Why lack of Cowboy fans in Cowboys media?

[guag]

4. Bryan Broaddus - he has SB ring with Packers as scout.

Just curious, do scouts and other non-player & coach staff actually get SB rings? I guess I just assumed it was players, coaches, and management that got actual physical rings, but does everyone in the organization get one?

Also +1 on the addition of Nate, I feel like he's one of the few (if only) people on the Cowboys shows that is passionate about the team.

 

[guag]

Which gives me an idea. Why not have weekly podcast from few members of this message board.

@xwalker ?? I'd listen to that.

 

[dallasdave]

Just curious, do scouts and other non-player & coach staff actually get SB rings? I guess I just assumed it was players, coaches, and management that got actual physical rings, but does everyone in the organization get one?

Also +1 on the addition of Nate, I feel like he's one of the few (if only) people on the Cowboys shows that is passionate about the team.

That's a good question ???????????????

 

[Wood]

Just curious, do scouts and other non-player & coach staff actually get SB rings? I guess I just assumed it was players, coaches, and management that got actual physical rings, but does everyone in the organization get one?

Also +1 on the addition of Nate, I feel like he's one of the few (if only) people on the Cowboys shows that is passionate about the team.

NFL pays for about 150 superbowl rings to winning team. That means whole lot of people associated with team get rings. Not all rings are of equal value. The players and coaching staff get premium rings.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

None of them top the preseason guy on CBS. Dude was drowning in kool-aid.

 

[JDSmith]

We have a plethora of chicks on here who are hard core Cowboys fans, we should start a grass roots movement to get some of them on the shows instead of the non-fans they have on now.

Or they could start their own all woman Cowboys podcast and call it "Talkin' Boys with the Girls" or something like that.

 

[jazzcat22]

Just curious, do scouts and other non-player & coach staff actually get SB rings? I guess I just assumed it was players, coaches, and management that got actual physical rings, but does everyone in the organization get one?

Also +1 on the addition of Nate, I feel like he's one of the few (if only) people on the Cowboys shows that is passionate about the team.

Everyone gets a ring. Or most anyway, people in the offices even.
I worked with a lady that her fiancé worked in the main office, was actually high up in the offices.
He got 3 SB rings from the 90's. She has one of them, keeps it on a safety deposit box at a bank around the corner of my house. She brought It in one day so I could see it.
Unfortunately he was killed in an accident before their wedding. Motorcycle. She also had another finance killed in a train wreck. Dang, bad luck.

She was allowed to keep the 1992 SB ring by his family. They kept the other 2 rings.
She showed me a lot of photos from parties at Jerry's house that she attended.
She also dated Mickey Mantles son for a while.

 

[VACowboy]

I've always wondered about the contempt Cowboys beat reporters seem to have for the team, ALL THE TIME. I don't see that in any other market. Whether the team wins, loses or whatever, the Dallas media always has some stupid innocuous question to ask or something snide to say. They sensationalize more one-word quotes than any bunch of reporters and wriiters I've ever seen.

 

[Wood]

We have a plethora of chicks on here who are hard core Cowboys fans, we should start a grass roots movement to get some of them on the shows instead of the non-fans they have on now.

Or they could start their own all woman Cowboys podcast and call it "Talkin' Boys with the Girls" or something like that.

I agree. That why I pointed out Lana Berry. She is hysterical on twitter, huge texas sports fan (she was actually on cowboys show once during pre-season). We need more of her kind.

Also it pains me to add this person to list because I am big fan but Mike Fisher.....vikings fan! ugghh

 

[Philmonroe]

I don't agree at all. You can be a fan and be objective media journalist. Personally, I don't want Bears, Packers. Vikings fans telling me about the cowboys. I also think there is connection between the non-cowboy fan sports media in Dallas and lackluster fandom at home games.

Personally I'm not that caught up in it like,you where only life long cowboys Stan's can apply. That's just stupid to me as long as you know your stuff even and or can admit your wrong even if I don't agree with every opinion I'm good with it. I know Mickey really doesn't but older people like him definitely aren't they super stuck in their ways even more than the younger people are. The price is main thing about fandom at home games not anything else but if you wanna go all Bill Gates and pay for all the "true" fans to get in I'm sure they'll appreciate it.

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

They are the media. They're really supposed to be neutral.

 

[Danger]

I agree. That why I pointed out Lana Berry. She is hysterical on twitter, huge texas sports fan (she was actually on cowboys show once during pre-season). We need more of her kind.

Also it pains me to add this person to list because I am big fan but Mike Fisher.....vikings fan! ugghh

Fisher is a Vikings fan?

 

[guag]

Everyone gets a ring. Or most anyway, people in the offices even.
I worked with a lady that her fiancé worked in the main office, was actually high up in the offices.
He got 3 SB rings from the 90's. She has one of them, keeps it on a safety deposit box at a bank around the corner of my house. She brought It in one day so I could see it.
Unfortunately he was killed in an accident before their wedding. Motorcycle. She also had another finance killed in a train wreck. Dang, bad luck.

She was allowed to keep the 1992 SB ring by his family. They kept the other 2 rings.
She showed me a lot of photos from parties at Jerry's house that she attended.
She also dated Mickey Mantles son for a while.

Wow, I really feel for her. Terrible story. But that's interesting about the rings.

