Why Mike McCarthy Must Not Be Back Next Year

[RonWashington]

Dead. Coach. Walking. He won't be back. Jerry's already given him the kiss of death.

Now if this team finds a way to make the playoffs, then JJ MAY reconsider...and even then, I'm not sure.

So Mike only needs to run the table with Cooper Rush, and then he could present a compelling argument. Have at it, Mike, shock the world!

Run the table ?

 

[RonWashington]

their ypc are nearly identical but with ferg having twice the volume. if you look at it at a per game basis, fergs are consistently higher but with a dramatically lower game pulling his numbers down, while schoons are cosistently lower with a dramatically higher game pulling him up. not sure i buy schoon is getting downfield while ferg is catching dumpoffs exclusively

Schoon averaging 11.4 per catch
Ferguson averaging 8.5 per catch

11.4 = a first down normally and is 3 over Fergs avg .

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Let me say these two points first:

1. Mike McCarthy is a good football coach. (The best we’ve had since Parcells)
2. Mike McCarthy’s time in Dallas needs to end.

Somehow for apparently stingy financial reasons Jerry decided to bring Big Mac back on the final year of his contract despite Mac being the HC of the worst playoff loss in Cowboys history last January. Most HCs never recover from that kind of mental mountain to climb.

And just to make it worse for all involved, McCarthy and his whole staff are all on final years of their contracts, leaving the staff twisting in the wind in front of the players. And on top of that JJ decides to let the off-season be an exercise in how NOT to do things for a new season, setting up the exact predictable disaster we’ve witnessed in 2024.

So after two wins against less than stellar opponents, the talk is now drifting to the idea of keeping Big Mac? Here are the reasons (in no particular order) why that’s a very bad idea:

• McCarthy has had 5 full seasons to do something in the playoffs and has one wild card win to show for it. That isn’t going to get better next year. Year 6 will have no magic. Most modern era coaches who have deep playoff runs do it in the first 3-5 years, not after.
• Keeping Big Mac keeps a bad culture intact. This culture needs a reset. Despite being a good coach overall, his teams are penalty machines and never seem to have the discipline to pay attention to details. We need a coach with some kahones that can impact this culture despite the Jones illness that has crippled this team.
• McCarthy has an outdated offense. Yeah I know this year’s offense was almost weaponless. But Mac’s “west coast” style offense is a throwback to the past as opposed to what we see from the better teams. This team needs a new offensive facelift.
• Keeping McCarthy sends the wrong message. I know there’s no real accountability in this organization as long as Jerry and Giggles skate for their sins, but winking at the HC who has presided over a nearly year long home winless streak and the most embarrassing playoff loss in team history must be cleansed not renewed.

In closing, I feel bad for Big Mac. It’s extremely hard to function like even a semi-normal head coach with this ego-crazed owner. But if we’re stuck with Jerry, we cannot also be stuck with McCarthy. It will make it worse not better.

What’s the definition of insanity?

 

[Proof]

Schoon averaging 11.4 per catch
Ferguson averaging 8.5 per catch

11.4 = a first down normally and is 3 over Fergs avg .

would you mind sharing where you got those numbers? ESPN has schoon at 9.1 this season and Ferg at 8.6 this season.

Schoon at 8.8 for his career and Ferg at 9.8 for his career.

 

[RonWashington]

would you mind sharing where you got those numbers? ESPN has schoon at 9.1 this season and Ferg at 8.6 this season.

Schoon at 8.8 for his career and Ferg at 9.8 for his career.

dallascowboys.com

Patrick Walker is the author and the article
Talks about Schoon and Mazi Smith

 

[nightrain]

Yea but not a roster good enough to get past SF a couple years and arguably not good enough to get past GB, Det and or definitely SF last year.

A good roster don’t necessarily equate to best roster or enough to advance further.

Im not sure why we expect our HC to over achieve with our roster?

You don't think the Lions and Packers overachieved last season? What about Tomlin in Pitt or what Sean Payton is doing in Denver with a rookie QB? The Cowboys should have been able to beat the 49ers at home in the playoffs without Warner or Bosa on the field for a good stretch of the 2nd half.

Coaching matters and McCarthy's many years of experience are more of an anchor than a sail. I was a solid McCarthy backer until the debacle against the Packers last January.

