Why cant Romo take a Pay Cut?

skinsscalper

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Why are you so protective of Romo's salary? (serious question, I'm not trying to attack you for your opinion)

Honestly, yy, it's because I've been a fan of this team since 1981 and I have never seen a player give up his body for this team like Tony Romo. Not Emmitt. Not Michael. Not Troy. Not woodson. Not any player I have ever seen since I've been watching. Romo never held a gun to Jones' head for that contract. In fact, if I had to guess, Romo was very appreciative of the offer and he certainly didn't act like a ****** bag in the media during his negotiations. He's been a class act and has fought through and carried this team despite the ineptitude of this club from the front office, to the coaching, to his surrounding talent level since he's been named starter. The idea of him taking a pay cut is preposterous to me, honestly.
 

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Honestly, yy, it's because I've been a fan of this team since 1981 and I have never seen a player give up his body for this team like Tony Romo. Not Emmitt. Not Michael. Not Troy. Not woodson. Not any player I have ever seen since I've been watching. Romo never held a gun to Jones' head for that contract. In fact, if I had to guess, Romo was very appreciative of the offer and he certainly didn't act like a ****** bag in the media during his negotiations. He's been a class act and has fought through and carried this team despite the ineptitude of this club from the front office, to the coaching, to his surrounding talent level since he's been named starter. The idea of him taking a pay cut is preposterous to me, honestly.

What you left off your list if I may.
The national media hounding (not in a good way, mostly)
Numerous Dallas fans riding him like he's a third stringer.
The blame for just about every loss his entire career.
WRs who he has to teach routes to in the middle of games.

We could do this all day.
 

yimyammer

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Honestly, yy, it's because I've been a fan of this team since 1981 and I have never seen a player give up his body for this team like Tony Romo. Not Emmitt. Not Michael. Not Troy. Not woodson. Not any player I have ever seen since I've been watching. Romo never held a gun to Jones' head for that contract. In fact, if I had to guess, Romo was very appreciative of the offer and he certainly didn't act like a ****** bag in the media during his negotiations. He's been a class act and has fought through and carried this team despite the ineptitude of this club from the front office, to the coaching, to his surrounding talent level since he's been named starter. The idea of him taking a pay cut is preposterous to me, honestly.

Fair enuff and I agree with much of what you said.

Can you see the logic in what I'm suggesting? He actually has a chance of prolonging his career and increasing his long term earnings in my scenario, its not merely a pay cut for the hell of it.

This is not like asking the guy chucking burgers at Micky-D's to take a dollar an hour pay cut so the stockholders can get a better price per share so they can buy a new vacation home.

In this case, Romo is both the employee and the stock holder who is investing in himself, make sense?

Plus, when you've made 100+ million dollars, I'm quite certain other things become more important than just money (Maslow's Hierarchy of needs). I bet if we were to ask Romo how much he would pay to win a Super Bowl, he would come back with a number, whether that would be significant enough to improve the team, I can't say.
 

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Fair enuff and I agree with much of what you said.

Can you see the logic in what I'm suggesting? He actually has a chance of prolonging his career and increasing his long term earnings in my scenario, its not merely a pay cut for the hell of it.

This is not like asking the guy chucking burgers at Micky-D's to take a dollar an hour pay cut so the stockholders can get a better price per share so they can buy a new vacation home.

In this case, Romo is both the employee and the stock holder who is investing in himself, make sense?

Plus, when you've made 100+ million dollars, I'm quite certain other things become more important than just money (Maslow's Hierarchy of needs). I bet if we were to ask Romo how much he would pay to win a Super Bowl, he would come back with a number, whether that would be significant enough to improve the team, I can't say.


I do understand your logic in the corporate world. I don't think it translates in a world where the next 6 seconds could be the last time that you walk (literally).

FWIW, I don't think Romo's motivation has anything to do with money. I think if you could guarantee Romo a Super Bowl, he would play for free next year. That's not a world of reality, though, unfortunately.
 

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Do you know how hard he had to work to pad his stats enough to get that contract? Do you know how many times he had to audible out of a run play and into a pass play to get there? And now you just want him to walk away?
 

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I do understand your logic in the corporate world. I don't think it translates in a world where the next 6 seconds could be the last time that you walk (literally).

FWIW, I don't think Romo's motivation has anything to do with money. I think if you could guarantee Romo a Super Bowl, he would play for free next year. That's not a world of reality, though, unfortunately.

Thats why I think he would be open to a discussion, it doesn't hurt to have the conversation in my opinion.

And to protect him from the career ending injury, write in an injury bonus that pays him everything he gave up if he incurs a career ending injury.

Problem solved!

The cap hit won't matter at that point because they aren't going anywhere without Romo anyway

Its a lot easier to convince guys like Dez to take a team friendly deal when the most important player does. That's another ancillary benefit.
 

