Why onside kick with 3:24 left?

[Texasfootball21]

That onside kick with 3:24 made no football sense whatsoever!
The team was getting great momentum cutting the lead to 3.
With over 3 minutes left, one timeout and the 2 minute warning, there was no need for that desperate/stupid move.
The Defense was doing pretty decent at that point and I thought they had a good chance of stopping them again, maybe, and I was also confident in Baker choking under pressure.
But instead, we do the dumbest thing possible to prevent us from having any chance.

Another poor coaching decision. Kick the dang ball off for a touchback and give your team a chance to get the ball back with time on the clock!

 

[Aviano90]

But why not do a regular kick? Make them march 80 yards for the TD. This team is so beyond stupid it's starting to hurt.

I think they tried to do something similar as the kickoff before when the returner let the ball go but it trickled into the end zone, so this time tried to kick it a little softer to allow to allow us an opportunity to recover the ball if the returner hemmed and hawed like the did before. He just did a poor job of it. That's my guess.

 

[CoachD]

That onside kick with 3:24 made no football sense whatsoever!
The team was getting great momentum cutting the lead to 3.
With over 3 minutes left, one timeout and the 2 minute warning, there was no need for that desperate/stupid move.
The Defense was doing pretty decent at that point and I thought they had a good chance of stopping them again, maybe, and I was also confident in Baker choking under pressure.
But instead, we do the dumbest thing possible to prevent us from having any chance.

That was already apart of the good, the bad, the ugly and the extremely embarrassing.

 

[OmerV]

i dont care anymore...

The fact you are here and commenting suggests otherwise.

 

[bigE79]

That onside kick with 3:24 made no football sense whatsoever!
The team was getting great momentum cutting the lead to 3.
With over 3 minutes left, one timeout and the 2 minute warning, there was no need for that desperate/stupid move.
The Defense was doing pretty decent at that point and I thought they had a good chance of stopping them again, maybe, and I was also confident in Baker choking under pressure.
But instead, we do the dumbest thing possible to prevent us from having any chance.

I said it in the game thread and I'll say it now... stupid stupid stupid!!!

 

[OmerV]

OBJ would have scored if that kick was downed at the one yard line

Cant play with eight capable players on defense and that's what they are trying to do.

And that's being nice.

Circumstances would not have been the same, and that play call may well not have been made, and even if it were, who knows how it would have played out.

 

[lostar2009]

I think they tried to do something similar as the kickoff before when the returner let the ball go but it trickled into the end zone, so this time tried to kick it a little softer to allow to allow us an opportunity to recover the ball if the returner hemmed and hawed like the did before. He just did a poor job of it. That's my guess.

In my opinion we had no need to gamble. Kick the ball right and make them march. Even it the Browns scored a FG we still had a chance.

 

[Brooksey]

It wasn't an onside kick. I think it was a failed pooch kick that was right to a player and returned.

No need to pooch kick it. Kick it out of the end zone!

 

[Aviano90]

In my opinion we had no need to gamble. Kick the ball right and make them march. Even it the Browns scored a FG we still had a chance.

I don’t disagree. Not defending the call, just guessing what they were thinking. I know it wasn’t an onside kick though.

 

[CWR]

Browns scored 50 pts

"why doesn't Dallas just kick off and give the ball back to Cleveland??"

Hahahaha

Unbelievable

Well we had to stop them to cut it to 3 didn't we? Maybe, just maybe we had some momentum until that crap play.

 

[gjkoeppen]

We are stuck in a situation where we like it or not, we still have to play defense. I would have kicked it deep, and go all out on a run blitz.

Who would care if they scored or not? At least try something different to stop the bleeding.