 

[Bullflop]

As much as I hate to admit it, I'm at a point where I wouldn't mind seeing a total rebuild of this team, just to curb the monotony.
Rather than to tolerate the pain and anguish of seeing the same old problems reappear each year, maybe it'd be entertaining?

 

[Bigrandrn]

I just don’t trust the culture…..the way they played on the playoffs, undisciplined and unprepared and unmotivated….giving up in the second quarter, this team can’t win with that crap. Not enough alpha dogs on the roster so we need more of an attitude from the coach…like Jimmy brought.

 

[kskboys]

Schoon averaging 11.4 per catch
Ferguson averaging 8.5 per catch

11.4 = a first down normally and is 3 over Fergs avg .

Schoon is averaging 9.1 per catch. Basically the same.

 

[kskboys]

dallascowboys.com

Patrick Walker is the author and the article
Talks about Schoon and Mazi Smith

I think ol' Pat is a bad source!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ArtClink]

Let me say these two points first:

1. Mike McCarthy is a good football coach. (The best we’ve had since Parcells)
2. Mike McCarthy’s time in Dallas needs to end.

Somehow for apparently stingy financial reasons Jerry decided to bring Big Mac back on the final year of his contract despite Mac being the HC of the worst playoff loss in Cowboys history last January. Most HCs never recover from that kind of mental mountain to climb.

And just to make it worse for all involved, McCarthy and his whole staff are all on final years of their contracts, leaving the staff twisting in the wind in front of the players. And on top of that JJ decides to let the off-season be an exercise in how NOT to do things for a new season, setting up the exact predictable disaster we’ve witnessed in 2024.

So after two wins against less than stellar opponents, the talk is now drifting to the idea of keeping Big Mac? Here are the reasons (in no particular order) why that’s a very bad idea:

• McCarthy has had 5 full seasons to do something in the playoffs and has one wild card win to show for it. That isn’t going to get better next year. Year 6 will have no magic. Most modern era coaches who have deep playoff runs do it in the first 3-5 years, not after.
• Keeping Big Mac keeps a bad culture intact. This culture needs a reset. Despite being a good coach overall, his teams are penalty machines and never seem to have the discipline to pay attention to details. We need a coach with some kahones that can impact this culture despite the Jones illness that has crippled this team.
• McCarthy has an outdated offense. Yeah I know this year’s offense was almost weaponless. But Mac’s “west coast” style offense is a throwback to the past as opposed to what we see from the better teams. This team needs a new offensive facelift.
• Keeping McCarthy sends the wrong message. I know there’s no real accountability in this organization as long as Jerry and Giggles skate for their sins, but winking at the HC who has presided over a nearly year long home winless streak and the most embarrassing playoff loss in team history must be cleansed not renewed.

In closing, I feel bad for Big Mac. It’s extremely hard to function like even a semi-normal head coach with this ego-crazed owner. But if we’re stuck with Jerry, we cannot also be stuck with McCarthy. It will make it worse not better.

At this point, as long as Jerry still has a functioning brain he will constantly undercut the hc and undermine his authority. As you said, Big Mac performed miracles here with three straight 12 win seasons all done while under Jerry’s thumb. My opinion is the next Dallas head coach literally won’t make any difference if you wanna see real playoff success.

 

[RonWashington]

I think ol' Pat is a bad source!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why’s that ?

 

[RD21]

You could be right Pap. Jerry hates to have to hire a HC. He risks hiring someone who doesn’t like the way he plays with his toys. At this point anyone believing Jerry wants win more than anything is just not paying attention.

But.... Jerry's, "All In"...

 

[Diehardblues]

You don't think the Lions and Packers overachieved last season? What about Tomlin in Pitt or what Sean Payton is doing in Denver with a rookie QB? The Cowboys should have been able to beat the 49ers at home in the playoffs without Warner or Bosa on the field for a good stretch of the 2nd half.

Coaching matters and McCarthy's many years of experience are more of an anchor than a sail. I was a solid McCarthy backer until the debacle against the Packers last January.

I suppose it’s all in personal perspective because most felt SF wasn’t a good matchup for us at home that year.

And if fans had been paying closer attention I’d argue the Cowboys weren’t playing well towards end of season and Packers were.

