is on his way to 1300 is a testament to him and the lack of other reliable targets.
This doesnt explain why hes having a better year this year with Brissett in 11 games than he had with dak.

His last 100 yd game in Dallas was when Cooper Rush played :facepalm:
 

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More WR options for Dak to overthrow and stare down at when he tries to read the field is not a good thing. What we have is fine, and should limit him having to throw 50x a game. You do know this team succeeds when we run the ball, not put the ball in our QB's hands
 

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This doesnt explain why hes having a better year this year with Brissett in 11 games than he had with dak.

His last 100 yd game in Dallas was when Cooper Rush played :facepalm:
https://www.theringer.com/platform/...boys-offense-scheme-kellen-moore-dak-prescott

This is literally the explanation bro, peep the article. Moore runs an “anti-scheme”. Coops numbers declining go hand in hand with Moore taking full control. Amari himself complained about his lack of being featured, that’s literally Moore’s scheme.

He’s the only WR in Cleveland, obviously he’s gonna get a bunch of targets. 2021 we also had a 3 headed monster at WR.

The whole team sucked the second half of 2021, the line the run game all of it. To take only one half of one season and use that as more evidence than 2 FULL seasons makes no sense. How can you ignore 32 games for 8? Mathematically you’re taking the smaller sample size that fits your narrative.

I’m not some huge Dak fan. But logically Coop had his two best years with Dak, so it doesn’t make any sense to say he was held back by the QB who threw him passes for his two best years.

Again, what changed from 2019 to 2021? Moore’s imprint, so how do you not logically see that as the main issue?

This man runs reverses midway through drives when we march down the field even though it never works lol. He’s a cutesy play caller. He’s not the worse, but he is documented as being a guy who doesn’t target one dude. He likes to play tit for tat with the defense for better or for worse.
 

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https://www.theringer.com/platform/...boys-offense-scheme-kellen-moore-dak-prescott

This is literally the explanation bro, peep the article. Moore runs an “anti-scheme”. Coops numbers declining go hand in hand with Moore taking full control. Amari himself complained about his lack of being featured, that’s literally Moore’s scheme.

He’s the only WR in Cleveland, obviously he’s gonna get a bunch of targets. 2021 we also had a 3 headed monster at WR.

The whole team sucked the second half of 2021, the line the run game all of it. To take only one half of one season and use that as more evidence than 2 FULL seasons makes no sense. How can you ignore 32 games for 8? Mathematically you’re taking the smaller sample size that fits your narrative.

I’m not some huge Dak fan. But logically Coop had his two best years with Dak, so it doesn’t make any sense to say he was held back by the QB who threw him passes for his two best years.

Again, what changed from 2019 to 2021? Moore’s imprint, so how do you not logically see that as the main issue?
Its always somebody else’s fault.

Moore
The OL
McCarthy
Jerry


It was Linehan that was a bum, even tho Dak’s predecessor was having an MVP type year with him.

Now its Kellen’s scheme even though the QB wants him here.
 

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Our WR room is mediocre at best. When compared to the NFC playoff contenders we are close to the bottom.

Been saying this for weeks. If the run game stalls, our biggest weaknesses on the roster are pass pro and WRs.
 

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Our WR room is mediocre at best. When compared to the NFC playoff contenders we are close to the bottom.

Been saying this for weeks. If the run game stalls, our biggest weaknesses on the roster are pass pro and WRs.
Our WR room is better than:

Commanders
Giants
Ravens
49ers
Jets
Titans
Chiefs


All of these are playoff teams. With a better QB, we wouldnt even be talking about this
 
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