Why people continue to defend the Jones is mindnumbing to me

Sydla

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How they have handled the OT spot since last season ended is a case study in their ineptitude. Tyron Smith is a great LT, when healthy. He's never completely healthy. Banking on him to be healthy for a full season is always a risk. It should surprise zero people, including the two nitwits running the team, that Smith got hurt....... again.

They decided the other starting OT, Collins, was too much of a headache, making too much money to bring back. They had Steele in the wings and they thought he made Collins expendable. Only problem is that even with his flaws, Collins was easily one of your 2-3 best OTs on the roster. With, again, the other top OT being a complete injury risk every season. Nevertheless, they sent Collins packing.

So they had Smith and Steele. And then the depth chart was basically Ball, a guy who had never taken a NFL snap. They sat on their ***** in FA when there were decent OT options out there in FA. They threw a draft pick in the later rounds at an OT from North Dakota. Jerry and Stephen looked at each other and believed they were in fine shape at OT.

They weren't. Most fans have been saying this for two months. But Jerry and Stephen plowed ahead thinking everything was great. And then what was entirely predictable, Smith getting hurt, happened and what the Cowboys have right now is a turnstile in Ball and them forcing a kid with a shoulder injury from North Dakota to try to play through the pain and not damage his shoulder further.

And many yahoos on this board defended the front office on how they handled the OT spot. Geezus.

Oh and guess what? They are doing the same thing with the WR spot.
 

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is mindnumbing to me.

How they have handled the OT spot since last season ended is a case study in their ineptitude. Tyron Smith is a great LT, when healthy. He's never completely healthy. Banking on him to be healthy for a full season is always a risk. It should surprise zero people, including the two nitwits running the team, that Smith got hurt....... again.

They decided the other starting OT, Collins, was too much of a headache, making too much money to bring back. They had Steele in the wings and they thought he made Collins expendable. Only problem is that even with his flaws, Collins was easily one of your 2-3 best OTs on the roster. With, again, the other top OT being a complete injury risk every season. Nevertheless, they sent Collins packing.

So they had Smith and Steele. And then the depth chart was basically Ball, a guy who had never taken a NFL snap. They sat on their ***** in FA when there were decent OT options out there in FA. They threw a draft pick in the later rounds at an OT from North Dakota. Jerry and Stephen looked at each other and believed they were in fine shape at OT.

They weren't. Most fans have been saying this for two months. But Jerry and Stephen plowed ahead thinking everything was great. And then what was entirely predictable, Smith getting hurt, happened and what the Cowboys have right now is a turnstile in Ball and them forcing a kid with a shoulder injury from North Dakota to try to play through the pain and not damage his shoulder further.

And many yahoos on this board defended the front office on how they handled the OT spot. Geezus.

Oh and guess what? They are doing the same thing with the WR spot.


Other than family or whoever works for these two clowns, I can't see how anyone can defend them. There are literally hundreds of examples of how poor they are at running a football team. This one just being the latest with plenty more to come.
 

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I remember them chuckling years ago saying oh the fans "think" they're football people , but we "are" football people.
Yes Bad football people lol
 

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We have no other options lol. We cannot control anything that happens

So right. They own the business now and Jerry has grandchildren who will own this franchise for the next 50 years. Better move on to the Bengals if you don't like it.
 

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So right. They own the business now and Jerry has grandchildren who will own this franchise for the next 50 years. Better move on to the Bengals if you don't like it.


So we have to like the Jones family or move on? What? You do realize Jerry Jones is not the Dallas Cowboys? Yes he has the franchise hijacked at the moment and all we can hope for is someone within that family doesn't have a Texas sized ego and will let real football people run the show some day. I was Cowboys fan before Jerry and his family, I will be after him as well god willing.
 

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So we have to like the Jones family or move on? What? You do realize Jerry Jones is not the Dallas Cowboys? Yes he has the franchise hijacked at the moment and all we can hope for is someone within that family doesn't have a Texas sized ego and will let real football people run the show some day. I was Cowboys fan before Jerry and his family, I will be after him as well god willing.

Jerry doesn't run the day to day very much any longer. Stephen is the real power behind the throne and he's going to be head honcho into his late 70's at least. Some day will never come in Dallas. They have their own "Texas" way of doing things.
 

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With the exception of a few posters, who are defending him. Are you talking about Tyron's issue or something else?