I would agree that McCarthy isn’t at the same level of some of the other HC’s you mentioned . But who thinks our dysfunctional ownership is going to attract HC’s like that.

Unfortunately coaching isn’t going to be a strength our ownership will allow. So we are going to need the greatest talent to overcome teams who can be coached up.

And we haven’t had the greatest defenses or QB’s to accomplish that. If fans are expecting our organization to coach our talent up they are going to continue to be disappointed.

 

[Diehardblues]

At this point, as long as Jerry still has a functioning brain he will constantly undercut the hc and undermine his authority. As you said, Big Mac performed miracles here with three straight 12 win seasons all done while under Jerry’s thumb. My opinion is the next Dallas head coach literally won’t make any difference if you wanna see real playoff success.

Yea, as long as our dysfunctional ownership undermines our coaching staff and mismanages personnel it’s going to be very difficult to have more success. Especially if we don’t have an Elite QB and or defense.

I’d argue the only way for our organization to have more success is have the greatest talent and team in the league like in 1995.

Remember even in 1994 with arguably best team and talent we came up short.

 

[Diehardblues]

As long as we have our current dysfunctional ownership fans need to lower the bar.

We are no longer a championship caliber franchise. Only in name from our history.

And without an Elite QB and or defenses to overcome our culture and toxic atmosphere this just isn’t a recipe for more success.

 

[ArtClink]

Yea, as long as our dysfunctional ownership undermines our coaching staff and mismanages personnel it’s going to be very difficult to have more success. Especially if we don’t have an Elite QB and or defense.

I’d argue the only way for our organization to have more success is have the greatest talent and team in the league like in 1995.

Remember even in 1994 with arguably best team and talent we came up short.

I don't think we could win a div playoff game with a top QB and a top defense because of all the damage Jerry does to this team. We have the worst culture in the NFL with a head coach who lacks the ability to hire and fire. When we get a head coach who has the last word in all football matters (assuming Jerry lives to be 100), then we will have a chance at a deep playoff run. But it's a million to one Jerry will give any power to a head coach and he has a history of only hiring soft head coaches like Wade, Dave "El" Campo, Jason Garrett, etc) because he won't hire a strong head coach because it makes him uncomfortable. It's about Jerry's comfort and $$$, not winning when it matters.

 

[Beast_from_East]

The ending of the season will tell.

If somehow MM wins in Philly, even if they don't make the playoffs, like some here have said, Jerry will claim injuries derailed a great team, and I can hear Jerry now - "No coach could have done better than Mike with all the players we had hurt".

This…..anybody that wants Fat Mike gone better root for loses.

If the Boyz finish strong and get to 8-9 wins, Mikey will get a new extension.

 

[Beast_from_East]

for me personally its so difficult to rationalize why getting rid of MM would be a good move.

What coach can get us over the hump? something that the last 5 coaches have not been able to do.

And what is our standard here? what scale are we grading MM on?
If we are using playoff wins/super bowl appearances then he's obviously failed. But we must note that hes been no worse than Jason Garret, Wade Phillips, Tuna, Dave Campo, Chan Gailey and Barry Switzer (i include Barry because without Jimmys players, no way he wins in the playoffs).

If we use regular season wins then MM is at the top:
Mike McCarthy 42-25 (62%)
Jason Garrett 59-48 (55%)
Wade Philipps 34-22 (60%)
Bill Parcells 34-32 (52%)
Dave Campo 15-33 (31%)
Chan Gailey 18-14 (56%)
Barry Switzer 40-24 (63%)
I wouldn't be opposed to someone like Bill Belicheck, to see if he can bring some discipline.

Though i'm not a big fan of MM, can another coach really do better with this current team and current owner?

Good points.

The folks wanting Fat Mike gone better be careful, the next HC could be a lot worse than him.

Think Zimmer or Kellen Moore.

I would rather just keep MM myself if these scrubs are seriously being considered.

 

[Proof]

dallascowboys.com

Patrick Walker is the author and the article
Talks about Schoon and Mazi Smith

thanks. yeah just read it, and that 11.4 number is just over the past two weeks. so just way too small of a sample size. Ferg clears in almost every way. It is nice to see him getting some production though and hopefully continues to get more opportunities.