Why is Dallas always expected to set the market?

[Reid1boys]

Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.

 

[baltcowboy]

Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.

Jefferson and Lamb are much closer than you believe. It’s very close. Similar offenses over the years and team records. Jefferson has the great break away speed and is taller but it’s even everywhere else.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

We have signed plenty of players early. That got criticized too.

 

[Adreme]

Whoever’s turn it is sets the market. Even Kyler Murray was highest paid fairly recently, as was Watson. Whenever a top 10 player at their position is about to get paid they get the new highest deal and sometimes for QBs not even top 10.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.

It's not a "Cowboys" thing.

Eagles literally just made AJ Brown the highest paid receiver in the league....why? Because they wanted to get out in front. They offered him a deal he couldn't refuse. This is how you handle contracts. You don't wait to the last minute you offer a deal they can't refuse and reward them as soon as possible.

Let's stop pretending this is a "Cowboys thing". This is what happens when you have generational talent. You have to overpay to keep it. Has nothing to do with being a "Cowboy".

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

We have signed plenty of players early. That got criticized too.

Exactly....got Jaylon Smith, La'El Collins, Terrence Steele, Tyrone Crawford done early......Crawford overstayed his welcome but Collins and Smith didn't even finish their deal and I suspect Steele won't either.

 

[Reid1boys]

Jefferson and Lamb are much closer than you believe. It’s very close. Similar offenses over the years and team records. Jefferson has the great break away speed and is taller but it’s even everywhere else.

IM not saying they arent close, Im not saying Lamb isnt a top WR... but how many people in here were doubting if Lamb was even a number 1? Then last year he put up a MONSTER year, but he wasnt a top 5 in many people's mind sin this very forum prior to last year.

My point is simply asking why is it that Dallas is expected to always sign their guys to top deals? Lamb is damn talented and deserves a top contract, but not THE top contract. Same with Dak, he deserves top 5 QB pay, but not TOP qb pay.

 

[Reid1boys]

It's not a "Cowboys" thing.

Eagles literally just made AJ Brown the highest paid receiver in the league....why? Because they wanted to get out in front. They offered him a deal he couldn't refuse. This is how you handle contracts. You don't wait to the last minute you offer a deal they can't refuse and reward them as soon as possible.

Let's stop pretending this is a "Cowboys thing". This is what happens when you have generational talent. You have to overpay to keep it. Has nothing to do with being a "Cowboy".

BS it doesnt have to do with being a Cowboy. How do you know what Jerry has offered? CeeDee was never signing a deal before Jefferson... EVER. They have the same agent and the agent knew it was in Lamb's best interest to sign after JJ. So stop making it like it is all stupidity on the Cowboys part. Stephen even came straight out and said as much about the agent a month ago in one of the press conferences around draft time.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

The owners have got to stop this “next guy to get paid always sets the market” trend.

It’s gone too far for too long.

There is no universe where anyone should be making more than Mahomes as a QB or Jefferson as WR or Aaron Donald at a DT when he was playing.

It’s nonsense.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

BS it doesnt have to do with being a Cowboy. How do you know what Jerry has offered? CeeDee was never signing a deal before Jefferson... EVER. They have the same agent and the agent knew it was in Lamb's best interest to sign after JJ. So stop making it like it is all stupidity on the Cowboys part. Stephen even came straight out and said as much about the agent a month ago in one of the press conferences around draft time.

What? When did I say it was stupid on the Cowboys part? I'm arguing the complete opposite lol. The only way a deal was going to get done was to massively overpay. That's how deals get done early. It's just a fact.

You're pretending like no one sets the market but Cowboys players....AJ Brown literally just set the market and he's already not the highest paid receiver.

And don't tell me anything Stephen said because if you believe anything that comes out of his mouth or his dad's mouth you're lost.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The owners have got to stop this “next guy to get paid always sets the market” trend.

It’s gone too far for too long.

There is no universe where anyone should be making more than Mahomes as a QB or Jefferson as WR or Aaron Donald at a DT when he was playing.

It’s nonsense.

Its business. The NFL can't generate billions and those billions don't go into players costs......

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

IM not saying they arent close, Im not saying Lamb isnt a top WR... but how many people in here were doubting if Lamb was even a number 1? Then last year he put up a MONSTER year, but he wasnt a top 5 in many people's mind sin this very forum prior to last year.

My point is simply asking why is it that Dallas is expected to always sign their guys to top deals? Lamb is damn talented and deserves a top contract, but not THE top contract. Same with Dak, he deserves top 5 QB pay, but not TOP qb pay.