The posters that were defending Jerry and Stephen and their "roster building" up until this point. Most fans could see OT was an issue. Jerry and Stephen, apparently, thought they were in fine shape at OT.

Why people put faith and trust in those two is peculiar. What we are facing now was entirely predictable. And it looks like Jerry and Stephen got caught with their pants around their ankles. Again.

And it could happen at WR too. If Lamb gets nicked up, they are screwed.
 

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Because what else would they use against my objective observations about this team other than my deep seething hatred of Booger?

And I don’t hate him, don’t give him that much space in my mind.

However, you come here, you have to handle the incessant chatter about the owner which does not happen on any other sports sites other than the Cowboys. Just look at the % of threads about him. Think he doesn’t smile seeing all of this attention and don’t think an ego driven narcissist like him doesn’t check out what’s being said about him here.
 

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Every team in the league has pro bowl level LTs just waiting in the wings for when these things happen.

The Jones' are to blame!!!!!

The rationale was...why bring in a washed up turnstyle, like they have done in recent years, instead of just going with young guys with upside?

I like the approach, now we will see if they are right.
 

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So we have to like the Jones family or move on? What? You do realize Jerry Jones is not the Dallas Cowboys? Yes he has the franchise hijacked at the moment and all we can hope for is someone within that family doesn't have a Texas sized ego and will let real football people run the show some day. I was Cowboys fan before Jerry and his family, I will be after him as well god willing.
Unless you got 8-10 billion lying around - we don't have to like them though!
 

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Every team in the league has pro bowl level LTs just waiting in the wings for when these things happen.

The Jones' are to blame!!!!!

The rationale was...why bring in a washed up turnstyle, like they have done in recent years, instead of just going with young guys with upside?

I like the approach, now we will see if they are right.

This is the best defense you can come up with? LOL.

No, teams don't have all pro level OTs in reserve. But most teams also don't have starting LTs that can't stay healthy for entire seasons. Smith getting hurt was utterly predictable. Most smart teams would have likely taken insurance out in this situation with a veteran OT that can play a little knowing Smith could get hurt at any point.

Not our cracker jack GMs. They thought Ball and Waletzko were all they needed. Don't include Tyler Smith. They never had any intention of him actually playing OT this year. Hence when when camp started they gave him all his snaps at LG. Plus, he's clearly not ready to play LT at this level at this time. He's too raw.

The Jones botched this thing. They just did. They had a great LT who hadn't finished a full season in 6 years and yet they acted like he'd play all 17 and they had no need for veteran help.
 

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I’m soon to be 52 years old, relatively good health (knock on wood), I have seen the last Cowboys SB win of my lifetime.

I truly believe that, mainly because dumb and dumber have no concept of roster building. Football isn’t even a priority for those 2 idiots.
 

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Every team in the league has pro bowl level LTs just waiting in the wings for when these things happen.

The Jones' are to blame!!!!!

The rationale was...why bring in a washed up turnstyle, like they have done in recent years, instead of just going with young guys with upside?

I like the approach, now we will see if they are right.

Tyron hasn't been healthy in years. When is the last time he completed a full season? At a position as important as left tackle, you develop a contingency plan. You look for his replacement way before the day he's close to retiring. The FO has created huge holes at spots like WR and on the O line by letting talent go and then doing nothing but expecting rookies to come in and fill the gap. Not a recipe for real success in the league.
 

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Wouldn't be surprised now if we give away a haul of draft picks to get an OL or risk Dak getting blasted back onto the injury bench
 

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Every team in the league has pro bowl level LTs just waiting in the wings for when these things happen.

The Jones' are to blame!!!!!

The rationale was...why bring in a washed up turnstyle, like they have done in recent years, instead of just going with young guys with upside?

I like the approach, now we will see if they are right.
You make reasonable points on the topic. Here and elsewhere.

They took a risk and lost. Not only did Tyron go down, but so did Waletzko, and Ball isn't really what they had hoped.

I'll judge them on what they do from here, because every in house option that I see weakens another OL spot, and they have said they don't like moving multiple players for one injury.

I'll fault them again for being a step behind. None of the fallback options at LT are really ready to play there.

This problem becomes a very, very real one when it snowballs into Prescott missing time by getting clobbered.....or the offense can't move the ball.

I'd say Grier ought to stay loose. Nooch also.
 
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