Why I stopped caring about Player Contracts

DandyDon52

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Hah...you don;t maybe. Coo!.

But you have to deal with others HERE..that hate players for their contract. So...let's dig graves!
It is ok to love, like , dislike or hate players for whatever reasons a fan might have.
I dont know why some that say love dak are bothered by players that hate him. If I hate dak, it doesnt bother me that someone else
might love him.
To love all cowboy players, simply because they play for the cowboys currently , is a little odd.
 

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That's so anti American and completely communist. If the owners couldn't afford it they wouldn't pay it. Jerry Jones has made 5 billion in just the value of his team not including the 100's of millions he takes in every single year. You're literally saying "The guys who do all the work and destroy their brains shouldn't get their fair share and one multi billionaire should get to keep it all. That's communism. I hate how people are against athletes getting their percentage of the revenue. So bizarre to me
That’s not communism and communism is not “anti-American.” In fact, a model where the guys who do all the work and destroy their brains getting their fair share is closer to communism than what you describe. Athletes as the workers certainly deserve their fair share over the owners that control the means of production.
 

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That’s not communism and communism is not “anti-American.” In fact, a model where the guys who do all the work and destroy their brains getting their fair share is closer to communism than what you describe. Athletes as the workers certainly deserve their fair share over the owners that control the means of production.
I hear you but I'll never understand why people think the workers shouldn't get their share. They are essentially saying, "Even though Jerry Jones has made 5 billion dollars just on the value of the team along with 100's of millions ever year... I think he should get even more and the players doing the work shouldn't get so much." It's crazy to me
 

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Well, the Cowboys let Wilson walk because he was extremely overpaid by the Dolphins. Didn't have anything to do with Dak's deal.
I know of Laurent Robinson, I feel like there was another one who was overpaid because he put up big numbers in our system. Teams need to stop doing that, but you know they regretted not keeping him. We could have used him in place of gallup. It wasn't that big of a contract.
 

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Fans shouldn’t care what players make but should care how the team allocates resources. Considering those two go hand in hand, it’s hard not to care what players make. Salary cap era is all about giving the right guys the right contracts.
 

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Just so we are clear, the Cowboys basically ignore free agency every year because of their salary situation. That's how they are able to manage overpaying their people. As a result, Dallas will be counting on draft picks and vet min guys to fill out their regular rotation of players.

It matters.
Honestly FA is over rated and the early signings are usually over paid. Most FA are shell of their former selves or guys that could be rising but never seem to get beyond slightly above average. The middling FA are preferable they are less talented but seem to produce closer to their salaries and usually only sign 1-2 year deals so its easy to move on.
 

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they would have still owed zeke for 2 years though , probably not much since it was the rookie deal. I think he was making around 5 mil a year.
But jones boys dont like paying for nothing so they extended him and gave him a big raise.
But I agree, that was the time to start looking to dump zeke, possibly trade him and get some type of draft pick , and unload him.
He still had value at that point in time.
It was the perfect time to trade him when he wanted that extension. 3 years in, he was still considered a top 5 back at the time and there wasnt a drop off. We had Pollard. Probably could have gotten a first or 2nd for him. And he was still had 2 years left on his rookie deal for the new team.
 

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It was the perfect time to trade him when he wanted that extension. 3 years in, he was still considered a top 5 back at the time and there wasnt a drop off. We had Pollard. Probably could have gotten a first or 2nd for him. And he was still had 2 years left on his rookie deal for the new team.
yes it was but jones boys decided to make him highest paid rb ever!!
 

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Think about how dumb that was? And people want to blame the QB. Hilarious stuff.
Plenty of blame to go around on this team and certainly those two shoulder some. How much is up to each person to decide and as we all know too well it isn’t something we are going to agree on.
 

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The Cowboys have proven that they can keep who they want to keep by restructuring deals, and extending contracts. Then, if a player stops playing to his contract, they have enough flexibility to cut him (see Zeke Elliott) and absorb the CAP hit. I used to keep a huge spread sheet tracking each player salary, and CAP hits by year. But the money has gotten crazy with the new TV contracts, so it doesn't really matter anymore. Is Jalen Hurts worth 2-1/2 times Peyton Manning when he joined Denver in 2013? Just 10 years ago? Of course not. But it doesn't matter.

