Why is Dallas always expected to set the market?

[stinkface]

Those setting the market days are long gone. We now react. Like when Mike Tyson throws a punch and you lean into it and wonder what happened.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The highest paid guard, forward, and center AT THE TIME OF THEIR SIGNING I should’ve said. No NBA has ever had to do that.

Why’s everything have to be dumbed down for you?

You consider yourself dumbing yourself down by explaining what you meant clearly?

 

[Coogiguy03]

Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.

Love this post! Micah will get the biggest deal I don't know why trust me, everyone I think is still caught on his first season

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

You consider yourself dumbing yourself down by explaining what you meant clearly?

I'll try my best to remember from now on to explain everything in intense detail so you might understand it better.

I didn't think I had to dumb it down THAT much, but that's my bad on this one.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I'll try my best to remember from now on to explain everything in intense detail so you might understand it better.

I didn't think I had to dumb it down THAT much, but that's my bad on this one.

What’s funny is you didn’t really dumb it down you were wrong before and after the dumb down lol.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

What’s funny is you didn’t really dumb it down you were wrong before and after the dumb down lol.

Again, my bad.

I sometimes forget who I'm talking to. That's on me.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Again, my bad.

I sometimes forget who I'm talking to. That's on me.

You shouldn't forget. As you can see no one cared enough about your post to clarify but me. You should be happy I engaged with you lol.

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.

It's not just Dallas. Every team in the league is pretty much expected to pay at or over top of market compensation for a top-5 player at their position.

This is just the way NFL player compensation works. Complaining about it doesn't do anything.

This is why when you know you have a bonafide great player on a rookie deal, you should try to get them under a long term contract as soon as possible. Waiting only drives the price tag higher. Micah should have been signed this offseason or even the offseason prior, and Lamb's deal should be an absolute no brainer to get done now. Our front office is constantly a day late and a dollar short. It is time they start being proactive.

 

[John813]

I don't get the basketball example.

Basketball is composed of 15 man rosters. Varying cap structures, bird rights, level 1/2 tax brackets and fully guaranteed deals.
Football is a 53 man roster, hard cap + individual rollover cap space + non guaranteed deals + restructuring.
Not to mention the contracts for Dak, Parsons and CDL won't be all the same amounts.

Anyways, the Phoenix Suns have Devin Booker, Durant and Beal all signed to max contracts, varying amounts due to how the NBA structures max contracts.

Durant at 51.17mil, Beal at 50mil and Booker at 49.3mil.

 

[Sydla]

We have signed plenty of players early. That got criticized too.

Because they outsmarted themselves.

Guys they signed early were guys like Crawford and Jaylon Smith. Those guys had one good year and the Cowboys rushed to sign them early thinking that if they waited, they would get way too expensive. But they miscalculated on both.

Maybe their slowness on a guy like Lamb is because they took it on the chin with guys like Smith and Crawford in the past.

 

[Sully]

Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.

I have said for months now to trade Parsons and Lamb. Why get involved in these setting the next record breaking contracts. Lambs numbers will go down.
You can't expect his numbers to be at that level and still could NOT even get to a NFC Conference game, let alone a Superbowl. But Parson and Lamb both sure want to be PAID like they won a Superbowl.

Trade them both --as the Chiefs did with T Hill to Miami. Kansas City didn't want to pay Hill/Mahomes/Jones and Kelce these record deals so someone was traded away and that was Hill. KC got back: (1) Cap space. Avoiding to pay Hill (2) multiple HIGH draft picks. And Miami didn't get to a conference finals with HIll. Rather have 2-3 good players than one superstar that demands record breaking contracts. Same goes with Parsons. Sorry but let some other team pay it

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Because they outsmarted themselves.

Guys they signed early were guys like Crawford and Jaylon Smith. Those guys had one good year and the Cowboys rushed to sign them early thinking that if they waited, they would get way too expensive. But they miscalculated on both.

Maybe their slowness on a guy like Lamb is because they took it on the chin with guys like Smith and Crawford in the past.

Sure and so were Steele, Collins and others.

I think it funny that what amounted to a 20% overpay for Crawford was scapegoated for all the Garrett years.

Smith was fool's gold. He made a pro bowl. Even as an alternate that is better than average. He then took a nose dive in performance.

Collins played well but was a head case.

Steele and Gallup got hurt after playing well.

I don't see what difference any of that makes. No matter what the team does there will be someone criticizing it.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.

