why not use newman as a kick returner?

[Hostile]

There isn't a position on Special teams that isn't at risk for injury every play. I really don't think any one is riskier than another. If you are running full blast up the middle of the field trying to get to the Punt Returner and never see the hit from the side that sends you flying you are going to feel it. The combination of full speed and contact equals pain. Trust me on that.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The return men are no more likely to sustain injury as anyone else on the unit

What?

Hello....Hello...is this thing on?

You forgot to say "McFly."

 

[Doomsday101]

And who was our excellent return man back then? Kevin Williams. You realize when Kevin Williams went down with injury, Clayton Holmes filled in ... not Kevin Smith. Was Clayton Holmes a terrific return man, or was Jimmy just scared to risk Kevin Smith to injury?

Holmes had 9 returns, the 2 main return men were Kelvin Martin and Kevin Williams both were very good return man. My point is Jimmy still put front line players on special team, because of the importance of it.

 

[Concord]

Why stars (or big contracts) don't play on special teams...........
Joey Galloway blowing out his knee in his first game as a Cowboy. Not to mention it was special teams at the very end of a blowout to the Eagles. I knew then that trade was bad, but had no idea how bad.

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Wasn't Galloway hurt on a meaningless running or passing play at the end of the game when he was grabed and thrown out of bounds?

But I don't think it was a specials team play.

Anyone?

 

[Doomsday101]

Wasn't Galloway hurt on a meaningless running or passing play at the end of the game when he was grabed and thrown out of bounds?

But I don't think it was a specials team play.

Anyone?

It was a deep out pattern and your right it was not on special teams

 

[Concord]

It was a deep out pattern and your right it was not on special teams

Thank You.

 

[RoysAHitta]

i'm sorry but after watching newman for two years now and researching cb ratings.. the guy just isn't that spectactular on the field. we can keep making excuse after excuse and telling ourselves hes an all pro. but i've seen plenty of lists wheres hes not even rated a top 20 cb. it wouldnt be like we were losing a deion or kevin smith at all, newman isn't on there level. the guys almost 30 and hes only played 2 years in the league, its time for this guy to shut people up and the return game might be the way to do it.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

regardless of drafting him so high, what have we got to lose by using him as a return man? hes fast and has some experience in the return game in college. his value right now really isn't that high because of mediocre cb play, but if he established himself as a great return man he could add lots of value to himself. i just dont see anyone on our roster that looks that appealing as a return man besides him.. i say this is his year to show us why we drafted him so early.

Bill said last summer T-New isn't the body type he likes as a return specialist - too lose jointed and gangly, not low enough to the ground (not height-wise as much as densely muscled, sturdy). A player can be short (Joey Galloway, Dedric Ward, Dave Meggett), or bigger (Leon Johnson) but he has to have that basic body type for Bill to feel comfy with him returning punts or kickoffs.

That body type, btw is what, imo, brought Woody Dantzler back for one more shot.

Listen to the comments Tuna makes re player's bodies..the race horse fanatic he is comes out in his evaluations, tho his most notable comparison was on receivers -"giraffes" vs "gazelles" - not a pony metaphor.

 

[Alexander]

i'm sorry but after watching newman for two years now and researching cb ratings.. the guy just isn't that spectactular on the field. we can keep making excuse after excuse and telling ourselves hes an all pro. but i've seen plenty of lists wheres hes not even rated a top 20 cb. it wouldnt be like we were losing a deion or kevin smith at all, newman isn't on there level. the guys almost 30 and hes only played 2 years in the league, its time for this guy to shut people up and the return game might be the way to do it.

Newman is an above average cornerback and should be an All Pro soon, but you do have a point. I think we Dallas fans overrate him and this is only after a year of quality football and a very average one.

I would like to see him provide a spark on special teams. I keep waiting for the athlete that was once compared to Deion Sanders as a returner to be on display.

I just get the suspicion that he really was overrated as a return man, and Coach Parcells realizes that the potential rewards are not significant enough to outweigh his usefulness as a cornerback. If he was as good as Sanders, he would be back there. Deion was all the time. If they are that good, you don't sit them.

 

[ravidubey]

i'm sorry but after watching newman for two years now and researching cb ratings.. the guy just isn't that spectactular on the field. we can keep making excuse after excuse and telling ourselves hes an all pro. but i've seen plenty of lists wheres hes not even rated a top 20 cb. it wouldnt be like we were losing a deion or kevin smith at all, newman isn't on there level. the guys almost 30 and hes only played 2 years in the league, its time for this guy to shut people up and the return game might be the way to do it.

