Why do some think Wade would accept a demotion?

[WoodysGirl]

Not sure I understand why some would think he would.

I've never seen a case where the current leader of an organization would willingly step aside and take a demotion. If someone else is brought in, then Wade is gone. I doubt he'll stick around to run the defense. And logically speaking, I'm not sure a new HC would want Wade around anyway.

 

[Doomsday101]

Not sure I understand why some would think he would.

I've never seen a case where the current leader of an organization would willingly step aside and take a demotion. If someone else is brought in, then Wade is gone. I doubt he'll stick around to run the defense.

I agree I don't think Wade or any coach would be willing to do this.

 

[Alexander]

Not sure I understand why some would think he would.

I've never seen a case where the current leader of an organization would willingly step aside and take a demotion. If someone else is brought in, then Wade is gone. I doubt he'll stick around to run the defense. And logically speaking, I'm not sure a new HC would want Wade around anyway.

You can't assume he would and I have no idea why it would be something people believe he would. For all his aw shucks demeanor, he makes it clear that he fancies himself as a quality head coach. He said something to that effect the other day when he corrected Hitzges. "Head coach".

I suppose the fact Romeo Crennel has been rumored to be open to doing a similar thing in Cleveland has people's hopes up. It would shock me if Phillips considered it.

 

[CATCH17]

Not sure I understand why some would think he would.

I've never seen a case where the current leader of an organization would willingly step aside and take a demotion. If someone else is brought in, then Wade is gone. I doubt he'll stick around to run the defense. And logically speaking, I'm not sure a new HC would want Wade around anyway.

I doubt very seriously he would but if there is ever a coach who has the personality to accept a demotion like this it would be Wade.

If I were Jerry I would get rid of Wade because of the odds of having the team split and only listening to one coach or the other would increase.

Only problem is we need Wade calling our defenses. His play designs are exactly what this D needs.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I have no belief, what so ever, that he'd actually do it. I can't see the vast majority of guys being willing to do that. Romeo being rumored to be willing to do it actually surprised me a lot.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I doubt very seriously he would but if there is ever a coach who has the personality to accept a demotion like this it would be Wade.

If I were Jerry I would get rid of Wade because of the odds of having the team split and only listening to one coach or the other would increase.

Only problem is we need Wade calling our defenses. His play designs are exactly what this D needs.

Like Alexander said, Wade sees himself as the head coach, not just the DC.

Unlike you, I do think he does have a bit of an ego in that he's not going to stick around to run the defense.

 

[CATCH17]

Like Alexander said, Wade sees himself as the head coach, not just the DC.

Unlike you, I do think he does have a bit of an ego in that he's not going to stick around to run the defense.

You are probably right. Don't get me wrong.

But if Jerry says you can keep your salary that you have now, and not have to leave Texas, then Wade may not be able to turn it down.

I think its a bad move to keep him around either way. But from an X's and O's stand point we would still need him desperately.

I have no belief, what so ever, that he'd actually do it. I can't see the vast majority of guys being willing to do that. Romeo being rumored to be willing to do it actually surprised me a lot.

A lot of that has to do with these guys not wanting to leave their community.

These guys have family's too and jumping around from place to place sucks for everyone in their family.

Maybe he will swallow some pride so his family doesn't have to start a new life all over again.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I could see a situation where Wade Phillips would accept a demotion.

However, I could never see a situation where a GM would offer a Head Coach a demotion a year removed from being the team's Head Coach.

This would be stupid and extremely dangerous as you would have some players still loyal to the former Head Coach and this would only create tension and attempts to undermine the new Head Coach.

If Wade Phillips were demoted to Defensive Coordinator, I gurantee you that there would be players running to Wade Phillips everytime they don't like what the new Head Coach says.

Good idea in a perfect world, bad idea in the real world.

 

[chinch]

Why do some think Wade would accept a demotion?

Wishful thinking.

Its sorta tough to grasp the severity that our dunce owner/GM is keeping the Wade/Jason/Jerry circus together for another flop in 2009.

 

[RainMan]

Most importantly, I don't know that we should want him to stick around as a defensive coordinator. Yes, from an Xs and Os standpoint, it makes complete sense.