The Cowboys pay a staff of accountants to strategize on CAP management. So, since the money is ridiculous, and since the Cowboys can keep whomever they want to keep, why do fans need to care at all? Of course Dak isn't worth $40M/ year. But Diggs isn't worth $20M/year either. It's not my money. And the salaries are ridiculous. I've stopped caring. It's all click bait to me, and I'm not going to bite.
So you are saying that unless they start making all of us pay those ridiculous contracts, we should just watch the games and leave the $ side of things to the accountants and owners?
 

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Think about how dumb that was? And people want to blame the QB. Hilarious stuff.
It was 3 stooges bizzarro dumb.
I blame dak for when he plays poorly, like off target passes, not running when it is open etc,but both him and romo
have had the albatross of the 2 stooges, aka the jones boys, and the bad coaches they have hired , hanging around their necks.

The jones boys have gotten better over the 28 years, but they still meddle too much and make key decisions that keep the team
from reaching the next level.
 

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Right, a few harp on Zeke's contract, when Dak's is much worse.
But we are talking agendas and narratives there. :popcorn:

Zeke did not live up to his contract, and playing injured with a handicap at OC did not help. Dak certainly did not live up to his contract either. We will see if he does with a 30% change in offense.
Hopefully a better OL as well.
I do understand and agree, it was best to move on from Zeke. But if Dak repeats from last year, they should follow up on that as well.
Cedric wilson was a 4mill hit last year...neither Zeke nor Dak's contract stopped him...The FO thought they had better options at better values...Like the DT situation backup QB situation on and on and on we literally have 20+ years of proof that if they want a player they get them.
 

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That still doesn’t make it a great idea. I realize that you either pay them or let them walk. But sometimes you have to make the hard decision.

The Ravens did it right, in my opinion, with Lamar Jackson. Teams are not beating down the door to sign Jackson away from the Ravens.

Of course, next season the Ravens would be paying 20 percent more for the same situation next year. So that’s going to become a factor. But the Ravens get a price break this year.

The injury risk also falls on the player more than the team on the tag. If Jackson suffers a career ending injury this year, he has cost himself a mountain of money.
They are in bad situation. Star QB without a contract lined up days going into the draft. Not ideal.

And they are growing a reputation for being a team that lets any slightly disgruntled player force their way out of town.
 

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They are in bad situation. Star QB without a contract lined up days going into the draft. Not ideal.

And they are growing a reputation for being a team that lets any slightly disgruntled player force their way out of town.
Uncertainty can be your friend. It can be an opportunity. You just really never know.

In my opinion, uncertainty is better than a Hail Mary shot taken by over paying average QB talent hoping that the rest of the team can carry a team’s average talented QB.
 

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The Cowboys have proven that they can keep who they want to keep by restructuring deals, and extending contracts. Then, if a player stops playing to his contract, they have enough flexibility to cut him (see Zeke Elliott) and absorb the CAP hit. I used to keep a huge spread sheet tracking each player salary, and CAP hits by year. But the money has gotten crazy with the new TV contracts, so it doesn't really matter anymore. Is Jalen Hurts worth 2-1/2 times Peyton Manning when he joined Denver in 2013? Just 10 years ago? Of course not. But it doesn't matter.

The Cowboys pay a staff of accountants to strategize on CAP management. So, since the money is ridiculous, and since the Cowboys can keep whomever they want to keep, why do fans need to care at all? Of course Dak isn't worth $40M/ year. But Diggs isn't worth $20M/year either. It's not my money. And the salaries are ridiculous. I've stopped caring. It's all click bait to me, and I'm not going to bite.
1. It has absolutely nothing to do w/ it being your money. That doesn't even make sense.
2. It matters when you can't protect your QB/open holes for the RB because your backups are crapp because you overpaid your starters.
 
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