Cornerback ratings are very subjective. It's clear Terence Newman is still learning his craft and it's also clear that he has the raw speed and talent to compete. Now he has to put it all together, and I'd prefer he do that on defense and not be distracted by having to return kicks on ST's.

 

[Alexander]

Listen to the comments Tuna makes re player's bodies..the race horse fanatic he is comes out in his evaluations, tho his most notable comparison was on receivers -"giraffes" vs "gazelles" - not a pony metaphor.

:laugh2:

I wonder if he checks out their teeth also.

Look below, he appears to be doing that to Bledsoe.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

:laugh2:

I wonder if he checks out their teeth also.

Look below, he appears to be doing that to Bledsoe.

Yeah, that's EXACTLY what that photo makes me think of.

 

[WoodysGirl]

i'm sorry but after watching newman for two years now and researching cb ratings.. the guy just isn't that spectactular on the field. we can keep making excuse after excuse and telling ourselves hes an all pro. but i've seen plenty of lists wheres hes not even rated a top 20 cb. it wouldnt be like we were losing a deion or kevin smith at all, newman isn't on there level. the guys almost 30 and hes only played 2 years in the league, its time for this guy to shut people up and the return game might be the way to do it.

Personally I agree with whoever posted that we've invested too much in the guy to put him on ST. And even tho Jimmy Johnson would play starters on ST, look at the depth those teams had. You had starters backing up starters. We don't have that luxury now, even with the Glenn and Henry signing.

Whether you agree with his performance or not from last year, as a top 5 pick, I'm willing to give him the time necessary to let him put it all together. And it's not like other CBs in the league weren't playing badly last year. All of them had to adjust to the new point of emphasis. I think Newman will turn it around and the D, as a whole will bounce back. Maybe not to #1 status, but it won't look like the local h.s. squad either and having Donovan running around like he has til eternity to throw.

 

[Alexander]

Personally I agree with whoever posted that we've invested too much in the guy to put him on ST.

We invested millions in Deion. He was our franchise player.

And he played special teams and was a weapon.

Maybe it is just that Newman just isn't that good of a returner.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

even with the Glenn and Henry signing.

Aaron Glenn, yeah, there is yet another ex-returner of Bill's with that body type.

 

[Alexander]

Aaron Glenn, yeah, there is yet another ex-returner of Bill's with that body type.

Now that's a great point.

If Coach Parcells trusted someone like Dedric Ward, he should consider Aaron.

Hopefully that is a fallback option.

Which reminds me, who is really our primary punt returner right now?

Frazier? Crayton? Not Zuriel Smith, please no.

 

[WoodysGirl]

We invested millions in Deion. He was our franchise player.

And he played special teams and was a weapon.

Maybe it is just that Newman just isn't that good of a returner.

Disagree that Deion was our franchise player, but I get the point. We're also playing in a different era now. Stakes are higher and we don't have the depth or the talent across the board to lose a starting CB.

You could be right about Newman not being that good of a returner. Matter of fact I hope you are. I'd rather he focus on manning his CB spot than playing ST.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

i'm sorry but after watching newman for two years now and researching cb ratings.. the guy just isn't that spectactular on the field. we can keep making excuse after excuse and telling ourselves hes an all pro. but i've seen plenty of lists wheres hes not even rated a top 20 cb. it wouldnt be like we were losing a deion or kevin smith at all, newman isn't on there level. the guys almost 30 and hes only played 2 years in the league, its time for this guy to shut people up and the return game might be the way to do it.

What ratings are these you've researched?

And no offense, but every time you see someone who is 26 being described as "almost 30" -- with the obvious implication that 30 is some advanced, decrepit age deserving of the rest home -- you know you're dealing with a very young person. Not that there is anything wrong with that, of course.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Aaron Glenn, yeah, there is yet another ex-returner of Bill's with that body type.

Yep, and I think read he was practicing punt returns or something during the minicamp. They'll prolly look at that more in TC to see if he still has some gas in the tank.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Jimmy Johnson never once used a starter at a premium position to return kicks. Not once. And he had a great punt returner in Kevin Smith ... never used him.

Feel free to continue to ignore, it doesn't make it any less of the truth.