Why Marion Barber wins out in preseason

I'm tired of all this BS about Jones being injury prone. Anyone who counts has said that they were both simply bad luck injuries, even Parcells said it.

Look at the two injuries.

One was a broken shoulder blade. I seriously doubt a broken bone for the first time means you're injury prone. I can see if you keep fracturing it in the same place (See Charles Rogers, Detriot Lions) you can be considered "injury prone." Otherwise, nuh uh.

Then the high ankle sprain. Players go on IR because of high ankle sprains. They're at times considered worse than a break because they're so unpredictable as far as healing time. Besides, did anyone SEE how his leg was contorted on the play that he got injured? That was a freak play, and anyone would have been hurt like that. It was almost as bad as seeing Carson Palmer's knee injury. This can happen to anyone. He is not inury prone.

The fact is that he FOUGHT BACK from these injuries for the good of the team, and came back before he was ready in the case of the ankle sprain. He's a warrior, not a weakling. So he's had bad luck, give the guy a break.

MB3 is a nice change-of-pace back, and he's solid. But that's what he is, solid. He's not a star, nor does he have the potential to be. MB3 seems like Emmitt without the strength, power, and stability that he had to be consistent. Julius has the talent to be a Barry Sanders, Gale Sayers, Tony Dorsett. TRUE talents. Julius can be a STAR. MB3 can be solid.

You want injury prone? See Jacob Rogers.

Julius being injury prone is just being used as a lazy excuse now. Shut up about it and let the kid play and show us what he's got.
 
MikeCowboy3189 said:
I'm tired of all this BS about Jones being injury prone. Anyone who counts has said that they were both simply bad luck injuries, even Parcells said it.

Look at the two injuries.

One was a broken shoulder blade. I seriously doubt a broken bone for the first time means you're injury prone. I can see if you keep fracturing it in the same place (See Charles Rogers, Detriot Lions) you can be considered "injury prone." Otherwise, nuh uh.

Then the high ankle sprain. Players go on IR because of high ankle sprains. They're at times considered worse than a break because they're so unpredictable as far as healing time. Besides, did anyone SEE how his leg was contorted on the play that he got injured? That was a freak play, and anyone would have been hurt like that. It was almost as bad as seeing Carson Palmer's knee injury. This can happen to anyone. He is not inury prone.

The fact is that he FOUGHT BACK from these injuries for the good of the team, and came back before he was ready in the case of the ankle sprain. He's a warrior, not a weakling. So he's had bad luck, give the guy a break.

MB3 is a nice change-of-pace back, and he's solid. But that's what he is, solid. He's not a star, nor does he have the potential to be. MB3 seems like Emmitt without the strength and solidness that he had to be consistent. Julius has the talent to be a Barry Sanders, Gale Sayers, Tony Dorsett. TRUE talents. Julius can be a STAR. MB3 can be solid.

You want injury prone? See Jacob Rogers.

Julius being injury prone is just being used as a lazy excuse now. Shut up about it and let the kid play and show us what he's got.
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JackMagist said:
Welcome to the board...It is really great that you understand and know how to use all of those HTML codes and stuff. But really we are somewhat informal here...you don't need to do it for every little post. Save it for when you want to make a point and it will go to better effect. Of course that is up to you :cool:
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Thanks for the welcome Jack.

I like Arlington, I used to live in Allen myself.

Anyhow,

I wasn't trying to be formal by using the HTML codes man, just different... :)

That's all..

Now if it's annoying that's a different matter, and I might consider changing my way for the benefit of the group

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Man that was broke backish...!

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Thank you for the advise though​
 
BrAinPaiNt said:
Let's end the confusion.

Barber will be the starter....once Julius goes down with another injury.:laugh1:
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That is funny, however, history show it is also true.......:lmao2:
 
As I recall when Roy hit Emmitt, didn't Emmitt have the same injury- broken shoulder blade?
 
In my opinion, we don't have a star RB capable of leading us to the Super Bowl the way Emmitt and Dorsett, Hill, and Thomas did.

And by the time we realize it and do something about it, we'll probably be looking for a QB again.

