Why I stopped caring about Player Contracts

[Verdict]

That isn't how QB's get paid. The next one always gets more than the last one. Been that way for years. Lamar, Burrow, Herbert will be next.

That still doesn’t make it a great idea. I realize that you either pay them or let them walk. But sometimes you have to make the hard decision.

The Ravens did it right, in my opinion, with Lamar Jackson. Teams are not beating down the door to sign Jackson away from the Ravens.

Of course, next season the Ravens would be paying 20 percent more for the same situation next year. So that’s going to become a factor. But the Ravens get a price break this year.

The injury risk also falls on the player more than the team on the tag. If Jackson suffers a career ending injury this year, he has cost himself a mountain of money.

 

[NotForLong]

When your team hands out bad contracts like candy just pretend it doesn't matter.

 

[sunalsorises]

That's not how it works though lol. The more money the superstars make the more money the practice squad guys make which means more money or the union and its players. What you're saying doesn't make sense...you want superstars to make less and practice squad to make more?

There is a finite amount of money all of the players split as dictated by revenue sharing and the salary cap. If superstars are paid more of that money there is less for the rest of the players.

If I were a practice squad player, for example, I would want more of that finite amount of money to be shared with me. This is what I would want my union to do for me. The union is supposed to represent everyone equally.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

There is a finite amount of money all of the players split as dictated by revenue sharing and the salary cap. If superstars are paid more of that money there is less for the rest of the players.

If I were a practice squad player, for example, I would want more of that finite amount of money to be shared with me. This is what I would want my union to do for me. The union is supposed to represent everyone equally.

They do though. A practice Squad guy isn't saying man I want my money maximized... a practice squad guy thinks he can one day be the next Romo or the next Miles Austin and get a max deal.

Every year the salary cap goes up? Practice squad guys make more money and have been.

The first group is set to be paid $9,200 a week in 2020. This is up from $8,400 a week in 2020 and will continue to rise on a yearly basis through the duration of the NFL and NFLPA's CBA deal in 2030.

Below are the weekly salaries of players with two or fewer accrued seasons through 2030.

Year	Weekly salary
2021	$9,200
2022	$11,500
2023	$12,000
2024	$12,500
2025	$13,000
2026	$13,750
2027	$14,500
2028	$15,250
2029	$16,000
2030	$16,750

Its literally going up every year until 2030 lol.

 

[shabazz]

Have you finally realized that Dallas' front office isn't based on end results?

And you're right about the Hurts contract - he isn't worth that much money, but at least he reached a super bowl before getting the deal. What was on Dak's resume before he got paid? Regular season stats?

………don’t forget the community outreach

 

[big dog cowboy]

I'm sure we wanted to keep Cedric Wilson last year but couldn't because of Dak's contract.

Well, the Cowboys let Wilson walk because he was extremely overpaid by the Dolphins. Didn't have anything to do with Dak's deal.

 

[sunalsorises]

They do though. A practice Squad guy isn't saying man I want my money maximized... a practice squad guy thinks he can one day be the next Romo or the next Miles Austin and get a max deal.

Every year the salary cap goes up? Practice squad guys make more money and have been.

The first group is set to be paid $9,200 a week in 2020. This is up from $8,400 a week in 2020 and will continue to rise on a yearly basis through the duration of the NFL and NFLPA's CBA deal in 2030.

Below are the weekly salaries of players with two or fewer accrued seasons through 2030.

Year	Weekly salary
2021	$9,200
2022	$11,500
2023	$12,000
2024	$12,500
2025	$13,000
2026	$13,750
2027	$14,500
2028	$15,250
2029	$16,000
2030	$16,750

It’s literally going up every year until 2030 lol.

This is a list for the minimum salary for a practice squad player each year. Technically, practice squad players can be paid more but it is sort of a take it or leave it kind of a job so maybe not the best representation of my point.

I guess I’m not making my point well. I’m used to unions negotiating salaries for all levels of employees. It seems if the NFL player’s union did this it would maximize salaries for more players instead of a few.

 

[SuperBowlz]

TJ Edwards was another really good player they lost in FA. I was hoping we'd let Poodle Hunter walk and replace him with Edwards.

Dude was a baller but the Eagles value LBer about as much as they value water boys.

 

[acr731]

That isn't how QB's get paid. The next one always gets more than the last one. Been that way for years. Lamar, Burrow, Herbert will be next.

Good for Rush.... when can he expect his big bonus since this is what all QB's get?

 

[big dog cowboy]

Good for Rush.... when can he expect his big bonus since this is what all QB's get?

He is a backup.

 

[SuperBowlz]

Here is one guy hoping at some point the owners lock the players out and put them in their place until these salaries get back to something reasonable. Its just ridiculous at this point.

That's so anti American and completely communist. If the owners couldn't afford it they wouldn't pay it. Jerry Jones has made 5 billion in just the value of his team not including the 100's of millions he takes in every single year. You're literally saying "The guys who do all the work and destroy their brains shouldn't get their fair share and one multi billionaire should get to keep it all. That's communism. I hate how people are against athletes getting their percentage of the revenue. So bizarre to me

 

[Hoofbite]

The Cowboys have proven that they can keep who they want to keep by restructuring deals, and extending contracts. Then, if a player stops playing to his contract, they have enough flexibility to cut him (see Zeke Elliott) and absorb the CAP hit. I used to keep a huge spread sheet tracking each player salary, and CAP hits by year. But the money has gotten crazy with the new TV contracts, so it doesn't really matter anymore. Is Jalen Hurts worth 2-1/2 times Peyton Manning when he joined Denver in 2013? Just 10 years ago? Of course not. But it doesn't matter.