Actually, I should have known. Now that I remember, the father of my ex girlfriend worked as a manager for the Mets in some capacity and got a ring when they won the penant in 2000 (no, he's not Bobby Valentine lol) , don't think it was the same that the players get though.

 

[Nova]

and thats my point...what is the deal with media in Dallas? I had opportunity to travel country with my previous job and most of sports shows were guys who actually liked the team they were covering. Dallas media has to have largest collection of non-cowboy fans in entire country with no one a close second. I would go one step further....there are people on this board I would rather listen to on podcast than media hired by cowboys. Which gives me an idea. Why not have weekly podcast from few members of this message board.

Personally I don't mind fans of other teams running radio shows as long as their content is good. That said, Shan and Rj's content is sub-par, and overall not worthy of a market this large. I don't know how the fan hasn't upgraded that time slot yet, as they've cleaned house throughout the day to make an overall better product over the last couple of years.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Having a busy schedule when I tune in for podcast I am looking for cowboys talk only. I have noticed they have difficulty keeping conversation about cowboys. Currently living in philly area, their sport shows are razor focused on eagles, eagles, eagles. Very little banter.

A main reason cowboys shows seem so muddled is that most of media members might not even cowboy fans but rather are just opportunistic media hounds who found Dallas to be a spotlight media outlet. This would explain why they want to talk about other things because they don't see things like you and me.

Lets take look at their lineup:


1. Mickey Spagnola - seems like he has been in Dallas forever but was originally and maybe still a Green Bay packer fan. At times he seems more interested in talking about weather than Cowboys. He is guilty for good amount of banter on that show. Luckily with addition of Nate Newton he quickly gets the group to talking Cowboys football.


2. David Helman - from New Orleans. Admits he is not even cowboys fan but just an objective reporter. Obviously prefers college football (LSU) over NFL. Again, the cowboys can't find local guys who actually like the team while still being objective? Is this that hard to find?


3. Kelsey Charles - from midwest. Has little synergy with other members as a host. Gets very little reaction from fans on twitter. Has very little insight about players and clearly not a fan.


4. Bryan Broaddus - he has SB ring with Packers as scout. He even ran Eagles draft in 1998. I am big fan of his work ethic reviewing film and giving us the X & O's. Been in Dallas while but I couldn't tell you if he actually likes Cowboys. I suspect he is fan by now.


5. Nate Newton - SB ring with Cowboys. Like Broaddus gives us pure football talk. A Welcomed addition this year. Lives and breathes Cowboys. Finally.


6. Taylor Stern - she is new this year and improving. But she barely knew the players names few weeks ago. Your telling me there isn't one young female in Dallas/Fort Worth area who follows the cowboys and is also multimedia journalist?


7. Rob Phillips - He might be local guy. Went to college in Texas and then started working for Cowboys. We don’t get much from him on his background.


8. Nick Eatman - I believe he is Texas guy who actually likes the team.



There has to be a Lana Berry version for Cowboys out there to hire and replace this awkward mess posted above.

That's pathetic!! I had no idea. Good grief....everyone in New Orleans media are homers, even if they come from somewhere else they climb right on board the Saints bandwagon.

 

[jazzcat22]

Wow, I really feel for her. Terrible story. But that's interesting about the rings.

Actually, I should have known. Now that I remember, the father of my ex girlfriend worked as a manager for the Mets in some capacity and got a ring when they won the penant in 2000 (no, he's not Bobby Valentine lol) , don't think it was the same that the players get though.

Yes they are different from players rings.
I beleive the players get their name on them.
Others get a ring, but no name.

Same basic style though.

 

[Wood]

They are the media. They're really supposed to be neutral.

National guys are paid to be neutral. Fans expect the local sports media to at least mildly like the team or have some interest in them. If not you get mediocre programming like we are currently seeing with cowboys . I have traveled all over the country and your better fan bases (Pitts, Balt, NE, GB) have sports media who are absolutely not neutral. One thing is certain, in those cities I mentioned they can't talk enough about their team. In Dallas its a choir for them to keep the talk about cowboys.

 

[cowboyfan4lyfe]

Not as big of a deal as you are making it. The Cowboys dō not spend a lot on their on air talent as far as podcast. I do like Eagleton on The Break. He has a fan's passion cause he loves that side of the business. Mickey Spags is a company line puppet. But like I said earlier. Not a big buget for that department.

 

[HappyOnions]

At least we have this guy...

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

National guys are paid to be neutral. Fans expect the local sports media to at least mildly like the team or have some interest in them. If not you get mediocre programming like we are currently seeing with cowboys . I have traveled all over the country and your better fan bases (Pitts, Balt, NE, GB) have sports media who are absolutely not neutral. One thing is certain, in those cities I mentioned they can't talk enough about their team. In Dallas its a choir for them to keep the talk about cowboys.

You can't compare Dallas-Fort Worth reporters with reporters from Boston, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, or Green Bay. Those cities are all smaller than Austin, let alone Dallas. Local media in real cities like New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles are critical of their teams when they are bad and reasonably neutral when they are good.

As an aside, it's bad for journalism for the local media to be anything but neutral. The only major sports team from a large city I can think of that are actually super darlings are the Chicago Blackhawks. Chicago local media ate that stuff for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. It was borderline insufferable. More importantly, none of the local media had any reasonable coverage of the Patrick Kane scandal due to their love affair with the Blackhawks.

Moral of the story, this is Dallas, the biggest football team in the country. We have enough fans, we don't need the media to slant, as well.