Why is Dallas always expected to set the market?

CowboyFrog

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The owners have got to stop this “next guy to get paid always sets the market” trend.

It’s gone too far for too long.

There is no universe where anyone should be making more than Mahomes as a QB or Jefferson as WR or Aaron Donald at a DT when he was playing.

It’s nonsense.
do you like the price of fuel/food whatever in your area? Sure in theory you can set what your willing to pay to get something....but then the reality of not having it can also set it in ...you dont have to buy gas you do have to go to work sometimes these things to work with each other...
 

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What? When did I say it was stupid on the Cowboys part? I'm arguing the complete opposite lol. The only way a deal was going to get done was to massively overpay. That's how deals get done early. It's just a fact.

You're pretending like no one sets the market but Cowboys players....AJ Brown literally just set the market and he's already not the highest paid receiver.

And don't tell me anything Stephen said because if you believe anything that comes out of his mouth or his dad's mouth you're lost.
you are lost if you dont think the agent for Lamb and Jefferson wasnt playing the teams against each other. i dont need to hear stephen say it to know it was true.

And it is actually quit ethe opposite. The Cowboys tell you exactly what they are thinking and what they are going to do... people just dont listen.
 

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Have you seen the NBA? Jokic gets paid 46 million a year. Bradley Beal gets 40 million…..Tobias Harris gets 39 million…..

They have their own issues lol.
There is no NBA team that will ever have to worry about having 3 of the highest paid players ever on it like the Cowboys are right now.

The NBAs issues are nothing compared to the NFLs.
 

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CeeDee proved he was a number 1 two years ago when he was a second team all pro and had over 100 catches. To answer your question, remember Stephen when Dak, Zeke, and Jaylon were headed into their third season. Cooper was about to become a free agent. The front office thinks the Cowboys brand means everything and players should take pay cuts to be Cowboys like Tyron. The team is behind the times.
Really? Did Martin take a pay cut or team friendly deal? Had dak done a team friendly deal? Is Lamb going to do a team friendly deal?
 

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The owners have got to stop this “next guy to get paid always sets the market” trend.

It’s gone too far for too long.

There is no universe where anyone should be making more than Mahomes as a QB or Jefferson as WR or Aaron Donald at a DT when he was playing.

It’s nonsense.
totally agree, but it is up to some owners to play hard ball. Here Lamb, we think you are a 33 million guy. Weve tagged you, dont like this offer, play for 17 million. Or sit and get no year of service credit. You want to be the next Levean Bell?
 

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you are lost if you dont think the agent for Lamb and Jefferson wasnt playing the teams against each other. i dont need to hear stephen say it to know it was true.

And it is actually quit ethe opposite. The Cowboys tell you exactly what they are thinking and what they are going to do... people just dont listen.
Yeah they told us all in and how is that going?

You think their agents were playing teams against each other?
There is no NBA team that will ever have to worry about having 3 of the highest paid players ever on it like the Cowboys are right now.

The NBAs issues are nothing compared to the NFLs.
Booker = 36 million
Beal = 40 million
Durant = 47 million

Harden = 35 million
George = 45 million
Leonard = 45 million

Holiday 36
KP 36
Tatum 32
Brown 31

Jaylen Brown will jump to 49 million next year and 2 years from now make 61 million dollars lol.
 

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totally agree, but it is up to some owners to play hard ball. Here Lamb, we think you are a 33 million guy. Weve tagged you, dont like this offer, play for 17 million. Or sit and get no year of service credit. You want to be the next Levean Bell?
The reason why this won't work is because an owner is willing to get Lamb for an extra 2 million. They aren't going to miss out on a talent like Lamb for 2 million dollars. And then Jerry is left to ask himself would he want to lose Lamb because he doesn't want to pay him 35 but pay him 33?

The NFL can't keep making more and more money and expect the salary cap to not go up and then expect players salaries not to increase.
 

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The reason why this won't work is because an owner is willing to get Lamb for an extra 2 million. They aren't going to miss out on a talent like Lamb for 2 million dollars. And then Jerry is left to ask himself would he want to lose Lamb because he doesn't want to pay him 35 but pay him 33?

The NFL can't keep making more and more money and expect the salary cap to not go up and then expect players salaries not to increase.
who said salaries arent and wont go up? Dak signed a very good deal for him 3 or 4 short years ago at 40 million per. That is about to be 60 million per.
T HIll signed a 4 year 120 million dollar deal that was far and away the biggest for a WR at that point... 2 years later and we are looking at 35 million and up... i dsay contracts are going up at a pretty good pace. It is actually determined in the CBA. Players get X% of revenues... so contracts are and will go continue to go up. That doesnt mean individual owners need to cave to every player that signs a 4 year deal and then demands to redo the deal 2 years later.
 

