Why Can't We Be the Eagles?

windward said:
Peters: a first, fourth and sixth
Wisniewski: UFA
Kelce : 6th Round
Brooks: UFA 5 years $40M
Lane Johnson : 4th overall pick

How is that a minimal investment?
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The heir to peters is mailata. Eagles insiders are stunned that he has improved at such a rate in one off season...he will be a monster.
 
ejthedj said:
Watching the Eagles again last night, I came to the realization that this is a team with a great defense and a sub-par offense. Why can't we be the same?

Their best offensive player, outside of the oline, is Zach Ertz. He and Beasley have about the same level of production imo.

Their next best player is probably the RB combo of Sproles and Ajayi. Even combined they don't hold a candle to Zeke.

Agolohor is decent but nothing that we don't get from a Hurns or a Gallup or a Twill.

The rest of their receivers are trash.

Foles isn't nearly as good as Dak.

Yet they have a stud offensive line, just like us, that makes scoring points possible.

Now, their D so far is much superior to ours. However, I'm liking our chances to narrow the gap and to be a top 7 defense. If we can do that, then we have the same blueprint that won the SB last year. Except we have more dynamic offensive players. They got no one in the same league as Zeke.
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The eagles blow. Not impressed. We will sweep them this year with ease. Had that been Dallas playing them we easily beat them. Atlanta suck on offense now after the scheme changes and what not.

Dont let that game fool you. Both those teams will suck this year.
 
windward said:
Peters: a first, fourth and sixth
Wisniewski: UFA
Kelce : 6th Round
Brooks: UFA 5 years $40M
Lane Johnson : 4th overall pick

How is that a minimal investment?
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Both Peters and Smith cost their teams first round picks, with Smith's being substantially more valuable trumping the late round picks Philly added to the Peters deal. Peters was a guaranteed pro bowler in the beginning of his prime for barely more than a 1st. That beats gambling with first round picks, even though Dallas hit a home run with Smith. Would you draft a receiver in the first round, or trade that pick for Deandre Hopkins? Would you spend one on a linebacker, or trade for Anthony Barr? Peters has made 9 pro bowls, and judging by thursday he'll be in his 10th this year. Oh yeah, Peters makes 10M$ annually, Smith 12. Again, not arguing who's better, just the value vs what was spent.

Kelce, Brooks, and Wiz combined cost 1 6th round pick in draft capital. Those 3 cost us approximately 17M$ a year on their longterm deals. Conversely, Martin, Frederick, and Connor Williams cost the Cowboys two 1st round picks, one 2nd round pick, and about 25m$ annually.

Lane is a first team all-pro first round pick that makes 11 M$ annually. He is the 12th highest paid tackle in football, beating out everyone in front of him for an all-pro spot. La'el Collins is not a pro bowl caliber player, and he makes 7.5 m$ a year through his extension.

Philly's line cost two 1's, a 4, and 2 6's. They make about 38m$ a year.
Dallas's line cost 3 1's and a 2. They make about 43.5m$ annually.

I'm not arguing who has a better line, where clearly Dallas has youth on their side.
 
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CowboyRoy said:
Without Wentz and their top wideout, it’s still a decent offense. With them, it’s one of the best. They were rusty. But what you saw was a good coach that did whatever trick he had to give them an edge.

The only thing I didn’t like is that they should have given ajaya the ball 25 times last night and pounded it. Too cute with the rb’a.
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Wow, a so called Cowboys fan making excuses for a poor offensive showing by the Eagles. Now, I’ve seen it all.
 
Aerolithe_Lion said:
Both Peters and Smith cost their teams first round picks, with Smith's being substantially more valuable trumping the late round picks Philly added to the Peters deal. Peters was a guaranteed pro bowler in the beginning of his prime for barely more than a 1st. That beats gambling with first round picks, even though Dallas hit a home run with Smith. Would you draft a receiver in the first round, or trade that pick for Deandre Hopkins? Would you spend one on a linebacker, or trade for Anthony Barr? Peters has made 9 pro bowls, and judging by thursday he'll be in his 10th this year. Oh yeah, Peters makes 10M$ annually, Smith 12. Again, not arguing who's better, just the value vs what was spent.

Kelce, Brooks, and Wiz combined cost 1 6th round pick in draft capital. Those 3 cost us approximately 17M$ a year on their longterm deals. Conversely, Martin, Frederick, and Connor Williams cost the Cowboys two 1st round picks, one 2nd round pick, and about 25m$ annually.