It's just not how the NFL works. You can be upset about the process. But as of right now when it comes to Sports guys are paid on who's next in line. It's why you try and get deals done first and you don't wait.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Its business. The NFL can't generate billions and those billions don't go into players costs......

Do the NBA model.

Have max contracts that require players to reach prerequisites to qualify.

Or figure out a max percentage of cap allotted to each position and you can’t pay a player more than that predetermined amount of cap space for their position.

The “next man up” model has got to stop.

 

[Diehardblues]

Fans get too wrapped up in new Market Price contracts coinciding with best at their position. If your a top 5 guy you are liable to become the top paid until the next top 5 guy or next season. Sometimes the best player is the highest paid but only until the next top 5 players contract is due.

Thats how Dak could be top paid which would probably only last one season. This is the nature of business in the NFL.

Most figured Lambs deal would be at least 30+ mil per. And that’s what it will likely. Being that he is likely to be signed in same season I wouldn’t expect it to be more than Jefferson but probably close.

And if a top 5 players contract comes up next year it will probably surpass this years big deals. Again, that’s Market Price. Not a pecking order of talent level.

 

[Diehardblues]

It's just not how the NFL works. You can be upset about the process. But as of right now when it comes to Sports guys are paid on who's next in line. It's why you try and get deals done first and you don't wait.

Bingo!!!

This is exactly it…..

 

[KingCorcoran]

IM not saying they arent close, Im not saying Lamb isnt a top WR... but how many people in here were doubting if Lamb was even a number 1? Then last year he put up a MONSTER year, but he wasnt a top 5 in many people's mind sin this very forum prior to last year.

My point is simply asking why is it that Dallas is expected to always sign their guys to top deals? Lamb is damn talented and deserves a top contract, but not THE top contract. Same with Dak, he deserves top 5 QB pay, but not TOP qb pay.

It’s not only about talent, or deserves, or signing with the Cowboys. Timing is critical as is a player’s prior association with the team. An NFL team drafts a guy, he develops into a star, when it’s time for him to sign a subsequent contract the fact that he’s already part of your team gives him added value. And value is also set by what other teams are willing to pay. If the Cowboys seem to pay top of market contracts to players it’s because they wait until other teams have signed players and now the timing piece heavily favors their player they’re trying to sign. In a very real sense, if you’re not aggressively re-signing your guys their price is going to be determined by other teams. The Eagles’ Brown was the highest paid receiver for a week. In a few weeks he won’t be in the top five. The new wave of quarterback signings in the next 18 months will knock Hurts out of the top ten quarterbacks in total compensation. His current contract only became effective two months ago. Niners locked up Deebo to a deal (thru 2025) that looks “team friendly” now. Texans threw down big money for Collins which will be regarded as downright reasonable soon. Meanwhile, Jerry is watching leaves fall.

 

[John813]

GM's want to retain their star player.
With restructuring GM's can juggle having large AAV contracts for years.
No GM wants to lose their player over 2-3 mill per year when they can have years 1-3 be dirt cheap cap hits.
The salary cap also shoots up yearly at a healthy amount.

It's a NFL problem, but not much they can do till the next CBA/if they even care to die on that hill.

Nick Bosa reset the Edge market and this or next year Parsons will reset it. The next stud edge will then reset that mark, even if in a vacuum he's isn't as good as Bosa/Parsons.

 

[charron]

Because they typically overpay their own.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Do the NBA model.

Have max contracts that require players to reach prerequisites to qualify.

Or figure out a max percentage of cap allotted to each position and you can’t pay a player more than that predetermined amount of cap space for their position.

The “next man up” model has got to stop.

Have you seen the NBA? Jokic gets paid 46 million a year. Bradley Beal gets 40 million…..Tobias Harris gets 39 million…..

They have their own issues lol.

 

[baltcowboy]

IM not saying they arent close, Im not saying Lamb isnt a top WR... but how many people in here were doubting if Lamb was even a number 1? Then last year he put up a MONSTER year, but he wasnt a top 5 in many people's mind sin this very forum prior to last year.

My point is simply asking why is it that Dallas is expected to always sign their guys to top deals? Lamb is damn talented and deserves a top contract, but not THE top contract. Same with Dak, he deserves top 5 QB pay, but not TOP qb pay.

CeeDee proved he was a number 1 two years ago when he was a second team all pro and had over 100 catches. To answer your question, remember Stephen when Dak, Zeke, and Jaylon were headed into their third season. Cooper was about to become a free agent. The front office thinks the Cowboys brand means everything and players should take pay cuts to be Cowboys like Tyron. The team is behind the times.