But we've already lived through two years of, at least in perception, the head-coach-in-waiting casting a large shadow over the head coach and creating questions of the loyalty and commitment to each other. Not sure we need a situation where it could be speculated the defensive coordinator is working under a different agenda from the head coach, not to mention all the potential sabotage angles that could be construed.

 

[dcfanatic]

He wouldn't, nor should he and nor should the new HC want to retain him.

Let's not even talk about how much of a disaster this would be with this group of players who love to form their own cliques it seems.

Now that I have said that there is one scenario in which I could Wade as the DC with a new head coach in place.

Jerry Jones - Owner, GM and Head Coach.

The man is a triple threat!!!

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

The guy has an ego. He refused to fire a ST coach when the HC of another team an in doing so basically brought to an end his HC stint with that team.

Now who knows, maybe he just wanted out of that contract or team and he knew what would happen.

But I just don't see people being realistic saying we should just demote him to DC.

I think he would rather be fired and become DC elsewhere instead of doing it here.

Then again...we live in a madden world with some.

 

[coach316]

Like Alexander said, Wade sees himself as the head coach, not just the DC.

Unlike you, I do think he does have a bit of an ego in that he's not going to stick around to run the defense.

I agree. And imagine, with his head coaching rep what it was before taking this job, the kind of hit it would take if he stepped back into the DC role and this team made it to the SB. I don't think he'd take that chance.

 

[Stash]

Not sure I understand why some would think he would.

I've never seen a case where the current leader of an organization would willingly step aside and take a demotion. If someone else is brought in, then Wade is gone. I doubt he'll stick around to run the defense. And logically speaking, I'm not sure a new HC would want Wade around anyway.

Irrational, wishful thinking by us fans looking for even a shred of hope.

Hope that the 'powers that be' could somehow see what's been proven so clearly time-and-time again.

That Wade Phillips is a quality defensive coordinator who becomes an abject failure when given the responsibilities of a head coaching role.

 

[TheCount]

I don't think he would, but the only way I could see this working is if Jerry and Wade have built up some kind of level of trust, especially after Jerry went to bat and said his job was safe regardless. If Wade bombs next season, then he MAY feel some sort of loyalty to Jerry and perhaps even realize DC is what he does best. As a DC he doesn't have to be mean, which isn't his nature.

Of course, he wouldn't take a pay cut if that were the case though, Jerry would have to keep paying him like a HC.

 

[Hostile]

Not sure I understand why some would think he would.

I've never seen a case where the current leader of an organization would willingly step aside and take a demotion. If someone else is brought in, then Wade is gone. I doubt he'll stick around to run the defense. And logically speaking, I'm not sure a new HC would want Wade around anyway.

Because they can do it on Madden.

:madden:

 

[Daudr]

Not sure I understand why some would think he would.

I've never seen a case where the current leader of an organization would willingly step aside and take a demotion. If someone else is brought in, then Wade is gone. I doubt he'll stick around to run the defense. And logically speaking, I'm not sure a new HC would want Wade around anyway.

Have you seen some of the "wonderful" theories that people come up with on this forum? Wade sticking around as a DC after being fired is probably one of the more sane options that some people think up here. Of course there is zero chance of it ever happening, but what else is new around here?

 

[jobberone]

He might stay for the money. He doesn't have a big ego to feed. This is likely his last gig anyway. For the money and the chance to do the job he does best he might. I doubt it but if anyone would he might be him. How do you approach someone with that?

 

[TheCount]

He might stay for the money. He doesn't have a big ego to feed. This is likely his last gig anyway. For the money and the chance to do the job he does best he might. I doubt it but if anyone would he might be him. How do you approach someone with that?

I doubt it, he'd probably rather be a DC elsewhere for less money than be demoted on the team he used to head coach. He could get a DC job pretty easily right now, and I'm sure a team like the Lions would be willing to give him a HC job if he was available.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

A lot of that has to do with these guys not wanting to leave their community.

These guys have family's too and jumping around from place to place sucks for everyone in their family.

Maybe he will swallow some pride so his family doesn't have to start a new life all over again.

I can understand that, certainly, but I believe that is one of the prices those people willing pay when they decide they want to be coaches for a living.