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Jefferson is a more dominant player than CeeDee. Those throwing around their numbers since their rookie year need to notice how those numbers dont show games played. Is Lamb a top WR? Absolutely. Should he make the same as Jefferson or more? If so WHY? Because he is on the Cowboys?
Why is is that Jerry is always expected to surpass the highest deal? Micah is already been annointed by the media as going to get the highest non qb contract ever... why? Because he is on the Cowbosy.

There is ZERO reason Dak should be the highest paid qb, but we all know he is going to be. Why? Because he is on the Cowboys.

If jerry offered Dak 33 million per, a 4 year deal at 132 million with 100 million guaranteed, is that a fair offer? But yet we have people bashing Jerry for not having him signed already.
CeeDee was NOT EVER signing a deal before Jefferson..... EVER. They have the saem agent. Jefferson didnt need a lamb deal, Lamb needed a Jefferson deal.
No it's not show me how the numbers work it out to where he's more dominant?? where? literally the numbers almost match up and some of them are in favor of lamb, they should be paid about the same, not much more you're right it shouldn't be difficult contract but we're not expecting to set the market as of today the Vikings at the market and jamar chase is still sitting out there along with Brandon ayuk, Hill, and other players in that position coming up..​
they will not set the market the entire teams up next ebbs and flows on who sets the market, just like right now there's 10 quarterbacks that make more than Prescott...​
I mean you want to use today as an example like some of the other guys on here so you can bash the Cowboys front office but they're not doing anything anybody else isn't doing it is when it's due up is when you need to get it done and right now at wide receiver they might be the next one but how do you know Jamar chase doesn't get one before CD lamb and he resets the market literally this is going to go on it goes on all year every year it changes from team to team who's setting the market like I said there are ten teams that are paying their quarterback more money right now so we didn't set the market at quarterback but next time we pay our quarterback we might But Tuas sitting out there begging for more money..​

Simply our turn at one point I mean I don't see where you getting this I mean Todd Gurley set the market that's when zeke wanted to get a new deal it's just changes on a yearly basis it's whoever's up next and Sadie lamb seems to be the one next but there are other ones right there along with them I mean I don't see how you don't see this it just feels like that because we follow the Cowboys 24 hours a day seven days a week and don't realize that all teams go through this at every position that they have a mega star at... I mean right now pass rusher we're nowhere near paying our guy yet so we're not setting the market there either and I've seen some tackles and some offensive lineman and some inside defensive tackles that are all set to market before the Cowboys so why are we crying about this??

So please try to tell me we're all wrong when we're not,

the Dallas Cowboys are not continually set in the market they just at some point are due up to do so.. So if we pay lamb tomorrow ohh $600,000 more with another $1,000,000 more guaranteed,

yeah we set the market but guess what the other wide receivers are sitting out there also waiting,

so that teams going to set the market I mean how do I do we explain this in more simple terms this is not the Cowboys constantly setting the market because right now you can't even say that because our quarterback is 11 in actual contract value where his AV in cash money his dead cap hit sucks... But we are not setting the market all these other quarterbacks that were just paid and the receiver as of yesterday the Vikings own that moniker they set the market for quarterback we're just possibly up next..
 

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The reason why this won't work is because an owner is willing to get Lamb for an extra 2 million. They aren't going to miss out on a talent like Lamb for 2 million dollars. And then Jerry is left to ask himself would he want to lose Lamb because he doesn't want to pay him 35 but pay him 33?

The NFL can't keep making more and more money and expect the salary cap to not go up and then expect players salaries not to increase.
Is he gonna hold out for two years literally if he doesn't play this year he loses 17,000,000 and his ability to become a free agent I believe I believe you don't even have to franchise him next year if he sits out the entire year but even if we do we franchise him then what he do he's gonna sit out another year so is he gonna sit out two years waiting on this other team and lose $40 million none of it makes sense we own this right and it's too early for you and anybody else to act like lamb has any leverage here you know who tried that and didn't really win anything that would be bell and in brown and the Pittsburgh Steelers said go ahead... Bing never made that money back yeah they eventually got good contracts but they never got the money back they lost and this time any money that they lose sitting out they can't be written off so right now starting today he's losing a lot of money in training camp bigger money in each game $1 million I don't think he's willing to do that because he knows they can franchise him next year... If they want to play hardball they can make lambs career very difficult to move on from without really taking a big hit and if his ego says he wants to lose that kind of money well then I would trade him but I would make sure we get every bit we could get for him and make other teams not wanna trade for him unless they give up big time draft picks..
 

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Yeah they told us all in and how is that going?

