Why does our team lack emotion?

[SupermanXx]

I don't know why we don't, but it annoys the living hell out of me that we don't

like you said... look at defenses like Baltimore, Pittsburgh, San Diego, Philly... those guys are just downright MEAN and get pumped

us, not so much... no swagger, no mean streak, no confidence, no emotion.

well... with the exception of Spears and Ratliff

 

[TSquare]

cause frankenstein is our qb

I particularly liked his apathetic and dive for the endzone on that keeper. He was robotlike and I could hear the collective yawns of his teammates as he got clobbered by two guys at the pylon. Clearly the play of somebody who isn't fired up.

There are different kinds of fired up. You don't have to scream and yell like an idiot to be intense. And it's everybody's job on both sides of the ball to reach the level of intensity in their own way.

 

[Noryb]

Yeah but they are a buch of "high character" guys, which many people think is more important than winning.

Persnally I'll take the early 90's over this crap any day of the week.

 

[Stautner]

I particularly liked his apathetic and dive for the endzone on that keeper. He was robotlike and I could hear the collective yawns of his teammates as he got clobbered by two guys at the pylon. Clearly the play of somebody who isn't fired up.

There are different kinds of fired up. You don't have to scream and yell like an idiot to be intense. And it's everybody's job on both sides of the ball to reach the level of intensity in their own way.

Very good point - i would have jumped up and high fived Bledsoe at that point if I could have.

Despite his obvious shortcomings, Bledsoe isn't any worse in the emotion department than most QB's, and he clearly has a strong desire to succeed.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

it's pretty simple...our gameplan lacks agressiveness. When you see other CBs jumping routes...when you see other safeties blitzing...when you other Trotter with 5.5 40 speed on sportscenter crushing people...when you see bums catching 90 yard bombs...etc you cannot help but wonder why that is not you...so I think it drains the excitment. Bend don't break is the kind of defense you play with 4th and 5th rounders.

 

[TtownCowboy]

I think teams take on the personality of their fans. The cowboys play like the fans at Texas stadium.....passive. If you look at your very aggressive teams...they usually have aggressive fan base (philadelphia, Baltimore, San Diego). The raiders are the exception to this because the dont mirror their fan base.

Gotta disagree w/this. We may not be like Philty fans but that is a good thing. I've been to a few. The Ring of Honor game last year on MNF was one, and that place was a mad house the whole time, whole stadium. The fans react to the action on the field. You give em' something to be emotional about they'll do it. Even at Texas Stadium.

 

[5Stars]

I think it could be that the players are "playing scared"...and I mean not scared of the other team, but, scared of making a mistake and having Parcells jump their butts about it...

Sometimes you have to take chances to be aggressive and make plays, but, I don't think the players want to do that...I think they are worried about doing the EXACT right thing to please Parcells, hence they play tentative...

 

[Stautner]

it's pretty simple...our gameplan lacks agressiveness. When you see other CBs jumping routes...when you see other safeties blitzing...when you other Trotter with 5.5 40 speed on sportscenter crushing people...when you see bums catching 90 yard bombs...etc you cannot help but wonder why that is not you...so I think it drains the excitment. Bend don't break is the kind of defense you play with 4th and 5th rounders.

Oh my god - how much babbling nonsense can people spit out.

There's that mantra again - it's always the coaches fault, never the players fault. Except then you turn around full circle and say it IS the players fault - a problem with 4th and 5th rounders ......

WHICH IS IT?

Then you blame a "bend but don't break" philosophy, then you complain that we allowed a deep pass .......

WHICH IS IT?

If you paid attention, one of the plays we got burned on was when we tried to blitz a CB - it wasn't lack of agressiveness that cost us, it was the opposite - a failure to adequately handle an agressive tactic.

Which may explain why Parcells is a little leery of allowing the defense to do too much - he's worried that they are too young and inexperienced to adequately handle too many complex maneuvers.

By the way, do you really think all the successful players in the NFL are 1st and 2nd rounders? You couldn't put together a solid team if you excluded the later rounds. There are a hell of a lot of successful 4th and 5th rounders around the league.

 

[TtownCowboy]

Oh my god - how much babbling nonsense can people spit out.

There's that mantra again - it's always the coaches fault, never the players fault.

Except then you turn around full circle and say it IS the players fault ......

WHICH IS IT?

Then you blame a "bend but don't break" philosophy, then you complain that we allowed a deep pass .......

WHICH IS IT?

If you paid attention, one of the plays we got burned on was when we tried to blitz a CB - it wasn't lack of agressiveness - it was a failure to adequately handle an agressive tactic.

Which may explain why Parcells is a little leery of allowing the defense to do too much - he's worried that they are too young and inexperienced to adequately handle too many complex maneuvers.