Not sure who you mean, the browns or Cowboys with your "Who would care if they scored or not?" but it really doesn't matter because it appears that everything would be OK as long as the Cowboys do what you want. Second that defense you talked about showed on just the first play after the botched pooch kick just what would happen when it let OBJ run 50 yards untouched for a TD. The Cowboys did try something different with that pooch kick but you didn't like that.
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[ConstantReboot]

Not sure who you mean, the browns or Cowboys with your "Who would care if they scored or not?" but it really doesn't matter because it appears that everything would be OK as long as the Cowboys do what you want. Second that defense you talked about showed on just the first play after the botched pooch kick just what would happen when it let OBJ run 50 yards untouched for a TD. The Cowboys did try something different with that pooch kick but you didn't like that.
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Exactly what I said. We are stuck in a bad situation whether we like it or not.

That's why I mentioned we should have tried something different. Like actually run blitzing, etc. If they scored, they were going to score anyways. Why prolong the agony. The defense wasn't going to stop them one way or another.

 

[Adreme]

That onside kick with 3:24 made no football sense whatsoever!
The team was getting great momentum cutting the lead to 3.
With over 3 minutes left, one timeout and the 2 minute warning, there was no need for that desperate/stupid move.
The Defense was doing pretty decent at that point and I thought they had a good chance of stopping them again, maybe, and I was also confident in Baker choking under pressure.
But instead, we do the dumbest thing possible to prevent us from having any chance.

I would like to remind you at this time that the defense had given up 41 points. Saying played well is a fundamental insult to that word once you have given up 41 points and trusting them when they have given up 41 poinst (and I believe about 450 yards so far) seems like a very bad gamble.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Exactly what I said. We are stuck in a bad situation whether we like it or not.

That's why I mentioned we should have tried something different. Like actually run blitzing, etc. If they scored, they were going to score anyways. Why prolong the agony. The defense wasn't going to stop them one way or another.

All you want is for the Cowboys to do what you want. If the Cowboys did run blitzes and the browns got to the outside and broke off a long run like say 50 yards you would have said that the defense should have playing their gaps and not run blitzing.
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[buybuydandavis]

That onside kick with 3:24 made no football sense whatsoever!
The team was getting great momentum cutting the lead to 3.
With over 3 minutes left, one timeout and the 2 minute warning, there was no need for that desperate/stupid move.
The Defense was doing pretty decent at that point and I thought they had a good chance of stopping them again, maybe, and I was also confident in Baker choking under pressure.
But instead, we do the dumbest thing possible to prevent us from having any chance.

Ordinarily, you give your defense a chance to stop them.

But at that point they had 250 yards rushing. Overwhelmingly likely they just run us over to run out the clock. I would have gone with a deeper pooch kick, like the previous play, so we didn't give up so much field position. And it almost worked the previous time.

And note that we *didn't* stop them. Not the tiniest bit. One play, 50 yards. Most of the defense looked horrible and gassed on that play. I don't see that defense stopping anything.

We were behind with time running out. The defense was gassed and getting rolled. Sometimes there are no great options.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Dumb decision. I do think we would have won if we just kicked it off into the endzone because we had all of the momentum there. /QUOTE]

The magic of momentum. The defense makes one stop, and all of a sudden they've got the advantage over a team that had run them over all day.

I don't think so. Most of the defense had *nothing* on the next play. You can blame that on a change in momentum because of the kick. Momentum magic strikes again! But I'm not buying it.

 

[thechosen1n2]

That onside kick with 3:24 made no football sense whatsoever!
The team was getting great momentum cutting the lead to 3.
With over 3 minutes left, one timeout and the 2 minute warning, there was no need for that desperate/stupid move.
The Defense was doing pretty decent at that point and I thought they had a good chance of stopping them again, maybe, and I was also confident in Baker choking under pressure.
But instead, we do the dumbest thing possible to prevent us from having any chance.

Kick it Deep. If you stop them, there not already in FG range....

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

It was a dumb decision, and the execution was horrible.

Maybe the Cowboys defense stopping Cleveland is a low probability event.

But- recovering an onsides kick is an even LOWER probability event.

 

[lostar2009]

I don’t disagree. Not defending the call, just guessing what they were thinking. I know it wasn’t an onside kick though.

I don't know. But when i saw the ball laying flat on turf I knew it was a mistake.

 

[Havic]

I think the decision was fine considering our defense is a dumpster fire.