You think their agents were playing teams against each other?

Booker = 36 million
Beal = 40 million
Durant = 47 million

Harden = 35 million
George = 45 million
Leonard = 45 million

Holiday 36
KP 36
Tatum 32
Brown 31

Jaylen Brown will jump to 49 million next year and 2 years from now make 61 million dollars lol.
Did you miss the “3 highest paid ever” part of my posts?

That would be an NBA team having the highest paid guard, forward, and center ever.
 

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Have you seen the NBA? Jokic gets paid 46 million a year. Bradley Beal gets 40 million…..Tobias Harris gets 39 million…..

They have their own issues lol.
yeah on 12 men rosters. point is max and pct allocations. bird rights etc.
 

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The reason why this won't work is because an owner is willing to get Lamb for an extra 2 million. They aren't going to miss out on a talent like Lamb for 2 million dollars. And then Jerry is left to ask himself would he want to lose Lamb because he doesn't want to pay him 35 but pay him 33?

The NFL can't keep making more and more money and expect the salary cap to not go up and then expect players salaries not to increase.
Right.. getting worked up over these big stars contracts is wasted effort.

What bothers me more is about 80% of the NFL is only paid about 1 million a year.

Average pay in NFL about 2+ million a year which includes these super paid stars.
 

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Is he gonna hold out for two years literally if he doesn't play this year he loses 17,000,000 and his ability to become a free agent I believe I believe you don't even have to franchise him next year if he sits out the entire year but even if we do we franchise him then what he do he's gonna sit out another year so is he gonna sit out two years waiting on this other team and lose $40 million none of it makes sense we own this right and it's too early for you and anybody else to act like lamb has any leverage here you know who tried that and didn't really win anything that would be bell and in brown and the Pittsburgh Steelers said go ahead... Bing never made that money back yeah they eventually got good contracts but they never got the money back they lost and this time any money that they lose sitting out they can't be written off so right now starting today he's losing a lot of money in training camp bigger money in each game $1 million I don't think he's willing to do that because he knows they can franchise him next year... If they want to play hardball they can make lambs career very difficult to move on from without really taking a big hit and if his ego says he wants to lose that kind of money well then I would trade him but I would make sure we get every bit we could get for him and make other teams not wanna trade for him unless they give up big time draft picks..
Keep in mind, however Jerry Jones handles negotiations with CeeDee Lamb, every agent, every NFL player, and every potential NFL player will be aware. The perception, just the perception, that the Cowboys are not willing to pay star players compensation commensurate with what agents and players believe should be paid, and other owners are paying, will hurt the Cowboys’ ability to attract star players now and in the future. Owners, when all is said and done, only pay the players what one owner is willing to pay a player. Lamb can certainly be held captive through the 2026 season if that’s what Jerry Jones wants to do. Would you rather the Cowboys players be volunteers or prisoners? AJ Brown participated in “voluntary” OTAs. See how it works?
 

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These stars are the franchises leading actors . The rest of the supporting cast is grossly underpaid on minimum and rookie contracts.

Can’t blame players for wanting to get paid after Rookie deal.
 

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Really? Did Martin take a pay cut or team friendly deal? Had dak done a team friendly deal? Is Lamb going to do a team friendly deal?
The Cowboys seem to overpay good to average players and low ball their stars. But as Stephen says we our open for business.
 

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Do the NBA model.

Have max contracts that require players to reach prerequisites to qualify.

Or figure out a max percentage of cap allotted to each position and you can’t pay a player more than that predetermined amount of cap space for their position.

The “next man up” model has got to stop.

I like this idea.
 

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Did you miss the “3 highest paid ever” part of my posts?

That would be an NBA team having the highest paid guard, forward, and center ever.
So you think if Lamb signs now and Dak signs now…and Micah signs next offseason they will still be the highest paid ever? AJ Brown was the highest paid ever for a month lol.
 

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The reason why this won't work is because an owner is willing to get Lamb for an extra 2 million. They aren't going to miss out on a talent like Lamb for 2 million dollars. And then Jerry is left to ask himself would he want to lose Lamb because he doesn't want to pay him 35 but pay him 33?

The NFL can't keep making more and more money and expect the salary cap to not go up and then expect players salaries not to increase.
right that only happens in the real economy..lol.. but yeah unless they start to collude in plain sight there is no way this happens.
 

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So you think if Lamb signs now and Dak signs now…and Micah signs next offseason they will still be the highest paid ever? AJ Brown was the highest paid ever for a month lol.
The highest paid guard, forward, and center AT THE TIME OF THEIR SIGNING I should’ve said. No NBA has ever had to do that.

Why’s everything have to be dumbed down for you?
 
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