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Trysten Hill should be the pick at 58. We should not reach for a S (unless Thornhill or Rapp is there, which are not reaches IMO).
Here is my reasoning:
-Hill fits the athletic profile of the 3-techniques we like. He measured almost 6'3", 308, 33 3/8" reach (good), 5.04 40yard (good), 4.38 shuttle (best DT overall), 7.70 3 cone (bad), 35" vert (best DT overall), 9'7" long (2nd best DT overall), 28 bench (good). By comparison, DT Quinnen Williams (#3 overall by NYJ) ran a 4.83 40, 30.5" vert, and 9'4" broad & DT Christian Wilkins (#13 overall by MIA), ran a 5.04 40, 4.55 shuttle, 29.5 vert, and 8'11" long. There is no denying that Hill is an exceptional athlete for his size.
-We have a real need at 3-Tech with Maleik Collins in a contract year and Tyrone Crawford a potential cap casualty next year. I actually think the 3-Tech need is greater than the Safety need, especially for this defense. We all saw what the Rams did running the ball down our throats. Would have been nice to have another disruptor at DT.
-While it is right to have concerns about Hill's coachability, work ethic and career arc at USF, I am willing to give him a pass. We have no idea how the switch in coaching staff's affected him. While we all would like to think that we would be the same employee if our entire management team got replaced, some of us would not. And we're talking about a 20-year old kid. What is not disputed though, is ON THE FIELD, he gives 100% effort. He chases and runs down plays far from him. To me, the on the field work ethic says more about a player's football character than dust ups with coaching staffs off the field.
-Here is a scouting report from BTB:
Pros:
Twitched up, explosive athlete that fires off the ball at an extremely quick pace. First step and initial burst allows Hill to win with speed on a consistent basis. Once beating the guard with speed, Hill is able to flatten out his rush path by flipping his hips and getting his lead foot facing the quarterback. Plays much more flexible on tape than his 3-cone at the combine suggests. Plays with an extremely high motor when rushing the quarterback, chasing down running plays from the backside, and chasing down ball carriers down the field. Lived in the backfield at UCF despite the less than ideal sack numbers. Active and powerful hands allows him to walk offensive lineman back with his bullrush, but also counter with a push-pull. Upper body strength leaves offensive lineman guessing, which then results in poor weigh distribution on initial pass sets. Blew up a ton of inside running plays by penetrating the pocket as the running back receives the handoff. Squat, thick build that allows him to play with natural leverage when rushing up the field. Very athletic for 308-lb interior lineman. Showcased a push-pull, arm-over, and bull rush as his three top pass rush moves.
Cons:
Gap discipline is poor. Often focused too much on getting up the field and less on maintaining and filling his gap. Gave up big plays in the running game due to the poor gap discipline. Inconsistent pad level leads to Hill getting turned and driven off the ball by stronger, more physical offensive lineman. Lacks a true pass rush plan at times which will lead to lack of consistency as a rusher. Struggled to the find the football at times, which would have helped bring up his sack and tackles for loss totals over his career at UCF. Struggles to anchor and spends more time on the ground than you’d like to see with a player of his upper and body strength. Career arch at UCF has been a interesting one. Was by far the best defensive player for UCF in 2018, but started only one game. Work ethic and character has been put in question by former coaches and scouts around the league.
Overall Review:
In a day in age where teams are looking for their interior defensive lineman to live in the backfield, Trysten Hill is a perfect mold for that role. Hill is one of the more explosive defensive linemen in this years draft class holding the best vertical, best 20-yard shuttle, and second best broad-jump, and for 300lb + defensive lineman at the combine. Would fit perfectly in Rod Marinelli’s defense as a one-gapping 3-technique. Reminds a bit of Maliek Collins when coming out of Nebraska, but athletic traits gives Hill a higher ceiling as a pass rusher. Athleticism, upfield penetrating skills, and pass rush ability are never questioned with Hill, but his consistency as a run defender, pad level, lack of instincts, and character concerns may force him down the board a few rounds later than his tape would suggest.
I believe that Hill, in a rotation at 3-Tech with M. Collins and C. Covington, will have more of an impact this year, and long term, than a Safety, who might not start over Iloka or Heath.