Hey it's Bobby Carpenter, Parcells waterboy coming on here to get his back.
Please. The team looks the way the coach looks.

 

[Stautner]

Hey it's Bobby Carpenter, Parcells waterboy coming on here to get his back.
Please. The team looks the way the coach looks.

The team looks the way the coach looks?

What does this mean, that if Parcells wears slacks and Polo shirts with a sweater tied around his neck the team will look preppy?

The fact is we DID jump routes (Glenn should have had a pick), and we DID get agressive (we got burned when we ran a CB blitz) and we aren't manned by a bunch of 4th and 5th rounders (we have at least 5 first rounders starting on defense).

Maybe we could get stand to get a little more agressive, and maybe that would just lead to more mistakes, but to automatically assume we should be able to do everything that the Ravens or Chargers can do is baseless - we are still wet behind the ears on defense and very few of the guys have made any kind of mark or proven much of anything yet.

It's a work in progress.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

you are missing the point..our overall tone should be controlled agression..we should never let the QB get comfortable...it is not about sacks..it's about pressures, hurries, and sacks....against elite teams we do not make the opposing QB uncomfortable

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

I did not say we have 4th and 5th rounders...I said our scheme is executed as if we are trying to protect guys with no talent (like 4th and 5th rounders)...we allegedly have "studs"....we ceartainly are paying them like they are studs...so show the fans what they can do

 

[THUMPER]

We have all seen teams that seem "fired up" to be playing football.

We saw one last night.

The Ravens almost seem insane, .. Lewis, Reed, Suggs, .. players jumping up and down.

Fired up. !!

I see an occasional fist go up the air during our games, but that is usually a ST guy.

And no emotion at all on the sidelines.

Football is one sport that attitude can make a huge impact.

I miss Michael.

I'll tell you why but you won't want to hear it... Bill Parcells.

Parcells is afraid of losing and hates mistakes. The players are more concerned with NOT making mistakes than they are with making plays. That worked pretty well back in the day under Landry, Paul Brown, George Halas, and the like but not in today's world. The game is different now than it was even in the early 90s let alone the 80s and before.

Parcells is NOT the coach we need for this team. I thought he would be when we brought him in but he has proven that he plays not to lose rather than to win and it has trickled down to the players so that they have the same mentality. If you want playmakers then we need a different HC.

We haven't shown any real emotion since our last SB.

 

[Stautner]

you are missing the point..our overall tone should be controlled agression..we should never let the QB get comfortable...it is not about sacks..it's about pressures, hurries, and sacks....against elite teams we do not make the opposing QB uncomfortable

Maybe we should do more of that, but then again Parcells still may not trust his young players with little 3-4 experience enough to handle everything. Like I said, the fact that we did such a poor job covering for Henry when he blitzed seems to indicate that we still have things to learn.

People have to keep in mind that Ware, Spears, Canty, Watkins, and most others on the defense are not star players.

They have a lot of potential, but as I've said many times, potential and production are not the same thing. It's premature to assume these guys can handle anything the coaches throw at them - they still have to prove themselves worthy.

I think too many fans get caught in the hype and begin to treat these guys as star calibre players before they actually prove that they are - and the result is that they blame the coaches for them not playing like stars.

 

[Galian Beast]

You have fun after you win a few games...

When you see us dominating teams, you'll see more excitement.

 

[TtownCowboy]

The team looks the way the coach looks?

What does this mean, that if Parcells wears slacks and Polo shirts with a sweater tied around his neck the team will look preppy?

The fact is we DID jump routes (Glenn should have had a pick), and we DID get agressive (we got burned when we ran a CB blitz) and we aren't manned by a bunch of 4th and 5th rounders (we have at least 5 first rounders starting on defense).

Maybe we could get stand to get a little more agressive, and maybe that would just lead to more mistakes, but to automatically assume we should be able to do everything that the Ravens or Chargers can do is baseless - we are still wet behind the ears on defense and very few of the guys have made any kind of mark or proven much of anything yet.


Yeah that's it they wear the same clothes and stuff. Idiot.

You are never quite as bright as I give you credit. The teams personality matches our coaches. He's a grumpy old man who only has fire when somebody screws up. I'm actually going to get my post count up explaining stuff to you.

 

[austintodallas]

I think it could be that the players are "playing scared"...and I mean not scared of the other team, but, scared of making a mistake and having Parcells jump their butts about it...

Sometimes you have to take chances to be aggressive and make plays, but, I don't think the players want to do that...I think they are worried about doing the EXACT right thing to please Parcells, hence they play tentative...

Bingo. Parcells takes the fun out of the game and the fire out of the players.