The irony is that all these guys make more money bc they are cowboys and therefore more visible. I will never understand how Jerry and son have never figured out a way to monetize that visibility and off the field money opportunites and convince guys to sign for less than full market value. Dak literally makes 50M off the field in endorsements bc he's the qb of the dallas cowboys.

 

[RonnieT24]

Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.

If this is true why is he 0-3 head to head while Lamb is 3-0? Okay okay yes I'm being facetious but people bring up that stupid head to head argument all time time and it even looks stupid when someone as brilliant as I type it! LMAO! The simple answer to your question about why the Cowboys are always expected to set the market. There are two very simple and obvious reasons for this. The Cowboys are the richest franchise in the game and thanks their ridiculous popularity their players carry the highest possible profile. Any star player on the Cowboys is almost instantly equated with the best at their position which equates to needs to be the highest paid at their position. Not saying it's right or wrong.. It just is..

 

[plymkr]

Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.

I agree completely. It’s ridiculous our players feel entitled to set the market but it’s more indicative of how bad Jerry is at running the team.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. If our players want to make history with their salaries they first have to make history with their play on the field. Jerry sucks as a GM and doesn’t see it that way.

 

[kskboys]

Because they outsmarted themselves.

Guys they signed early were guys like Crawford and Jaylon Smith. Those guys had one good year and the Cowboys rushed to sign them early thinking that if they waited, they would get way too expensive. But they miscalculated on both.

Maybe their slowness on a guy like Lamb is because they took it on the chin with guys like Smith and Crawford in the past.

Quite possible. They are dumb like that.

 

[kskboys]

If this is true why is he 0-3 head to head while Lamb is 3-0? Okay okay yes I'm being facetious but people bring up that stupid head to head argument all time time and it even looks stupid when someone as brilliant as I type it! LMAO! The simple answer to your question about why the Cowboys are always expected to set the market. There are two very simple and obvious reasons for this. The Cowboys are the richest franchise in the game and thanks their ridiculous popularity their players carry the highest possible profile. Any star player on the Cowboys is almost instantly equated with the best at their position which equates to needs to be the highest paid at their position. Not saying it's right or wrong.. It just is..

And we have a very dumb GM.

 

[Reid1boys]

If this is true why is he 0-3 head to head while Lamb is 3-0? Okay okay yes I'm being facetious but people bring up that stupid head to head argument all time time and it even looks stupid when someone as brilliant as I type it! LMAO! The simple answer to your question about why the Cowboys are always expected to set the market. There are two very simple and obvious reasons for this. The Cowboys are the richest franchise in the game and thanks their ridiculous popularity their players carry the highest possible profile. Any star player on the Cowboys is almost instantly equated with the best at their position which equates to needs to be the highest paid at their position. Not saying it's right or wrong.. It just is..

This is exactly what it is. This is how we always seem to have as many "Pro Bowlers," as anyone. This also helps our players get paid in free agency..... Tyler B anyone?

 

[Reid1boys]

The irony is that all these guys make more money bc they are cowboys and therefore more visible. I will never understand how Jerry and son have never figured out a way to monetize that visibility and off the field money opportunites and convince guys to sign for less than full market value. Dak literally makes 50M off the field in endorsements bc he's the qb of the dallas cowboys.

yep, but these guys have agents that have far more sway with the plyers than Jerry could ever have. BUT, I have said I would play hardball with Dak and point blank say that. Hey Dak, go play for the Vikings and see how many places will still pay you big bucks to endorse their products.

 

[Reid1boys]

I have said for months now to trade Parsons and Lamb. Why get involved in these setting the next record breaking contracts. Lambs numbers will go down.
You can't expect his numbers to be at that level and still could NOT even get to a NFC Conference game, let alone a Superbowl. But Parson and Lamb both sure want to be PAID like they won a Superbowl.

Trade them both --as the Chiefs did with T Hill to Miami. Kansas City didn't want to pay Hill/Mahomes/Jones and Kelce these record deals so someone was traded away and that was Hill. KC got back: (1) Cap space. Avoiding to pay Hill (2) multiple HIGH draft picks. And Miami didn't get to a conference finals with HIll. Rather have 2-3 good players than one superstar that demands record breaking contracts. Same goes with Parsons. Sorry but let some other team pay it

you can not be serious? Of course the Chiefs could let Hill go. They have Mahomes. The "Patriot way," now works in KC because of who the QB is. The Patriot way doesnt work in Pats land anymore because they have crap at QB.

So while that strategy sounds and looks great on paper, it doesnt work if you dont have the right qb.