Lane is a first team all-pro first round pick that makes 11 M$ annually. He is the 12th highest paid tackle in football, beating out everyone in front of him for an all-pro spot. La'el Collins is not a pro bowl caliber player, and he makes 7.5 m$ a year through his extension.

Philly's line cost two 1's, a 4, and 2 6's. They make about 38m$ a year.
Dallas's line cost 3 1's and a 2. They make about 43.5m$ annually.

I'm not arguing who has a better line, where clearly Dallas has youth on their side.
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Don’t disagree with any of that. Just thought it was weird that someone said they made a minimal investment.
 
cowboys will be much better then the crowd predictions.
NFL is a crap show,,, the process has concluded,,, nobody knows this.
 
Tommy said:
That’s what happens when you reply after only reading the thread title.
I read his post and deleted mine.
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Ya gotta love the responses though... lol
I loved the lifetime ban suggestion. Just a poor choice for title
which is what made it fun. Like a guy getting ready to get jumped and talks his way out.
Now, he's at the bar and everyone's buying him drinks... lol
 
When I look at this Cowboys team I can squint and actually see a scenario where they could win the whole thing. But I also see scenarios where they go 8-8 or even worse. The defense looks great on paper and the glimpses we got in preseason back that up. But it has to be proven on the field. The running game will be fine, but Dak and his no name receiving corps are the real X factor. If Dak can effectively stretch the field on the outside and work the mid range middle of the field then we can be scary good.
 
ejthedj said:
Watching the Eagles again last night, I came to the realization that this is a team with a great defense and a sub-par offense. Why can't we be the same?

Their best offensive player, outside of the oline, is Zach Ertz. He and Beasley have about the same level of production imo.

Their next best player is probably the RB combo of Sproles and Ajayi. Even combined they don't hold a candle to Zeke.

Agolohor is decent but nothing that we don't get from a Hurns or a Gallup or a Twill.

The rest of their receivers are trash.

Foles isn't nearly as good as Dak.

Yet they have a stud offensive line, just like us, that makes scoring points possible.

Now, their D so far is much superior to ours. However, I'm liking our chances to narrow the gap and to be a top 7 defense. If we can do that, then we have the same blueprint that won the SB last year. Except we have more dynamic offensive players. They got no one in the same league as Zeke.
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Damn I didnt know we already played the game. This scheduling is the problem.
 
ejthedj said:
Watching the Eagles again last night, I came to the realization that this is a team with a great defense and a sub-par offense. Why can't we be the same?

Their best offensive player, outside of the oline, is Zach Ertz. He and Beasley have about the same level of production imo.

Their next best player is probably the RB combo of Sproles and Ajayi. Even combined they don't hold a candle to Zeke.

Agolohor is decent but nothing that we don't get from a Hurns or a Gallup or a Twill.

The rest of their receivers are trash.

Foles isn't nearly as good as Dak.

Yet they have a stud offensive line, just like us, that makes scoring points possible.

Now, their D so far is much superior to ours. However, I'm liking our chances to narrow the gap and to be a top 7 defense. If we can do that, then we have the same blueprint that won the SB last year. Except we have more dynamic offensive players. They got no one in the same league as Zeke.
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The Eagles offense is better than you think! I learned a long time ago that the sign of a very good team or very good player in individual sports is playing like crap and still winning!
The Eagles defense gets that push right up the middle and their CBs play aggressive. I think we will see Dallas CBs play that way with Richards coaching them but I dont think Dallas has the size in the middle of the D line to get the push up the middle. Im hoping this Dallas defense takes it to another level from where they were last year.
 
1 word CLASS. Dallas has Class, Philly doesn't ...

They were booing an injured Falcon. That's some kind of great fanbase.
 
Rockport said:
Wow, a so called Cowboys fan making excuses for a poor offensive showing by the Eagles. Now, I’ve seen it all.
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What I see is a true NFL fan that has an unbiased opinon. Everything he said was pretty much true!
 
DakPresgoat said:
Coaching.
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Coaching is everything. Vince Lombardi

Eagles DC is killer. I highly respect the Coaching on this team.
Pederson saw some ugly things and, on the spot, adjusted, and got them moving, enough to pull it out.
On NFL Network, Pederson said that last year, he and the players TOGETHER discussed what works and what doesn't. So, now, in real time, they adjust, and they all KNOW exactly what to do in game situations all on the same page. I greatly admire Pederson. He reminds me of Don Draper in Mad Men. Thinks and acts on his feet quickly. And he is RELENTLESS and AGGRESSIVE.
 
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