Here is my reasoning:
-Hill fits the athletic profile of the 3-techniques we like. He measured almost 6'3", 308, 33 3/8" reach (good), 5.04 40yard (good), 4.38 shuttle (best DT overall), 7.70 3 cone (bad), 35" vert (best DT overall), 9'7" long (2nd best DT overall), 28 bench (good). By comparison, DT Quinnen Williams (#3 overall by NYJ) ran a 4.83 40, 30.5" vert, and 9'4" broad & DT Christian Wilkins (#13 overall by MIA), ran a 5.04 40, 4.55 shuttle, 29.5 vert, and 8'11" long. There is no denying that Hill is an exceptional athlete for his size.
-We have a real need at 3-Tech with Maleik Collins in a contract year and Tyrone Crawford a potential cap casualty next year. I actually think the 3-Tech need is greater than the Safety need, especially for this defense. We all saw what the Rams did running the ball down our throats. Would have been nice to have another disruptor at DT.
-While it is right to have concerns about Hill's coachability, work ethic and career arc at USF, I am willing to give him a pass. We have no idea how the switch in coaching staff's affected him. While we all would like to think that we would be the same employee if our entire management team got replaced, some of us would not. And we're talking about a 20-year old kid. What is not disputed though, is ON THE FIELD, he gives 100% effort. He chases and runs down plays far from him. To me, the on the field work ethic says more about a player's football character than dust ups with coaching staffs off the field.
-Here is a scouting report from BTB:
Pros:
Twitched up, explosive athlete that fires off the ball at an extremely quick pace. First step and initial burst allows Hill to win with speed on a consistent basis. Once beating the guard with speed, Hill is able to flatten out his rush path by flipping his hips and getting his lead foot facing the quarterback. Plays much more flexible on tape than his 3-cone at the combine suggests. Plays with an extremely high motor when rushing the quarterback, chasing down running plays from the backside, and chasing down ball carriers down the field. Lived in the backfield at UCF despite the less than ideal sack numbers. Active and powerful hands allows him to walk offensive lineman back with his bullrush, but also counter with a push-pull. Upper body strength leaves offensive lineman guessing, which then results in poor weigh distribution on initial pass sets. Blew up a ton of inside running plays by penetrating the pocket as the running back receives the handoff. Squat, thick build that allows him to play with natural leverage when rushing up the field. Very athletic for 308-lb interior lineman. Showcased a push-pull, arm-over, and bull rush as his three top pass rush moves.
Cons:
Gap discipline is poor. Often focused too much on getting up the field and less on maintaining and filling his gap. Gave up big plays in the running game due to the poor gap discipline. Inconsistent pad level leads to Hill getting turned and driven off the ball by stronger, more physical offensive lineman. Lacks a true pass rush plan at times which will lead to lack of consistency as a rusher. Struggled to the find the football at times, which would have helped bring up his sack and tackles for loss totals over his career at UCF. Struggles to anchor and spends more time on the ground than you’d like to see with a player of his upper and body strength. Career arch at UCF has been a interesting one. Was by far the best defensive player for UCF in 2018, but started only one game. Work ethic and character has been put in question by former coaches and scouts around the league.
Overall Review:
In a day in age where teams are looking for their interior defensive lineman to live in the backfield, Trysten Hill is a perfect mold for that role. Hill is one of the more explosive defensive linemen in this years draft class holding the best vertical, best 20-yard shuttle, and second best broad-jump, and for 300lb + defensive lineman at the combine. Would fit perfectly in Rod Marinelli’s defense as a one-gapping 3-technique. Reminds a bit of Maliek Collins when coming out of Nebraska, but athletic traits gives Hill a higher ceiling as a pass rusher. Athleticism, upfield penetrating skills, and pass rush ability are never questioned with Hill, but his consistency as a run defender, pad level, lack of instincts, and character concerns may force him down the board a few rounds later than his tape would suggest.
I believe that Hill, in a rotation at 3-Tech with M. Collins and C. Covington, will have more of an impact this year, and long term, than a Safety, who might not start over Iloka or Heath.
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