Why Garrett didn't argue the Clock

tecolote

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Yea but at the same time you can argue that Romo was responsible for a few of those losses. Maybe as much as some of the wins he had too.

And its not a overachieving bunch at all. But I do think they played to their capabilities and gave it all they had.

In his 3 years with Garrett, Romo has averaged 30 tds to 13 ints. To not make the playoffs or at least have a winning record with that level of QB play is a testament to the head coaches ineptitude.
 
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So what? Just standing there not knowing what the hell is going on is a good look for a head coach? The players on the field noticed something was wrong and their "leader" was just standing there on the sideline with his head up his rear end.

And I ask again, what did you want him to do at that point? Throw a hissyfit on the sideline? Cuss the referee and all his ancestors too,, what exactly would have made you feel better about the Ref totally blowing a call that should be routine.

Don’t panic – when all around you is in chaos, you must be the hand that steers the ship. If you have a panic button so will everyone else. Our ship can’t have a panic button.
 

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what do you think the staff was suppose to do. it's not reviewable

We all realize it's not reviewable. A clock issue like that wouldn't be. I have seen coaches raise stink and take issue with the error. To be honest, I am only contending we were either unaware or unwilling to make much of it. Call me crazy, but yeah, I am making the bold assertion that this coaching staff goes deer in headlights at key moments such as that.
 

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And I ask again, what did you want him to do at that point? Throw a hissyfit on the sideline? Cuss the referee and all his ancestors too,, what exactly would have made you feel better about the Ref totally blowing a call that should be routine.

Don’t panic – when all around you is in chaos, you must be the hand that steers the ship. If you have a panic button so will everyone else. Our ship can’t have a panic button.

Actually yes, just to show he knows what is going on. It's like that timeout he called with 23 seconds left, he just does not have a clue sometimes.
 

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It wasn't obvious to anyone until the penalty was called. Once the penalty was called, it couldn't be changed. Like I said in my other post, bash him for one of his actual mistakes, there are a few to select from but bashing him over this is really just silly.
That's simply not the case. It should have been obvious to anyone paying attention on the sidelines. Or the QB. The coaches have to see it immediately. What's silly is defending a bush league coach with a bush league staff.
 

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i don't think anyone really knew until the replay was showed on NBC.

The coaches need to watch a replay to see the game clock? It's at multiple places around the stadium. They simply weren't paying attention to detail.
 

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In his 3 years with Garrett, Romo has averaged 30 tds to 13 ints. To not make the playoffs or at least have a winning record with that level of QB play is a testament to the head coaches ineptitude.

Yea but when your defense keeps getting progressively worse it doesn't matter how good your quarterback is. Because your quarterback isn't gonna be flawless. I've never seen a guy throw for 30 TD's and 0 INT's. Romo hasn't been flawless and he has thrown some game losing INT's. Romo is not blameless here either. Its a collection of players and coaches and GM's who are responsible for this.
 

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The coaches need to watch a replay to see the game clock? It's at multiple places around the stadium. They simply weren't paying attention to detail.

The clock randomly losing 15 seconds is, as far as I know, unprecedented. I think the detail of making sure the play clock starts at 40 seconds every time is one that coaches can be forgiven for leaving off their radar. In 99.999% of cases the presumption that the clock won't go wonky is safe.
 

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Yea but when your defense keeps getting progressively worse it doesn't matter how good your quarterback is. Because your quarterback isn't gonna be flawless. I've never seen a guy throw for 30 TD's and 0 INT's. Romo hasn't been flawless and he has thrown some game losing INT's. Romo is not blameless here either. Its a collection of players and coaches and GM's who are responsible for this.

Everyone has some blame, I agree, but you can't excuse the head coach of the defense getting progressively worse. He is the head coach, not the OC, after all.
 

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Everyone has some blame, I agree, but you can't excuse the head coach of the defense getting progressively worse. He is the head coach, not the OC, after all.

Well if we're talking about who's to blame coach wise? I'd go DC first, then OC and then HC. We may not like the guy but these guys play hard for Garrett. I remember the last year Wade Phillips was here when he got fired during the season.....that team had given up. It was the worst effort I had ever seen at the time. Everyone was laying down. We made David Garrard and Vince Young look like Peyton Manning in his prime. It was incredible on how they lied down for such a player firendly coach. These guys play hard for Garrett. That's one thing I will give him credit for. Not saying that warrants being brought back but its amazing how you can constantly go 8-8 and lose the last game of the season the same way and still have confidence in your Head Coach.
 

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The clock randomly losing 15 seconds is, as far as I know, unprecedented. I think the detail of making sure the play clock starts at 40 seconds every time is one that coaches can be forgiven for leaving off their radar. In 99.999% of cases the presumption that the clock won't go wonky is safe.
I doubt it really "lost" 15 seconds. The timekeeper likely accidentally reset it to 25 seconds after setting it to 40. You see mistakes with the playclock like this often. Teams complain, the ref stops the clock and tells them to reset it to 25 seconds, the game goes on.

But if it was a malfunction, then a few times every year you'll see the refs announce they're stopping using the playclock because it isn't working properly. Again, the key there is that someone has to see the error, and if the refs don't, the coaches could've immediately pointed out it was at 25 instead of 40.

The key part of that we didn't see last night was neither the refs nor the moronic team in blue noticed it was reset to 25. But, similarly, just like they do things like ice their own kicker, botch when to use timeouts, and run the ball 7 times when the opponent can't stop the run, coaching at the NFL level is way over the heads of our coaching staff. A clock conscious team like say, the way Indy used to be, would've pointed it out to the refs immediately.
 

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I doubt it really "lost" 15 seconds. The timekeeper likely accidentally reset it to 25 seconds after setting it to 40. You see mistakes with the playclock like this often. Teams complain, the ref stops the clock and tells them to reset it to 25 seconds, the game goes on.

But if it was a malfunction, then a few times every year you'll see the refs announce they're stopping using the playclock because it isn't working properly. Again, the key there is that someone has to see the error, and if the refs don't, the coaches could've immediately pointed out it was at 25 instead of 40.

The key part of that we didn't see last night was neither the refs nor the moronic team in blue noticed it was reset to 25. But, similarly, just like they do things like ice their own kicker, botch when to use timeouts, and run the ball 7 times when the opponent can't stop the run, coaching at the NFL level is way over the heads of our coaching staff. A clock conscious team like say, the way Indy used to be, would've pointed it out to the refs immediately.

I was going to continue the discussion until I read the bolded part above and realized that it was not worth arguing with someone who actually believes that nonsense. that has got to be the dumbest agenda driven statement of the Garrett era to date.
 

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That's what happens when your head coach has to be the play caller. Doesn't have time. Besides, I don't even think the refs knew what was going on.

This.

The HC was not plugged into the situation.

This is where we see what you imply.

As the games mean more and the pace increases..

..Garrett is learning he needs MORE help..

I understand it.
 
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