Teams do win without all star RBs, but having one has always been a Dallas trademark...JJ and Barber will never be stars in this league, imo.
 
Gee, Wayne, are you joining the permanently depressed and pessimistic club as well? NEVER is a strong statement that many times can come back and bite one on the rear.
 
Anyone who thinks that MBIII is anywhere NEAR the type of back that JuliusJones is, I want you to go back and look at the Seattle, Chicago, and New York games of 04 and the Carolina game of 05 and honestly ask yourself if Barber could muster up a performance that would even closely compare.

If you are COMPLETELY honest with yourself the answer is a resounding "NO". Look, Barber had a good agme against Arizona (ARIZONA, PEOPLE!) and one good drive against Kansas City. That's it! And, if not for a lucky bounce in Philly, he would have fumbled away that unlikely victory. Oh, and speaking of Philly, someone mentioned that Barber would keep drives alive that Jones would kill. Well in Philly, he got the ball three straight times, and guess what? The drive was dead and he fumbled the ball (luckily back to himself).

I want to see both of these guys succeed. No doubt about it. But, don't disillusion yourself into thinking that Barber is anything more than a complimentary back. Julius' best games nearly double the output of Barber's best offering (against a p*ss poor defense to boot).

SS
 
JJ nmay still have been recovering from injury, but I did not see him run over NOR away from...anybody. He seemed to consistantlybe taken down by the first man...wether it be in the backfield, at the line, or 4-6 yards downfield.



That's the stat he must improve on if he wants to start.

I'm no football expert, but I tell you what, excepting a couple balls on the carpet, Barber was much more fun to watch. He seemed quicker and able to get by a man or two.

And Tompson shows promise as well.

Witht the receiving additions, and just a LITTEL improvement on the line, all of our RBs need to step up and put some big numbers up.
 
Silver Bullet said:


Come on now...

MB III

6-0'

212 lbs


Cason

5-10

204 lbs



Aaaand..

Check this out


JJ

5-10

205 lbs


Sooooo...

Obviously that's not the issue here.
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Looking at height and weight is not an accurate way of comparing. It is the build, MBIII is built more like Terry Glenn then he is built like Emmitt Smith
 
MiStar said:
It seems pretty simple to me, Jones will kill the kind of drives that Barber can keep alive. Furthermore it's not Jones that must be acounted for on every play, but rather Barber. Obviously both must be accounted for when they get a hand off, but Barber must always be accounted for on passing plays since he will reliably pick up and stone the first man that comes free past the Offensive Line, but if you don't cover him when he slips out of the backfield, he will make your pay. Quite Frankly, Jones is neither a big deterent to blitzers nor is he reliable enough to scheme against when coming out of the backfield. And as long as you don't leave any gaping holes along the line of scrimmage, he's not much of a threat up the middle.

What is the knock on Barber? I just don't see any major holes in his game, like I do with Jones.
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That's pretty much how I feel. Barber isn't explosive, but he is more complete. I wouldn't consider Jones untouchable. He has not kicked the durability wrap and will fumble. He needs an entire season of achievement before he is able to put anyone's doubts to rest. And I believe that includes Coach Parcells.
 
I've seen Julius Jones show up and play in 8 games in his rookie year. Since then, I've only seen flashes of that player.

However, I do think he can, and will, contribute in a running back by committee situation.

That's what we'll see this year, people. Get your mind off of who the starter will be etc. All of them will start. LOL
 
JJ has more ability and natural talent with more ability to break a big one....
I do love Barber though too. JJ will start as long as healthy.

The one thing that does bother me though is Barber catches the ball so naturally, easily, and fluently but its a tough thing for JJ. Seems like everytime we threw to JJ, it took him an extra split-second to secure the catch before he could run, and that made a big difference between a decent gain and a great gain.
 
Barber was the Better Back in college so why is it so hard to see that Barber couldn't be better in JJ in the Pros.......
 
Barber the better back in college? Really. Then why was he 3rd rd pick at best?
And JJ was picked in the early 2nd rd. Fantasy again.
 
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