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Thats why I think he would be open to a discussion, it doesn't hurt to have the conversation in my opinion.

And to protect him from the career ending injury, write in an injury bonus that pays him everything he gave up if he incurs a career ending injury.

Problem solved!

The cap hit won't matter at that point because they aren't going anywhere without Romo anyway

Its a lot easier to convince guys like Dez to take a team friendly deal when the most important player does. That's another ancillary benefit.

HE ALREADY HAS

Top QBs are getting 20m a season. Romo took 16m.

People are actually arguing that Dez should get top dollar for a WR which is 16m a year. WOW.
 

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Better yet, buy Romo an insurance policy that will pay him the amount of what he sacrificed if he has a career injury or include the amount the policy would cost as part of his contract and let him buy it in case thats not allowed by the league.

This would lesson the cap hit if he was injured.
 

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HE ALREADY HAS

Top QBs are getting 20m a season. Romo took 16m.

People are actually arguing that Dez should get top dollar for a WR which is 16m a year. WOW.

READ MY POSTS!!

Think outside the box amigo and quit regurgitating the simple minded responses
 

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yeah i get that totally..but it's a little different when you make around 60k a year like me or we are talking about 10's of millions. A cup of joe costs Tony a buck 25 just like it does me.

In your line of work, do you regularly break bones, tear ligaments, puncture lungs, rip muscles directly off the bone, and have coworkers help you to your car at the end of the day because you physically cant walk to the parking lot on your own?

Just curious.
 

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Why cant he take a cut some what like Tom Brady Did? Maybe the Big Contract he has, is to maximize romos money for a few Years then Restructure and Let another player Maximize and then continue the process all the while everyone is making money and players wanna stay? am i making an ounce of sense? sorry is this has been discussed b4. Its just all the talks about dez n murray having to leave sucks if there were a way to keep them, should romo not wanna have them stick around? not that its his decision but he could have some input...

I don't see Carson Palmer calling his agent to give back his new contract. Why would Romo or any of the players? This is a living for them. Owners and NFL will keep raking in money hand over fist on the blood and sweat of these players. I support the player for getting their share. They make the league.
 

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Romo doesn't owe the team anything. And even if he played for free it wouldn't guarantee a super bowl. They had him dirt cheap (relatively speaking) for a looong time and only got one playoff victory. Anything short of a super bowl victory wouldn't really spike his endorsement deals imo, and trying to build a champion through free agency often doesn't work.

Maybe we could make him a player-coach just like Pete Rose back in the day. Pay him a few mill to be the qb....and 14 mill to be the qb coach lol.
 

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READ MY POSTS!!

Think outside the box amigo and quit regurgitating the simple minded responses

I have read your posts, that's why I responded. You are flat out incorrect about Romo and his contract.

He will restructure next year and save the team 10-12m against the cap. They could be up to 40m under the cap depending on how they handle Free and Carr.

Romo took less, TSmith took less, Lee took a team friendly deal.

Dez and Murray are under NO obligation to take less, but if they want to stay in Dallas and win here, then they need to take a little less. If the top 5 guys all take 2-3m less then the team can really add some depth to go with the young guys still on their rookie deals.

In the real world I would never propose anyone taking less, but the salary cap changes everything. There is only so much to go around and when you have to pay a franchise QB and a stud LT it makes things tight everywhere else. McClain, Spencer, Melton, Carter, Durant, Harris, Leary, Moore, Parnell, Selvie and Beasely all need to be signed, not just Dez and Murray.
 

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I have read your posts, that's why I responded. You are flat out incorrect about Romo and his contract.

I didn't make any absolute declarations about his contract.

While you may have read my posts, your emotional attachment to Romo and/or his money is clouding your ability to comprehend what I wrote. I asked several questions about his contract and proposed a scenario to illustrate a potential way to restructure his current contract in order to determine whether that would even be possible in the way I described but no one replied to tell me whether it was even possible. Perhaps you know?

I also proposed some scenarios to help him mitigate his risk if he had a career ending injury. They may not be allowed by the league but the logic is not incorrect.

I described several reasons why it might be beneficial to restructure and none of those reasons are incorrect, they aren't sure things but the reasons are sound and logical. For some reason this appears to get under your skin which is both amusing and bewildering, especially considering what you just wrote is right in line with what I think but for some reason the suggestion of going back to Romo is off limits for you.

But go on, please describe in detail what is incorrect about what I have posted.

:popcorn:
 

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Is this sort of under-the-table compensation or benefit allowed?

1) I seriously doubt it.

2) Good luck finding an insurance company that would play ball. Insurance companies won't even provide health insurance to regular retired players after they leave the NFL. They'd take one look at that Romo proposal and be like "lol nope".
 
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