The Cowboys pay a staff of accountants to strategize on CAP management. So, since the money is ridiculous, and since the Cowboys can keep whomever they want to keep, why do fans need to care at all? Of course Dak isn't worth $40M/ year. But Diggs isn't worth $20M/year either. It's not my money. And the salaries are ridiculous. I've stopped caring. It's all click bait to me, and I'm not going to bite.

"They can keep who they want" is such a lame statement. First and foremost, it's so self-serving it makes me want to puke.

• Dallas keeps a player? They must have wanted to keep them.
• Dallas cuts a player? Well I guess they didn't want to keep them.

What team doesn't have this sort of cap management advantage? How are GMs ever fired with a win-win situation where they never make the wrong decision?

If the outcome determines the intent, something is wrong. No different than when someone makes an off-color statement and then reads the room to determine whether or not to follow-up with, "I was just joking".

The reality is, the playing field is equal for all teams in terms of the cap. Some handle it better than others. Can Dallas technically "keep who they want"? Sure, so can every other team. The difference is teams that manage the cap appropriately do just that and also acquire the talent they want in free agency or via trade, which is more or less something Dallas hasn't done in years. From a more practical perspective, Dallas wanted to keep DeMarcus Ware. Took it to the deadline and then cut him after he refused to take less money. But, I guess they just didn't want to keep him? The team hung onto Brandon Carr for a year or two longer than they should have due to restructuring...so I guess they wanted to have a high cap charge for minimal production? Makes sense because every team looks for that opportunity.

Want something a little more recent? How'd Randy Gregory turn out? Certainly wanted to keep him...I think, I mean they agreed to a deal and then he ended up in Denver. So didn't want to keep him? I'm losing track here.

"They can keep who they want" might as well be saying "they can maintain mediocrity". Not a great endorsement.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That's so anti American and completely communist. If the owners couldn't afford it they wouldn't pay it. Jerry Jones has made 5 billion in just the value of his team not including the 100's of millions he takes in every single year. You're literally saying "The guys who do all the work and destroy their brains shouldn't get their fair share and one multi billionaire should get to keep it all. That's communism. I hate how people are against athletes getting their percentage of the revenue. So bizarre to me

Oh no, the owners are completely at fault for all of it. But its about time they took back the league. No sense in letting the inmates run the asylum.

Players do all the work? Thats laughable. They do much of nothing all year, then show up on Sundays 17 weeks a year and play a kids sport. Owners have built the league the promotion and taken all the risks in the sport since the beginning. Risking everything to get the sport where it is.

 

[MyFairLady]

Ignorance is bliss.

 

[buybuydandavis]

The Cowboys have proven that they can keep who they want to keep by restructuring deals, and extending contracts. Then, if a player stops playing to his contract, they have enough flexibility to cut him (see Zeke Elliott) and absorb the CAP hit. I used to keep a huge spread sheet tracking each player salary, and CAP hits by year. But the money has gotten crazy with the new TV contracts, so it doesn't really matter anymore. Is Jalen Hurts worth 2-1/2 times Peyton Manning when he joined Denver in 2013? Just 10 years ago? Of course not. But it doesn't matter.

The Cowboys pay a staff of accountants to strategize on CAP management. So, since the money is ridiculous, and since the Cowboys can keep whomever they want to keep, why do fans need to care at all? Of course Dak isn't worth $40M/ year. But Diggs isn't worth $20M/year either. It's not my money. And the salaries are ridiculous. I've stopped caring. It's all click bait to me, and I'm not going to bite.

The cap is the fundamental competitive constraint facing a team in the NFL.
Particularly the most valuable franchise in the league.

 

[DandyDon52]

What are you talking about. That's 5 starters leaving one team! Starters aren't JAGs. Sticking with just the Eagles two of their best players in this years playoff run were signed as free agents. Hargrave and Reddick were absolutely huge for them. You don't think either of them would have helped Dallas and you think they were past their prime when they both basically played at an All Pro level? And Bradberry was also a great player for them last year. Bradberry was 28 when they signed him. Hargrave was 27 when they signed him Reddick was 27 when they signed him.

No one is saying do more than fill gaps with free agents or t build an entire roster that way. I'm not sure what you are reading.

AJ Brown had a big impact as well.

 

[DandyDon52]

Not me, I choose to spend time crunching the numbers on caps instead of actually watching them play.

Not only do I not give a damn about contracts or caps, I wish they'd never allowed all of this to be made public, what good does it do except have fans place their own value on players based on what they make.

At one time, I was told it was nobody's business what somebody else makes but this sick country is all about the greenbacks, they are truly obsessed with it.

I agree, they should keep all the pay secret, but goodell and owners must feel it adds to the lure of the nfl .
Just like the celebrations I am sick of, the nfl and goodell actually encourage that.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Well I’m all about talk I’m not drawing no damn lines in the sand. I don’t need no stinking badges

Hah...you don;t maybe. Coo!.

But you have to deal with others HERE..that hate players for their contract. So...let's dig graves!

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

That’s fine. I didn’t mention anything about anyone hating him

That's fine. I didnt; say you did.

 

[DandyDon52]

Just told you. 60-40 or 70-30. Zeke would have been cut long ago and not resigned.

Probably would have started out 50/50 his rookie year. Would have let Zeke hold out in Cabo Pollard rookie year and featured him while Zeke held out. Would have drafted another young back to team with Pollard.

they would have still owed zeke for 2 years though , probably not much since it was the rookie deal. I think he was making around 5 mil a year.
But jones boys dont like paying for nothing so they extended him and gave him a big raise.
But I agree, that was the time to start looking to dump zeke, possibly trade him and get some type of draft pick , and unload him.
He still had value at that point in time.